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lastexitlondon said:I would say hand washing and distance make perfect sense. No brainer0
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I think the statement was that the six feet was not necessarily the silver bullet, i.e., there wasn't a magic distance that made you all the sudden super safe. Staying at home > 20 feet > 10 feet > 6 feet >1 foot.
Unfortunately, people that only read headlines and are looking to be outrage are essentially interpreting it as "all social distancing was worthless." I can't wait for next time when we have no precautions.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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lastexitlondon said:I would say hand washing and distance make perfect sense. No brainer
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I believe in science and I believe that all viruses that are airborne makes sense to keep your distance. I still feel like during winter or seasons where virus is more rife keep a distance and it may only be me but I'm not comfortable right in anyone's face or space. I know how airborne virus works. I know it's not for everyone but I stay away from close up situations as much as I can. That's mebrixton 93
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I will add I did this well before covid. And it's not new to me to think this waybrixton 93
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Poncier said:Go Beavers said:OnWis97 said:I'm sure the 6 feet thing was less-than-precise. I don't necessarily think that means we needed to be breaking fire codes at clubs and packing ourselves into places like sardeans.
I mean, COVID is airborne so should we walk-back the messages promoting hand-washing?
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I can’t believe we are still dealing with this virus! My adult daughter tested positive last night she works at a child care facility and off course no one is being careful no mask no distancing nothing! They just keep spreading it ughhhjesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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josevolution said:I can’t believe we are still dealing with this virus! My adult daughter tested positive last night she works at a child care facility and off course no one is being careful no mask no distancing nothing! They just keep spreading it ughhh
ummm, still dealing with varients of the spanish flu jose. more than 100 yrs now. will be the same with this , I expect....
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mickeyrat said:josevolution said:I can’t believe we are still dealing with this virus! My adult daughter tested positive last night she works at a child care facility and off course no one is being careful no mask no distancing nothing! They just keep spreading it ughhh
ummm, still dealing with varients of the spanish flu jose. more than 100 yrs now. will be the same with this , I expect....0 -
But the spanish flu didn't came from a lab..and as far as I know, didn't was funded from US government..
''get the vaccine, dont spread the virus, protect the elders''..the good old days..lol..Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
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23scidoo said:But the spanish flu didn't came from a lab..and as far as I know, didn't was funded from US government..
''get the vaccine, dont spread the virus, protect the elders''..the good old days..lol..0 -
23scidoo said:But the spanish flu didn't came from a lab..and as far as I know, didn't was funded from US government..
''get the vaccine, dont spread the virus, protect the elders''..the good old days..lol..0 -
Go Beavers said:23scidoo said:But the spanish flu didn't came from a lab..and as far as I know, didn't was funded from US government..
''get the vaccine, dont spread the virus, protect the elders''..the good old days..lol..
duh, it cant definitively be disproved so that is the proof.
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its so fucking funny, I mean really. Since this began China's economy is doing very badly.So what would have been the point? to create something then not have an effective means of control so as not to devastate your own country? then have the vaccine your country crested to combat this be very ineffective against?again, what was the point then?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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mickeyrat said:its so fucking funny, I mean really. Since this began China's economy is doing very badly.So what would have been the point? to create something then not have an effective means of control so as not to devastate your own country? then have the vaccine your country crested to combat this be very ineffective against?again, what was the point then?
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bootlegger10 said:mickeyrat said:its so fucking funny, I mean really. Since this began China's economy is doing very badly.So what would have been the point? to create something then not have an effective means of control so as not to devastate your own country? then have the vaccine your country crested to combat this be very ineffective against?again, what was the point then?
John Stewart on the Wuhan Coronavirus Lab (youtube.com)while plausible, its equally so that a zooinotic jumped as has happened often enough over time.so in my view it comes down to whats probable , both could be. given conditions as described, I happen to lean natural over the synthetic , whereas some here seem to infer it was a purposeful release and not accidental as posited above.given the number of feces related viruses to infect humans, thats where my money is at.either way, its a thing to now guard against taking neccessary precautions or not as one may see fit._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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mrussel1 said:23scidoo said:But the spanish flu didn't came from a lab..and as far as I know, didn't was funded from US government..
''get the vaccine, dont spread the virus, protect the elders''..the good old days..lol..Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
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Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??
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23scidoo said:Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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23scidoo said:Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??It is based on an analysis by our team at the Brown School of Public Health, in collaboration with Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Microsoft AI for Health showing that between January 2021 and April 2022, vaccines could have prevented at least 318,000 Covid-19 deaths. This means that at least every second person who died from Covid-19 since vaccines became available might have been saved by getting the shot.
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Go Beavers said:23scidoo said:Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??It is based on an analysis by our team at the Brown School of Public Health, in collaboration with Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Microsoft AI for Health showing that between January 2021 and April 2022, vaccines could have prevented at least 318,000 Covid-19 deaths. This means that at least every second person who died from Covid-19 since vaccines became available might have been saved by getting the shot.
https://globalepidemics.org/vaccinations/
I don't even know what to think of the vaccines anymore. I have four shots under my belt. I had covid about a year ago.
Do I regret getting the shots? No; at least not yet. Will I again? Undecided. Probably.
But we were sold:- It reduces the chance of getting covid (Unsure; maybe before certain variants)
- You need to get it so it won't spread (preposterous)
- It's safe (questionable; particularly in younger males)
- It will reduce the severity of your bout with covid (True and seemingly the primary benefit it offers)
"Conspiracy Theories":- It was shoved down our throats with the threat of people losing their livelihoods (True)
- Societal benefit was marginal (Seems to be true)
- Risky for individuals (True)
- It's currently the vaxxed and not the unvaxed that are getting/spreading covid (Unsure; Never seen anything that will point to or for that)
- Thousands of young male athletes are having cardiac episodes (Exaggerated but seemingly true)
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OnWis97 said:Go Beavers said:23scidoo said:Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??It is based on an analysis by our team at the Brown School of Public Health, in collaboration with Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Microsoft AI for Health showing that between January 2021 and April 2022, vaccines could have prevented at least 318,000 Covid-19 deaths. This means that at least every second person who died from Covid-19 since vaccines became available might have been saved by getting the shot.
https://globalepidemics.org/vaccinations/
I don't even know what to think of the vaccines anymore. I have four shots under my belt. I had covid about a year ago.
Do I regret getting the shots? No; at least not yet. Will I again? Undecided. Probably.
But we were sold:- It reduces the chance of getting covid (Unsure; maybe before certain variants)
- You need to get it so it won't spread (preposterous)
- It's safe (questionable; particularly in younger males)
- It will reduce the severity of your bout with covid (True and seemingly the primary benefit it offers)
"Conspiracy Theories":- It was shoved down our throats with the threat of people losing their livelihoods (True)
- Societal benefit was marginal (Seems to be true)
- Risky for individuals (True)
- It's currently the vaxxed and not the unvaxed that are getting/spreading covid (Unsure; Never seen anything that will point to or for that)
- Thousands of young male athletes are having cardiac episodes (Exaggerated but seemingly true)
Second, if 'thousands' of young males are having more episodes (do you have that data?), how do you know that is from the vaccine and not the virus itself? Is the data locked in that people without the vaccine have a normal rate of incidence compared to those with the vaccine?0 -
OnWis97 said:Go Beavers said:23scidoo said:Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??It is based on an analysis by our team at the Brown School of Public Health, in collaboration with Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Microsoft AI for Health showing that between January 2021 and April 2022, vaccines could have prevented at least 318,000 Covid-19 deaths. This means that at least every second person who died from Covid-19 since vaccines became available might have been saved by getting the shot.
https://globalepidemics.org/vaccinations/
I don't even know what to think of the vaccines anymore. I have four shots under my belt. I had covid about a year ago.
Do I regret getting the shots? No; at least not yet. Will I again? Undecided. Probably.
But we were sold:- It reduces the chance of getting covid (Unsure; maybe before certain variants)
- You need to get it so it won't spread (preposterous)
- It's safe (questionable; particularly in younger males)
- It will reduce the severity of your bout with covid (True and seemingly the primary benefit it offers)
"Conspiracy Theories":- It was shoved down our throats with the threat of people losing their livelihoods (True)
- Societal benefit was marginal (Seems to be true)
- Risky for individuals (True)
- It's currently the vaxxed and not the unvaxed that are getting/spreading covid (Unsure; Never seen anything that will point to or for that)
- Thousands of young male athletes are having cardiac episodes (Exaggerated but seemingly true)
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Merkin Baller said:OnWis97 said:Go Beavers said:23scidoo said:Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??It is based on an analysis by our team at the Brown School of Public Health, in collaboration with Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Microsoft AI for Health showing that between January 2021 and April 2022, vaccines could have prevented at least 318,000 Covid-19 deaths. This means that at least every second person who died from Covid-19 since vaccines became available might have been saved by getting the shot.
https://globalepidemics.org/vaccinations/
I don't even know what to think of the vaccines anymore. I have four shots under my belt. I had covid about a year ago.
Do I regret getting the shots? No; at least not yet. Will I again? Undecided. Probably.
But we were sold:- It reduces the chance of getting covid (Unsure; maybe before certain variants)
- You need to get it so it won't spread (preposterous)
- It's safe (questionable; particularly in younger males)
- It will reduce the severity of your bout with covid (True and seemingly the primary benefit it offers)
"Conspiracy Theories":- It was shoved down our throats with the threat of people losing their livelihoods (True)
- Societal benefit was marginal (Seems to be true)
- Risky for individuals (True)
- It's currently the vaxxed and not the unvaxed that are getting/spreading covid (Unsure; Never seen anything that will point to or for that)
- Thousands of young male athletes are having cardiac episodes (Exaggerated but seemingly true)
I don’t dispute that the vaccine didn’t do everything they told us (hoped?) it would, but that doesn’t mean the rollout wasn’t a net gain for society.0 -
OnWis97 said:Go Beavers said:23scidoo said:Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??It is based on an analysis by our team at the Brown School of Public Health, in collaboration with Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Microsoft AI for Health showing that between January 2021 and April 2022, vaccines could have prevented at least 318,000 Covid-19 deaths. This means that at least every second person who died from Covid-19 since vaccines became available might have been saved by getting the shot.
https://globalepidemics.org/vaccinations/
I don't even know what to think of the vaccines anymore. I have four shots under my belt. I had covid about a year ago.
Do I regret getting the shots? No; at least not yet. Will I again? Undecided. Probably.
But we were sold:- It reduces the chance of getting covid (Unsure; maybe before certain variants)
- You need to get it so it won't spread (preposterous)
- It's safe (questionable; particularly in younger males)
- It will reduce the severity of your bout with covid (True and seemingly the primary benefit it offers)
"Conspiracy Theories":- It was shoved down our throats with the threat of people losing their livelihoods (True)
- Societal benefit was marginal (Seems to be true)
- Risky for individuals (True)
- It's currently the vaxxed and not the unvaxed that are getting/spreading covid (Unsure; Never seen anything that will point to or for that)
- Thousands of young male athletes are having cardiac episodes (Exaggerated but seemingly true)
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josevolution said:23scidoo said:Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??
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Go Beavers said:23scidoo said:Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??It is based on an analysis by our team at the Brown School of Public Health, in collaboration with Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Microsoft AI for Health showing that between January 2021 and April 2022, vaccines could have prevented at least 318,000 Covid-19 deaths. This means that at least every second person who died from Covid-19 since vaccines became available might have been saved by getting the shot.
https://globalepidemics.org/vaccinations/
they told us, ''get the vaccine so do not spread it??..lie..
they yold us, ''get the vaccine , so dont get the virus??..lie..
and the biggest one about the origin..
how many vaccinated are now in the hospitals??..how many of the ''covid deaths'' are vaccinated and how many not??..Post edited by 23scidoo onAthens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
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Merkin Baller said:Merkin Baller said:OnWis97 said:Go Beavers said:23scidoo said:Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??It is based on an analysis by our team at the Brown School of Public Health, in collaboration with Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Microsoft AI for Health showing that between January 2021 and April 2022, vaccines could have prevented at least 318,000 Covid-19 deaths. This means that at least every second person who died from Covid-19 since vaccines became available might have been saved by getting the shot.
https://globalepidemics.org/vaccinations/
I don't even know what to think of the vaccines anymore. I have four shots under my belt. I had covid about a year ago.
Do I regret getting the shots? No; at least not yet. Will I again? Undecided. Probably.
But we were sold:- It reduces the chance of getting covid (Unsure; maybe before certain variants)
- You need to get it so it won't spread (preposterous)
- It's safe (questionable; particularly in younger males)
- It will reduce the severity of your bout with covid (True and seemingly the primary benefit it offers)
"Conspiracy Theories":- It was shoved down our throats with the threat of people losing their livelihoods (True)
- Societal benefit was marginal (Seems to be true)
- Risky for individuals (True)
- It's currently the vaxxed and not the unvaxed that are getting/spreading covid (Unsure; Never seen anything that will point to or for that)
- Thousands of young male athletes are having cardiac episodes (Exaggerated but seemingly true)
I don’t dispute that the vaccine didn’t do everything they told us (hoped?) it would, but that doesn’t mean the rollout wasn’t a net gain for society.Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
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Merkin Baller said:OnWis97 said:Go Beavers said:23scidoo said:Αnd again, why is it so hard for you to admit that we were fooled, that we were told a bunch of lies??It is based on an analysis by our team at the Brown School of Public Health, in collaboration with Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Microsoft AI for Health showing that between January 2021 and April 2022, vaccines could have prevented at least 318,000 Covid-19 deaths. This means that at least every second person who died from Covid-19 since vaccines became available might have been saved by getting the shot.
https://globalepidemics.org/vaccinations/
I don't even know what to think of the vaccines anymore. I have four shots under my belt. I had covid about a year ago.
Do I regret getting the shots? No; at least not yet. Will I again? Undecided. Probably.
But we were sold:- It reduces the chance of getting covid (Unsure; maybe before certain variants)
- You need to get it so it won't spread (preposterous)
- It's safe (questionable; particularly in younger males)
- It will reduce the severity of your bout with covid (True and seemingly the primary benefit it offers)
"Conspiracy Theories":- It was shoved down our throats with the threat of people losing their livelihoods (True)
- Societal benefit was marginal (Seems to be true)
- Risky for individuals (True)
- It's currently the vaxxed and not the unvaxed that are getting/spreading covid (Unsure; Never seen anything that will point to or for that)
- Thousands of young male athletes are having cardiac episodes (Exaggerated but seemingly true)
Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
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