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  • Also not mRNA vaccines.
    If you are not a parent you have no say on the matter of what should or shouldn't be given to a child 
    Really? Ok for parents to allow kids access to alcohol? Prescription medication like oxy or Vicodin? Tobacco products? Society doesn’t have an interest in how kids are raised or whether they make it to adulthood? News to me.
    We are talking about vaccines here in this thread .all that other shit you are spouting isn't vaccines so has nothing to do with it. Don't take it out of context 
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,752
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    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
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  • Actually I don't understand what your point even is all those things you mentioned are not given to children.

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  • And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
  • Vaccines my children. This is a vaccine thread. I know how you roll mate. You don't have a valid point. Good eve
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  • JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    Non parents can't ever understand this. It's impossible for them. Just a fact
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  • Vaccines my children. This is a vaccine thread. I know how you roll mate. You don't have a valid point. Good eve
    FFS, you make a blanket statement, I ask a question and throw examples into it, and you throw a hissy fit. Good evening and morning to you, sir, indeed.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,478
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....

    ohhh fan fucking tastic!!!!

    does this mean ONLY parents should fund s hooks through property taxes then? I want a refund......
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mickeyrat said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....

    ohhh fan fucking tastic!!!!

    does this mean ONLY parents should fund s hooks through property taxes then? I want a refund......
    Are you going to pay back what was spent on you to go to school as a child then?
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    Where is that a thing? If it's true,  then yes I would be very much against any student going to school without the vaccinations.  Please share. 
  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,752
    edited October 2023
    We have immigrants spreading t.b and measles because they were not vaccinated in their country of origin.
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    We have immigrants spreading t.b and measles because they were not vaccinated in their country of origin.
    I'm asking about the States. 
  • Oh ok so if it's not in USA it doesn't count towards the topic?
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  • It always comes around to blaming the immigrants. Always.
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  • lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 13,752
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    Just facts 
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  • It's not the fault of the person or immigration. The country they came from didn't have the vaccine program we had. At school we all had the BCG and MMR they did not
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    It always comes around to blaming the immigrants. Always.
    No one here is blaming immigrants.... 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    Oh ok so if it's not in USA it doesn't count towards the topic?
    JB is saying this happens in the US. I'm asking where. I don't have a stake or say in  what happens in the UK. 
  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    Where is that a thing? If it's true,  then yes I would be very much against any student going to school without the vaccinations.  Please share. 
    https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/controversy-arises-as-new-york-allows-unvaccinated-migrant-children-in-schools-state-attorney-general-letitia-james-influx-measles-chickenpox-tetanus-health-concerns

    WASHINGTON (TND) — When returning to the classroom most have to be vaccinated but New York struggling to deal with an influx of migrant children is now allowing them to attend school and they don't need to have their paperwork on vaccinations.

  • JB16057 said:
    It always comes around to blaming the immigrants. Always.
    No one here is blaming immigrants.... 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    It always comes around to blaming the immigrants. Always.
    No one here is blaming immigrants.... 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    That isn't blaming immigrants. 
  • JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    It always comes around to blaming the immigrants. Always.
    No one here is blaming immigrants.... 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    That isn't blaming immigrants. 
    What is it then?
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  • JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    It always comes around to blaming the immigrants. Always.
    No one here is blaming immigrants.... 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    That isn't blaming immigrants. 
    What is it then?
    How is this blaming immigrants? 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    Where is that a thing? If it's true,  then yes I would be very much against any student going to school without the vaccinations.  Please share. 
    https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/controversy-arises-as-new-york-allows-unvaccinated-migrant-children-in-schools-state-attorney-general-letitia-james-influx-measles-chickenpox-tetanus-health-concerns

    WASHINGTON (TND) — When returning to the classroom most have to be vaccinated but New York struggling to deal with an influx of migrant children is now allowing them to attend school and they don't need to have their paperwork on vaccinations.

    Thanks.  100% they should not be allowed in school until vaccinated.  This jeopardizes the health of the whole community

  • mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    Where is that a thing? If it's true,  then yes I would be very much against any student going to school without the vaccinations.  Please share. 
    https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/controversy-arises-as-new-york-allows-unvaccinated-migrant-children-in-schools-state-attorney-general-letitia-james-influx-measles-chickenpox-tetanus-health-concerns

    WASHINGTON (TND) — When returning to the classroom most have to be vaccinated but New York struggling to deal with an influx of migrant children is now allowing them to attend school and they don't need to have their paperwork on vaccinations.

    Thanks.  100% they should not be allowed in school until vaccinated.  This jeopardizes the health of the whole community

    Nor should native born children. But if you don’t have kids, you can’t possibly understand this.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,627
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    Where is that a thing? If it's true,  then yes I would be very much against any student going to school without the vaccinations.  Please share. 
    https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/controversy-arises-as-new-york-allows-unvaccinated-migrant-children-in-schools-state-attorney-general-letitia-james-influx-measles-chickenpox-tetanus-health-concerns

    WASHINGTON (TND) — When returning to the classroom most have to be vaccinated but New York struggling to deal with an influx of migrant children is now allowing them to attend school and they don't need to have their paperwork on vaccinations.

    Thanks.  100% they should not be allowed in school until vaccinated.  This jeopardizes the health of the whole community

    Nor should native born children. But if you don’t have kids, you can’t possibly understand this.
    I agree on native born too. 
  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JB16057 said:
    And as a parent I decide not you. There is a level of responsibility that once you have children you have that non parents will never ever understand or have.
    Do you only have a responsibility to your children as a parent or do you also have a responsibility to society as well? Vaccines or otherwise?
    Children as a parent comes before society but only parents would know this.....
    That's fine,  but don't expect to use all of the benefits of the society in that case. And yes,  I have three kids. 
    Where's your outrage about the illegal immigrants sending their kids off to school without their vaccinations? If I don't get to use the benefits of society as an American citizen paying taxes, illegal immigrants shouldn't be getting those benefits either. It's only fair, right?
    Where is that a thing? If it's true,  then yes I would be very much against any student going to school without the vaccinations.  Please share. 
    https://cbsaustin.com/news/nation-world/controversy-arises-as-new-york-allows-unvaccinated-migrant-children-in-schools-state-attorney-general-letitia-james-influx-measles-chickenpox-tetanus-health-concerns

    WASHINGTON (TND) — When returning to the classroom most have to be vaccinated but New York struggling to deal with an influx of migrant children is now allowing them to attend school and they don't need to have their paperwork on vaccinations.

    Thanks.  100% they should not be allowed in school until vaccinated.  This jeopardizes the health of the whole community

    But American children don't have to be vaccinated to go to school so why should immigrant children?
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