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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,069
    edited January 2023
    They are both saying  very similar  i just  read that harvard one. She says we are better off with them  for the likes of cancer and tb. That could be right  fpr cancer  thats what he said too.Did you listen  to the  Australian?
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  • Go Beavers
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    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity  is by far the  best thing.  Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these  boosters is beyond me.
    That because your information sources are biased. 
    Ok mate. I have no bias

    Which is the problem. Everyone has bias because it’s a natural human function. People who think they don’t are more susceptible to being led astray because they lack self awareness. 
    What a load of crap. Lack of self awareness.  Dear lord. Thats pathetic 
    Kudos to you on being able to over-come normal functioning and shutting down that part of your brain. 
  • mrussel1
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    lastexitlondon said:
    They are both saying  very similar  i just  read that harvard one. Did you listen  to the  Australian?
    No I'm at work,  I can't watch a video. But wouldnt to be honest.  I consume information by reading.  

    She is concluding that mRNA is safe and the future of vaccines.  In fact,  she concluded its safer than traditional vaccines and the foundational research for mRNA has been going for two decades,  focused on SARS and MERS. If Australian is concluding the same,  then what's the issue here?
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,069
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity  is by far the  best thing.  Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these  boosters is beyond me.
    That because your information sources are biased. 
    Ok mate. I have no bias

    Which is the problem. Everyone has bias because it’s a natural human function. People who think they don’t are more susceptible to being led astray because they lack self awareness. 
    What a load of crap. Lack of self awareness.  Dear lord. Thats pathetic 
    Kudos to you on being able to over-come normal functioning and shutting down that part of your brain. 
    I dont get what your purpose is. Im happy to conversate  and learn or whatever  but again you dont seem capable.  Most people  talk and share without  being an idiot about it. 


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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,069
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    They are both saying  very similar  i just  read that harvard one. Did you listen  to the  Australian?
    No I'm at work,  I can't watch a video. But wouldnt to be honest.  I consume information by reading.  

    She is concluding that mRNA is safe and the future of vaccines.  In fact,  she concluded its safer than traditional vaccines and the foundational research for mRNA has been going for two decades,  focused on SARS and MERS. If Australian is concluding the same,  then what's the issue here?
    Well ive read all that anyone  has suggested im happy to learn. But if you are arguing  a point without  even looking at what ive tried to add how does that  work.  I will leave you  to it.


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  • AW124797
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    Busy day at work, but I'll drop this fake tweet here quickly. Fits perfectly. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    AW124797 said:
    Busy day at work, but I'll drop this fake tweet here quickly. Fits perfectly. 
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  • mrussel1
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    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    They are both saying  very similar  i just  read that harvard one. Did you listen  to the  Australian?
    No I'm at work,  I can't watch a video. But wouldnt to be honest.  I consume information by reading.  

    She is concluding that mRNA is safe and the future of vaccines.  In fact,  she concluded its safer than traditional vaccines and the foundational research for mRNA has been going for two decades,  focused on SARS and MERS. If Australian is concluding the same,  then what's the issue here?
    Well ive read all that anyone  has suggested im happy to learn. But if you are arguing  a point without  even looking at what ive tried to add how does that  work.  I will leave you  to it.
    You can answer my question without me watching a video.  The Harvard girl says it's safer and more effective.  Is that Australian position? If not,  how do you decide who to listen to? If it is his position,  then why aren't you pro-mRNA?
  • Merkin Baller
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    Does Dr Natalia have a youtube channel? 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    edited January 2023
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity  is by far the  best thing.  Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these  boosters is beyond me.
    That because your information sources are biased. 
    Ok mate. I have no bias

    Which is the problem. Everyone has bias because it’s a natural human function. People who think they don’t are more susceptible to being led astray because they lack self awareness. 
    What a load of crap. Lack of self awareness.  Dear lord. Thats pathetic 
    Kudos to you on being able to over-come normal functioning and shutting down that part of your brain. 
    I dont get what your purpose is. Im happy to conversate  and learn or whatever  but again you dont seem capable.  Most people  talk and share without  being an idiot about it. 
    I’m totally capable of conversing, and bias is part of the conversation, so try not to flip this around on me as some sort of deficiency on my part. The last 3 years has been an immersed experience in people’s biases. Now we’re in the phase where people are trying to over-state vaccine risks and by way of confirmation bias, will grasp on to any single item to convince themselves the vaccines are dangerous. 


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  • AW124797
    AW124797 Posts: 763
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity  is by far the  best thing.  Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these  boosters is beyond me.
    That because your information sources are biased. 
    Ok mate. I have no bias

    Which is the problem. Everyone has bias because it’s a natural human function. People who think they don’t are more susceptible to being led astray because they lack self awareness. 
    What a load of crap. Lack of self awareness.  Dear lord. Thats pathetic 
    Kudos to you on being able to over-come normal functioning and shutting down that part of your brain. 
    I dont get what your purpose is. Im happy to conversate  and learn or whatever  but again you dont seem capable.  Most people  talk and share without  being an idiot about it. 
    I’m totally capable of conversing, and bias is part of the conversation, so try not to flip this around on me as some sort of deficiency on my part. The last 3 tears has been an immersed experience in people’s biases. Now we’re in the phase where people are trying to over-state vaccine risks and by way of confirmation bias, will grasp on to any single item to convince themselves the vaccines are dangerous. 


    Best thread ever. 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,069
    edited January 2023
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    They are both saying  very similar  i just  read that harvard one. Did you listen  to the  Australian?
    No I'm at work,  I can't watch a video. But wouldnt to be honest.  I consume information by reading.  

    She is concluding that mRNA is safe and the future of vaccines.  In fact,  she concluded its safer than traditional vaccines and the foundational research for mRNA has been going for two decades,  focused on SARS and MERS. If Australian is concluding the same,  then what's the issue here?
    Well ive read all that anyone  has suggested im happy to learn. But if you are arguing  a point without  even looking at what ive tried to add how does that  work.  I will leave you  to it.
    You can answer my question without me watching a video.  The Harvard girl says it's safer and more effective.  Is that Australian position? If not,  how do you decide who to listen to? If it is his position,  then why aren't you pro-mRNA?
    I think  as a cure it has merit when dialed into a persons direct need i.e cancer. As a preventative it has risks that  may out weigh benefit in the young. I think this  is where i am. And asking me what he said...listen for yourself. I was willing to read all your links
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,069
    I will  leave it at that.  That is where i am


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,982
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    mrussel1 said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    They are both saying  very similar  i just  read that harvard one. Did you listen  to the  Australian?
    No I'm at work,  I can't watch a video. But wouldnt to be honest.  I consume information by reading.  

    She is concluding that mRNA is safe and the future of vaccines.  In fact,  she concluded its safer than traditional vaccines and the foundational research for mRNA has been going for two decades,  focused on SARS and MERS. If Australian is concluding the same,  then what's the issue here?
    Well ive read all that anyone  has suggested im happy to learn. But if you are arguing  a point without  even looking at what ive tried to add how does that  work.  I will leave you  to it.
    You can answer my question without me watching a video.  The Harvard girl says it's safer and more effective.  Is that Australian position? If not,  how do you decide who to listen to? If it is his position,  then why aren't you pro-mRNA?
    I think  as a cure it has merit when dialed into a persons direct need i.e cancer. As a preventative it has risks that  may out weigh benefit in the young
    I've already agreed that a parent should weigh the benefit today,  as we move into less dangerous strains.  But you're avoiding the question with this cancer deflection.  Let me be direct:

    1. Do you think mRNA is dangerous as a vaccine?

    2.  Do you think some members of the population (high risk,  elderly,  immunocomoromised) should take the vaccine or do you think it is too dangerous?
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,069
    edited January 2023
    1. Yes 
    2. Yes
    And i add i have had one myself 


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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    AW124797 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity  is by far the  best thing.  Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these  boosters is beyond me.
    That because your information sources are biased. 
    Ok mate. I have no bias

    Which is the problem. Everyone has bias because it’s a natural human function. People who think they don’t are more susceptible to being led astray because they lack self awareness. 
    What a load of crap. Lack of self awareness.  Dear lord. Thats pathetic 
    Kudos to you on being able to over-come normal functioning and shutting down that part of your brain. 
    I dont get what your purpose is. Im happy to conversate  and learn or whatever  but again you dont seem capable.  Most people  talk and share without  being an idiot about it. 
    I’m totally capable of conversing, and bias is part of the conversation, so try not to flip this around on me as some sort of deficiency on my part. The last 3 tears has been an immersed experience in people’s biases. Now we’re in the phase where people are trying to over-state vaccine risks and by way of confirmation bias, will grasp on to any single item to convince themselves the vaccines are dangerous. 


    Best thread ever. 
    Don’t know about that. The Boston puker thread was pretty good. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,240
    Go Beavers said:
    AW124797 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Go Beavers said:
    lastexitlondon said:
    Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity  is by far the  best thing.  Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these  boosters is beyond me.
    That because your information sources are biased. 
    Ok mate. I have no bias

    Which is the problem. Everyone has bias because it’s a natural human function. People who think they don’t are more susceptible to being led astray because they lack self awareness. 
    What a load of crap. Lack of self awareness.  Dear lord. Thats pathetic 
    Kudos to you on being able to over-come normal functioning and shutting down that part of your brain. 
    I dont get what your purpose is. Im happy to conversate  and learn or whatever  but again you dont seem capable.  Most people  talk and share without  being an idiot about it. 
    I’m totally capable of conversing, and bias is part of the conversation, so try not to flip this around on me as some sort of deficiency on my part. The last 3 tears has been an immersed experience in people’s biases. Now we’re in the phase where people are trying to over-state vaccine risks and by way of confirmation bias, will grasp on to any single item to convince themselves the vaccines are dangerous. 


    Best thread ever. 
    Don’t know about that. The Boston puker thread was pretty good. 
    That thread is by far the best ever of the interwebs. Anniversary is coming too.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,982
    lastexitlondon said:
    1. Yes 
    2. Yes
    And i add i have had one myself 
    Ok considering the Harvard girl said it's safe,  heavily researched and tested over 20 years,  why do you think it's dangerous?


  • jwhjr17
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    lastexitlondon said:
    I will  leave it at that.  That is where I am
    Promise?  You've already posted since :grin: Actually I'm glad you keep posting as it keeps the circle moving.
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  • OnWis97
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    AW124797 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    I’m still waiting for how many is too many. 
    6th booster is too many.
    I'm sympathetic to the opposing argument and I've had four and haven't decided whether to get more, but where do you come up with this number?
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