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  • Here’s a number greater than 2 but less than 14. Or was it 16? 11.

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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    mickeyrat said:
    except they didnt make a billion doses in 2020.

    and it wasnt hard to guess there would be an issue of that magnitude at some point
    He said something about 2019 and ''next year pandemic''..
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  • 23scidoo said:
    Sorry, English is not my mother language..but did he said that??..

     "Moderna made 100,000 doses in 2019 for the whole year and I remember walking AFTER DAVOS into the office of manufacturing and saying 'how do we make a billion doses next year.' And they look at me a bit funny say 'what?' and I say 'yeah, we need to make a billion dose next year there's going to be a pandemic.'"..

    https://youtu.be/JOgP3w98gY8
    Laser eyes, pop up of incredulous face, sudden end of interview or panel discussion clip and YouTube, I’m convinced!
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,286
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    except they didnt make a billion doses in 2020.

    and it wasnt hard to guess there would be an issue of that magnitude at some point
    He said something about 2019 and ''next year pandemic''..
    Why would Moderna release a pandemic that was no worse than a cold?  And why would they then ensure that the vaccine didn't work for the "nothing worse than a cold" pandemic?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,644
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:
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    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:

    I'm concerned that lifting restrictions has given a lot of people cause to lower their common sense precautions regarding the virus.  I think a lot of people seem to equate lowering restrictions with meaning the virus is gone.  But of course we know it is not and it is still spreading.  I am one of the very few people I see out in public (post office, grocery store, etc.) who still wears a mask.  It's amazing to me that the vast majority of people don't seem to be concerned about COVID any more.  That attitude is driving me further and further into isolation.  For me, too many people are problematic and dangerous.
    What do you mean by too many people are problematic and dangerous? 
    Too many people don't cover their mouths when they cough, don't practice common sense hygiene, are not not considerate around older people like myself who can't afford to get COVID, let alone the flu.
    brianlux said:

    I'm concerned that lifting restrictions has given a lot of people cause to lower their common sense precautions regarding the virus.  I think a lot of people seem to equate lowering restrictions with meaning the virus is gone.  But of course we know it is not and it is still spreading.  I am one of the very few people I see out in public (post office, grocery store, etc.) who still wears a mask.  It's amazing to me that the vast majority of people don't seem to be concerned about COVID any more.  That attitude is driving me further and further into isolation.  For me, too many people are problematic and dangerous.
    I don't see many people with masks but definitely a handful. It's odd to me that people are so triggered by masks. Maybe you're protecting us? My doctor's office still requires them.

    One thing that is kind of irritating is seeing "Masks are mandatory" signs up on the doors of restaurants, etc., and you go in and no one is wearing a mask. IF you don't mean it take the fucking thing down.

    Yeah, I don't know why people are triggered by masks.  Deep seated guilt maybe?  But more likely an "it's my right" attitude.  Maybe it is their right.  It's also their right to be hemorrhoids , which is also often the case. 

    As for protecting, I'd say both, although probably more myself because I am more careful than most people I see in public (which I do as seldom as possible).  It may not be great protection, but it can't hurt and I'll take any precaution I can to stay well and alive. I won't live forever and I'm not obsessively afraid of death, but I really don't want to waste away from some frickin' damn disease! 

    The triggering all comes from right wing media. They used to yammer on about seeing people in their cars wearing masks and how stupid liberals must be for doing that.
    Left wing media should help these poor people and cover a story on driving alone in your car with a mask on. It's imbecilic. Doesn't get any worse. I'm on Long Island. I see it every day. 

    You have a problem with strangers wearing a mask while driving a car?  And to you nothing is worse than that, right? You're kidding, right? 

    No need to answer.  They're just rhetorical questions for your amusement  ( the prefix "a" meaning not, followed by the root "muse" derived from the Greek "to think".)
    Amusement, indeed. I always do the thumbs up and, when possible, I try to ask if they're wearing a condom in bed while sleeping alone.

    You seem easily bothered by things other people to that don't affect you or have anything to do with you. 
    Rather than be so bugged by people who wear masks, maybe consider that each of them/us is one fewer people likely to cough on you and give you some kind of disease- and not just COVID.  Like infectious mononucleosis, for example.  That one was a thrill ride.  Ran a fever for three months straight, had to crawl to get to the bathroom.  Woo hoo, good times.  Or how about Epstein Barr virus?  Talk about fatigue.  You hold yourself up best you can until break time and then collapse for 15 minute with tears running down your face. Then get up and do it again.  Hack or pack, baby.  What joy!
    I think we're getting hypocritical again. You were bothered by "problematic, dangerous" - unmasked and unvaccinated. Meanwhile, lone drivers with face masks don't give me anxiety. They put a smile on my face. True story. 

    There is a difference between be bothered by and feeling unsafe around.  Because of my age and compromised immune system.  Getting a bad flu or COVID incurs a higher than average risk of death for me. Nothing hypocritical there- just common sense. 
    As for what you think of drivers with masks or anyone else for that matter, frankly my dear, I don't give a damn!

    yep...protect yourself and screw the anti maskers

    It's amazingly common in some countries (Japan for one) to wear a mask if you are sick or compromised. The magats have made it a target for some reason.

    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:

    I'm concerned that lifting restrictions has given a lot of people cause to lower their common sense precautions regarding the virus.  I think a lot of people seem to equate lowering restrictions with meaning the virus is gone.  But of course we know it is not and it is still spreading.  I am one of the very few people I see out in public (post office, grocery store, etc.) who still wears a mask.  It's amazing to me that the vast majority of people don't seem to be concerned about COVID any more.  That attitude is driving me further and further into isolation.  For me, too many people are problematic and dangerous.
    What do you mean by too many people are problematic and dangerous? 
    Too many people don't cover their mouths when they cough, don't practice common sense hygiene, are not not considerate around older people like myself who can't afford to get COVID, let alone the flu.
    brianlux said:

    I'm concerned that lifting restrictions has given a lot of people cause to lower their common sense precautions regarding the virus.  I think a lot of people seem to equate lowering restrictions with meaning the virus is gone.  But of course we know it is not and it is still spreading.  I am one of the very few people I see out in public (post office, grocery store, etc.) who still wears a mask.  It's amazing to me that the vast majority of people don't seem to be concerned about COVID any more.  That attitude is driving me further and further into isolation.  For me, too many people are problematic and dangerous.
    I don't see many people with masks but definitely a handful. It's odd to me that people are so triggered by masks. Maybe you're protecting us? My doctor's office still requires them.

    One thing that is kind of irritating is seeing "Masks are mandatory" signs up on the doors of restaurants, etc., and you go in and no one is wearing a mask. IF you don't mean it take the fucking thing down.

    Yeah, I don't know why people are triggered by masks.  Deep seated guilt maybe?  But more likely an "it's my right" attitude.  Maybe it is their right.  It's also their right to be hemorrhoids , which is also often the case. 

    As for protecting, I'd say both, although probably more myself because I am more careful than most people I see in public (which I do as seldom as possible).  It may not be great protection, but it can't hurt and I'll take any precaution I can to stay well and alive. I won't live forever and I'm not obsessively afraid of death, but I really don't want to waste away from some frickin' damn disease! 

    The triggering all comes from right wing media. They used to yammer on about seeing people in their cars wearing masks and how stupid liberals must be for doing that.
    Left wing media should help these poor people and cover a story on driving alone in your car with a mask on. It's imbecilic. Doesn't get any worse. I'm on Long Island. I see it every day. 

    You have a problem with strangers wearing a mask while driving a car?  And to you nothing is worse than that, right? You're kidding, right? 

    No need to answer.  They're just rhetorical questions for your amusement  ( the prefix "a" meaning not, followed by the root "muse" derived from the Greek "to think".)
    Amusement, indeed. I always do the thumbs up and, when possible, I try to ask if they're wearing a condom in bed while sleeping alone.

    You seem easily bothered by things other people to that don't affect you or have anything to do with you. 
    Rather than be so bugged by people who wear masks, maybe consider that each of them/us is one fewer people likely to cough on you and give you some kind of disease- and not just COVID.  Like infectious mononucleosis, for example.  That one was a thrill ride.  Ran a fever for three months straight, had to crawl to get to the bathroom.  Woo hoo, good times.  Or how about Epstein Barr virus?  Talk about fatigue.  You hold yourself up best you can until break time and then collapse for 15 minute with tears running down your face. Then get up and do it again.  Hack or pack, baby.  What joy!
    I think we're getting hypocritical again. You were bothered by "problematic, dangerous" - unmasked and unvaccinated. Meanwhile, lone drivers with face masks don't give me anxiety. They put a smile on my face. True story. 

    There is a difference between be bothered by and feeling unsafe around.  Because of my age and compromised immune system.  Getting a bad flu or COVID incurs a higher than average risk of death for me. Nothing hypocritical there- just common sense. 
    As for what you think of drivers with masks or anyone else for that matter, frankly my dear, I don't give a damn!

    yep...protect yourself and screw the anti maskers

    It's amazingly common in some countries (Japan for one) to wear a mask if you are sick or compromised. The magats have made it a target for some reason.

    imagine how many all to common respiratory illnesses would go away here if we had a similar mindset here.

    Right on, both!
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,535
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    except they didnt make a billion doses in 2020.

    and it wasnt hard to guess there would be an issue of that magnitude at some point
    He said something about 2019 and ''next year pandemic''..
    Why would Moderna release a pandemic that was no worse than a cold?  And why would they then ensure that the vaccine didn't work for the "nothing worse than a cold" pandemic?
    And why would someone who created such a diabolical plot just let that slip out like that? Way to keep a secret there buddy! 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,876
    edited February 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    except they didnt make a billion doses in 2020.

    and it wasnt hard to guess there would be an issue of that magnitude at some point
    He said something about 2019 and ''next year pandemic''..
    Why would Moderna release a pandemic that was no worse than a cold?  And why would they then ensure that the vaccine didn't work for the "nothing worse than a cold" pandemic?
    And why would someone who created such a diabolical plot just let that slip out like that? Way to keep a secret there buddy! 
    World's stupidest arch-villains.  They make a shitty virus and then a shittier vaccine. 
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,954
    I can only hope this is as promising as it sounds.

    Scientists discover receptor that blocks COVID-19 infection
    by University of Sydney
    2.9.23

    https://phys.org/news/2023-02-scientists-receptor-blocks-covid-infection.html


    Falling down,...not staying down
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • Kat said:
    I can only hope this is as promising as it sounds.

    Scientists discover receptor that blocks COVID-19 infection
    by University of Sydney
    2.9.23

    https://phys.org/news/2023-02-scientists-receptor-blocks-covid-infection.html



    This is absolutely  amazing  and for fibrosis seems a game changer.


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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,286
    edited February 2023
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    Post edited by mickeyrat on
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,929
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
    You should look into that claim about February… there’s a lot of info out there about it spreading as early as December 2019 in Italy and even earlier.
  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,855
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
    You should look into that claim about February… there’s a lot of info out there about it spreading as early as December 2019 in Italy and even earlier.
    My niece had what we believe to be covid the end of December 2019.  Husband got it beginning of feb 2020 and I started on 2-12-20.  At that time we just kept saying wtf is this?  Couldn’t taste or smell, had the covid cough, all the symptoms.  It wasn’t till March that our pc said it was covid.  
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,864
    Kat said:
    I can only hope this is as promising as it sounds.

    Scientists discover receptor that blocks COVID-19 infection
    by University of Sydney
    2.9.23

    https://phys.org/news/2023-02-scientists-receptor-blocks-covid-infection.html


    Fingers crossed.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,286
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..

    no, I am fairly certain. but open to new information. as the science changes, undrstanding changes.
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,286
    interesting info here. just in a 2 week time frame. jan 20 of 2020 to feb 4 of 2020....

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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,535
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    23scidoo said:
    mickeyrat said:
    prob better to have the whole panel discussion...


    And??..his English are worst of mine..

    davos happened in January that year. 2020. late January.  by that time a couple cases wete in the states. it was popping up in many places. safe enough bet to predict a pandemic. not only that, he didnt specify just when after davos he made the prediction....

    you seem to have settled on some specific ideas around this. I would encourage you to be open to the possibility your ideas are wrong. critical thinking is vital. it must be applied to ourselves too.


    and since he's clearly not a native English speaker, whos to say it came out the way he meant to say it

    There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance-that principle is contempt prior to investigation.


    So you are not sure either..
    thanks for the advice..i hope you use it to your self also..
    critical thinking..vital..indeed..
    first cases came up on Italy middle February..
    You should look into that claim about February… there’s a lot of info out there about it spreading as early as December 2019 in Italy and even earlier.
    If my memory is holding up, China gave Covid’s genetic code out to pharmaceuticals in January so they could make the vaccine.