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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    mickeyrat said:
    ^^^ its true, he IS old.

    Oh yeah?! HORSE...  umm, uuum...

    ...awe shit... how's that go?

    Oh yeah... HORSE SHIRT!
    AW124797 said:
    brianlux said:
    To no one here in particular: I don't know why people continue to argue about vaccinations.  You're either going to get one or you're not.  I have a somewhat compromised immune system and I'm what some people would consider "old".  COVID or a bad flu virus could easily kill me, so I'm not taking any chances.  Others may have little or no concern, or don't believe COVID is real, or follow some kind of conspiracy theory about the whole thing- and that to me is stupid, but it's their choice.  I'm not going to tell any one what to do or even say they "should blah blah blah".   But unless I know someone is taking similar precautions to mine and at the very least respect my concerns, they can have their beliefs and make their own choices- just stay the hell away from me, thank you very much!
    Sir, nobody wants to take your boosters away.
    Oh you got that right!  But that wasn't my point.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,583
    AW124797 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity  is by far the  best thing.  Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these  boosters is beyond me.
    That because your information sources are biased. 
    Ok mate. I have no bias

    Which is the problem. Everyone has bias because it’s a natural human function. People who think they don’t are more susceptible to being led astray because they lack self awareness. 
    What a load of crap. Lack of self awareness.  Dear lord. Thats pathetic 
    Kudos to you on being able to over-come normal functioning and shutting down that part of your brain. 
    I dont get what your purpose is. Im happy to conversate  and learn or whatever  but again you dont seem capable.  Most people  talk and share without  being an idiot about it. 
    I’m totally capable of conversing, and bias is part of the conversation, so try not to flip this around on me as some sort of deficiency on my part. The last 3 years has been an immersed experience in people’s biases. Now we’re in the phase where people are trying to over-state vaccine risks and by way of confirmation bias, will grasp on to any single item to convince themselves the vaccines are dangerous. 


    No. In the last 3 years you've had 6 covid vaccine boosters, caught covid 5 times, infected numerous others, felt like shit after few jabs and now you're still here, everyday, trying to convince strangers that covid vaccine works. Crazy, right?
    Nah, I find the process anti-vaxxers go through rather interesting. It combines the downsides of the internet with the downsides of how the brain works. 
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,998
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    This is from  his disclaimer . Ive read it. Its from him being a teacher. And supplying books as an educational  teacher. The Australian  guy has nothing  to do with johns teaching.  Do you  discredit the mans whole education in immunology.?  Who can the science  he is speaking be false?
    I want to see and read studies. 

    I don't watch youtube videos and take what's said in them at face value. 
    You dont trust an immunologist? Its science.  Nevermind 
    What about all the immunologists that have differing opinions? How did you decide this one was right, and the other ones were wrong?
    another million question..
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,998
    Merkin Baller said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    fooled about what?
    Don't hold your breath for an answer.
    Are we gonna say the same things again and again??
    they fooled us..its over now..lets move on..
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    AW124797 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity  is by far the  best thing.  Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these  boosters is beyond me.
    That because your information sources are biased. 
    Ok mate. I have no bias

    Which is the problem. Everyone has bias because it’s a natural human function. People who think they don’t are more susceptible to being led astray because they lack self awareness. 
    What a load of crap. Lack of self awareness.  Dear lord. Thats pathetic 
    Kudos to you on being able to over-come normal functioning and shutting down that part of your brain. 
    I dont get what your purpose is. Im happy to conversate  and learn or whatever  but again you dont seem capable.  Most people  talk and share without  being an idiot about it. 
    I’m totally capable of conversing, and bias is part of the conversation, so try not to flip this around on me as some sort of deficiency on my part. The last 3 years has been an immersed experience in people’s biases. Now we’re in the phase where people are trying to over-state vaccine risks and by way of confirmation bias, will grasp on to any single item to convince themselves the vaccines are dangerous. 


    No. In the last 3 years you've had 6 covid vaccine boosters, caught covid 5 times, infected numerous others, felt like shit after few jabs and now you're still here, everyday, trying to convince strangers that covid vaccine works. Crazy, right?
    So the vaccines have saved potentially millions from death, yet you’re here, trying to convince strangers the vaccine doesn’t work. Crazy, right? 
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,813

    The people who are just asking the questions sure do hate when questions are asked of them. Funny how that all works. 


    Sea should have left this thread closed. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    benjs said:
    Nine days since messaging Dr. Campbell on Twitter without any response, for what it's worth. People are delusional if they think that someone with a scientific theory with merit and evidence could be successfully suppressed in this day and age. Also, similar to Matt, I prefer to read a damn article. Last thing, from Dr. Campbell's Wikipedia page's Careers section:

    "Campbell worked as a nursing educator at the University of Cumbria, and has experience as an emergency department nurse.[8] He has also tutored healthcare workers in Cambodia and India.[8] He is the author of the nursing-related bioscience textbooks Campbell's Physiology Notes and Campbell's Pathophysiology Notes. A review in Emergency Nurse magazine said that the latter textbook contained "excellent [and] inexpensive notes on the causes, pathophysiological changes, and clinical features seen in disease processes".[9] In 2008, he established a YouTube channel to provide educational lectures on topics in health science and nursing.[10]"

    Sorry, but a guy who writes teaching methods and studies nursing practices, is just not the guy I believe should be listened to on the impacts of vaccines. Maybe, say, an immunologist would be better? Too many god damn armchair experts out here, and too many people believing blindly when it resembles a position they have.
    So wait, he's not even an immunologist?
  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,383
    edited January 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    Nine days since messaging Dr. Campbell on Twitter without any response, for what it's worth. People are delusional if they think that someone with a scientific theory with merit and evidence could be successfully suppressed in this day and age. Also, similar to Matt, I prefer to read a damn article. Last thing, from Dr. Campbell's Wikipedia page's Careers section:

    "Campbell worked as a nursing educator at the University of Cumbria, and has experience as an emergency department nurse.[8] He has also tutored healthcare workers in Cambodia and India.[8] He is the author of the nursing-related bioscience textbooks Campbell's Physiology Notes and Campbell's Pathophysiology Notes. A review in Emergency Nurse magazine said that the latter textbook contained "excellent [and] inexpensive notes on the causes, pathophysiological changes, and clinical features seen in disease processes".[9] In 2008, he established a YouTube channel to provide educational lectures on topics in health science and nursing.[10]"

    Sorry, but a guy who writes teaching methods and studies nursing practices, is just not the guy I believe should be listened to on the impacts of vaccines. Maybe, say, an immunologist would be better? Too many god damn armchair experts out here, and too many people believing blindly when it resembles a position they have.
    So wait, he's not even an immunologist?
    Can you believe this shit? We're here discussing this doctor like his history somehow provides credibility to his positions - that's not the case. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited January 2023
    Just here to say that I received the vaccine and booster and have NOT contracted Covid yet…that is all anecdotal, I know.  To add, I live in one of the most conservative places in the country with very few public preventative measures in place.  I do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, go to concerts, etc, so I’m not a social recluse by any means :)  =)
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    PJPOWER said:
    Just here to say that I received the vaccine and booster and have NOT contracted Covid yet…that is all anecdotal, I know.  To add, I live in one of the most conservative places in the country with very few public preventative measures in place.  I do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, go to concerts, etc, so I’m not a social recluse by any means :)  =)
    awesome. my first infection was just this past November. symptomatic 3 days after a Headstones show. Shoulder to shoulder. Not surprising. But the two people I was shoulder to shoulder with didn't get it. So who the frick knows. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    PJPOWER said:
    Just here to say that I received the vaccine and booster and have NOT contracted Covid yet…that is all anecdotal, I know.  To add, I live in one of the most conservative places in the country with very few public preventative measures in place.  I do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, go to concerts, etc, so I’m not a social recluse by any means :)  =)
    Congratulations.  You are no longer a "pure blood" and your DNA has changed. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,260
    PJPOWER said:
    Just here to say that I received the vaccine and booster and have NOT contracted Covid yet…that is all anecdotal, I know.  To add, I live in one of the most conservative places in the country with very few public preventative measures in place.  I do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, go to concerts, etc, so I’m not a social recluse by any means :)  =)
    Same...I'm in red meat Indiana and have had all my boosters and have not contracted it. My 20 year old daughter did test positive and had the loss of smell/taste symptoms for awhile but everyone else has been clear.

    I have had a few clients die from it and a few still recovering from the ventilator. One in particular comes in annually and gives me their magat point of view. This experience did not change them. They still think that doctors don't know how to treat covid and that the vaccine is worthless.
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,383
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Just here to say that I received the vaccine and booster and have NOT contracted Covid yet…that is all anecdotal, I know.  To add, I live in one of the most conservative places in the country with very few public preventative measures in place.  I do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, go to concerts, etc, so I’m not a social recluse by any means :)  =)
    Congratulations.  You are no longer a "pure blood" and your DNA has changed. 
    I got my fourth shot two days ago. When they confirmed that it was the Bivalent Pfizer, I asked about whether it's the one with the latest microchip, just to be sure. I don't want to have to go back for a firmware upgrade in, like, two months.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited January 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Just here to say that I received the vaccine and booster and have NOT contracted Covid yet…that is all anecdotal, I know.  To add, I live in one of the most conservative places in the country with very few public preventative measures in place.  I do Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, go to concerts, etc, so I’m not a social recluse by any means :)  =)
    Congratulations.  You are no longer a "pure blood" and your DNA has changed. 
    Hahaha!  I was wondering where that third nipple came from :)
  • Indifference
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  • Go Beavers
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    Indifference said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C41GCgyG4mI

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Go Beavers said:
    Indifference said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C41GCgyG4mI

    Who is this clown? The winners! 😂
    "5 years from now." What a bunch of BS. Imagine working with or for this guy? Thanks for that very astute analysis. The white board with some kind of scale on it was very, very? Hmmmmm, very? Convincing. Good lord. 
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,998
    edited January 2023
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    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Go Beavers said:
    Indifference said:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C41GCgyG4mI

    Who is this clown? The winners! 😂
    "5 years from now." What a bunch of BS. Imagine working with or for this guy? Thanks for that very astute analysis. The white board with some kind of scale on it was very, very? Hmmmmm, very? Convincing. Good lord. 
    It's really hard to argue with data driven conclusions like this, especially ones where it's clear who is "happier".  

    I think there was a  line that said "If you got Omnicron or another strain, didn't take the vax and didn't die, then you were right!".  Duh.  
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,110
    edited January 2023
    What about the people who didn't get vaxxed and died? Did they win more than the living vaccinated? But not as much as the living unvaccinated?
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