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  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    nicknyr15 said:
    Man, china seems like a fun place right now. 
    Gross. 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,872
    And for his 18th birthday, my son got a positive Covid test.
    And of course, wife and I were in car with him for about 10 hours between Friday and Saturday.
    He started to exhibit cold symptoms Friday (his birthday no less) while we were driving to Burlington VT for a college visit, tested him when we got home Saturday night, he is positive. So far wife and I are negative.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,559
    Poncier said:
    And for his 18th birthday, my son got a positive Covid test.
    And of course, wife and I were in car with him for about 10 hours between Friday and Saturday.
    He started to exhibit cold symptoms Friday (his birthday no less) while we were driving to Burlington VT for a college visit, tested him when we got home Saturday night, he is positive. So far wife and I are negative.
    Damn hope he feels better soon! I’m getting the 2nd booster I’m 61 this virus is here for good! 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,872
    Poncier said:
    And for his 18th birthday, my son got a positive Covid test.
    And of course, wife and I were in car with him for about 10 hours between Friday and Saturday.
    He started to exhibit cold symptoms Friday (his birthday no less) while we were driving to Burlington VT for a college visit, tested him when we got home Saturday night, he is positive. So far wife and I are negative.
    Damn hope he feels better soon! I’m getting the 2nd booster I’m 61 this virus is here for good! 
    Thanks Jose.
    He's doing pretty well; don't think it'll be anything serious (certainly hope not) with him.
     3 years ago, it would have been, "you have a mild cold, drink some juice and get some extra rest".
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,993
    Anyone else following this "COVID-Zero" lockdown in Shanghai, China? It's insane how those people are being treated. 
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,215
    Anyone else following this "COVID-Zero" lockdown in Shanghai, China? It's insane how those people are being treated. 
    Absolutely insane. I touched on it a few days ago here. No one seems interested in it. 
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,993
    edited April 2022
    nicknyr15 said:
    Anyone else following this "COVID-Zero" lockdown in Shanghai, China? It's insane how those people are being treated. 
    Absolutely insane. I touched on it a few days ago here. No one seems interested in it. 

    It's crazy. 26 million people on lockdown. People are literally starving. The military is all over preventing people from going out. And a CNN reporter reported that government officials are locking people in their own apartments. Here's some videos...

    This guy is basically speaking for everyone....


    People screaming at night as their locked in their apartments, many presumably with no food....


    A scene right out of an Orwell novel where a drone advises people to stay in their homes...




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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,215
    nicknyr15 said:
    Anyone else following this "COVID-Zero" lockdown in Shanghai, China? It's insane how those people are being treated. 
    Absolutely insane. I touched on it a few days ago here. No one seems interested in it. 

    It's crazy. 26 million people on lockdown. People are literally starving. The military is all over preventing people from going out. And a CNN reporter reported that government officials are locking people in their own apartments. Here's some videos...

    This guy is basically speaking for everyone....


    People screaming at night as their locked in their apartments, many presumably with no food....


    A scene right out of an Orwell novel where a drone advises people to stay in their homes...




    Disgusting. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,451
    that last video is shit right out of 1984. holy fuck. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,993
    that last video is shit right out of 1984. holy fuck. 
    That book is a warning for most.....but a blueprint for some. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,069
    nicknyr15 said:
    Anyone else following this "COVID-Zero" lockdown in Shanghai, China? It's insane how those people are being treated. 
    Absolutely insane. I touched on it a few days ago here. No one seems interested in it. 
     I think people would prefer to ignore Shanghai, because it hits close to the bone of what people who were against masks and lockdowns were worried about happening here.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    static111 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Anyone else following this "COVID-Zero" lockdown in Shanghai, China? It's insane how those people are being treated. 
    Absolutely insane. I touched on it a few days ago here. No one seems interested in it. 
     I think people would prefer to ignore Shanghai, because it hits close to the bone of what people who were against masks and lockdowns were worried about happening here.
    Or... and stay with me here... none of us are surprised because it's China and China is a totalitarian society.  So when totalitarians act in a way that eliminates freedom and doesn't respect basic civil rights, we're not surprised.  I think your conclusion is far afield. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,451
    a friend of mine lives in China. he moved there temporarily to teach english as a second language, then ended up meeting and marrying a local. he will go dark on social media for months at a time; not an option. the government just blocked citizens' access to the outside world. and that's the minor shit that goes on there. so while my heart goes out to people there, I don't find what's going on surprising in the least, and just tends to make the "freedom convoy" bullshit all the more laughable. calling Trudeau a dictator is so incredibly ridiculous given what an actual dictator does. 
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  • mickeyrat
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    It's not over: COVID-19 cases are on the rise again in US
    By LAURA UNGAR
    28 mins ago

    Yet again, the U.S. is trudging into what could be another COVID-19 surge, with cases rising nationally and in most states after a two-month decline.

    One big unknown? “We don’t know how high that mountain’s gonna grow,” said Dr. Stuart Campbell Ray, an infectious disease expert at Johns Hopkins University.

    No one expects a peak nearly as high as the last one, when the contagious omicron version of the coronavirus ripped through the population.

    But experts warn that the coming wave – caused by a mutant called BA.2 that’s thought to be about 30% more contagious – will wash across the nation. They worry that hospitalizations, which are already ticking up in some parts of the Northeast, will rise in a growing number of states in the coming weeks. And the case wave will be bigger than it looks, they say, because reported numbers are vast undercounts as more people test at home without reporting their infections or skip testing altogether.

    At the height of the previous omicron surge, reported daily cases reached into the hundreds of thousands. As of Thursday, the seven-day rolling average for daily new cases rose to 39,521, up from 30,724 two weeks earlier, according to data from Johns Hopkins collected by The Associated Press.

    Dr. Eric Topol, head of Scripps Research Translational Institute, said the numbers will likely keep growing until the surge reaches about a quarter the height of the last “monstrous” one. BA.2 may well have the same effect in the U.S. as it did in Israel, where it created a “bump" in the chart measuring cases, he said.

    Keeping the surge somewhat in check, experts said, is a higher level of immunity in the U.S. from vaccination or past infection compared with early winter.

    But Ray said the U.S. could wind up looking like Europe, where the BA.2 surge was “substantial" in some places that had comparable levels of immunity. “We could have a substantial surge here,” he said.

    Both experts said BA.2 will move through the country gradually. The Northeast has been hit hardest so far — with more than 90% of new infections caused by BA.2 last week compared with 86% nationally. As of Thursday, the highest rates of new COVID cases per capita over the past 14 days were in Vermont, Rhode Island, Alaska, New York and Massachusetts. In Washington, D.C., which also ranks in the top 10 for rates of new cases, Howard University announced it was moving most undergraduate classes online for the rest of the semester because of “a significant increase in COVID-19 positivity” in the district and on campus.

    Some states, such as Rhode Island and New Hampshire, saw the average of daily new cases rise by more than 100% in two weeks, according to Johns Hopkins data.

    In New Hampshire, the increase in cases comes two weeks after the closure of all 11 state-managed vaccination sites, and the governor is being pressured by some advocates to reverse course.

    Joseph Wendelken, spokesperson for the Rhode Island Department of Health, said the metric they are most focused on right now is hospitalizations, which remain relatively low. About 55 COVID-19 patients are hospitalized, compared with more than 600 at one point in the pandemic.

    Officials credit high vaccination rates. State statistics show 99% of Rhode Island adults are at least partially vaccinated and 48% have gotten the booster dose that scientists say is key in protecting against severe illness with omicron.

    Vermont also has relatively high levels of vaccination and fewer patients in the hospital than during the height of the first omicron wave. But Dr. Mark Levine, the health commissioner there, said hospitalizations and the numbers of patients in intensive care units are both up slightly, although deaths have not risen.

    Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows that new hospital admissions of patients with confirmed COVID-19 were up slightly in New England and the New York region.

    On the West Coast, modelers from Oregon Health & Science University are projecting a slight increase in hospitalizations over the next two months in that state, where cases have also risen steeply.

    As the wave moves across the country, experts said states with low rates of vaccination may face substantially more infections and severe cases that wind up in the hospital.

    Ray said government leaders must be careful to strike the right tone when talking to people about protecting themselves and others after COVID restrictions have largely been lifted. Philadelphia recently became the first major U.S. city to reinstate its indoor mask mandate after a sharp increase in infections. But Vermont's Levine said there are no plans to bring back any of the restrictions that were imposed earlier during the pandemic.

    “It’s going to be hard to institute restrictive, draconian measures,” Ray said. “Fortunately, we have some tools that we can use to mitigate risk. And so I hope that leaders will emphasize the importance for people to watch the numbers,” be aware of risks and consider taking precautions such as wearing masks and getting vaccinated and boosted if they're not already.

    Lynne Richmond, a 59-year-old breast cancer survivor who lives in Silver Spring, Md., said she plans to get her second booster and keep wearing her mask in public as cases rise in her state and nearby Washington, D.C.

    “I never really stopped wearing my mask…I’ve stayed ultra-vigilant,” she said. “I feel like I’ve come this far; I don’t want to get COVID.”

    At the 250-bed New Hampshire Veterans Home in Tilton, staff are still wearing masks and social distancing. Veterans are allowed limited excursions to places like an antique race car museum and restaurants where they can have a separate room and the wait staff is masked.

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  • mickeyrat
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    Anti-virus shutdowns in China spread as infections rise
    By JOE McDONALD
    Today

    BEIJING (AP) — Anti-virus controls that have shut down some of China’s biggest cities and fueled public irritation are spreading as infections rise, hurting a weak economy and prompting warnings of possible global shockwaves.

    Shanghai is easing rules that confined most of its 25 million people to their homes after complaints they had trouble getting food. But most of its businesses still are closed. Access to Guangzhou, an industrial center of 19 million people near Hong Kong, was suspended this week. Other cities are cutting off access or closing factories and schools.

    Spring planting by Chinese farmers who feed 1.4 billion people might be disrupted, Nomura economists warned Thursday. That could boost demand for imported wheat and other food, pushing up already high global prices.

    The closures are an embarrassment to the ruling Communist Party and a setback for official efforts to shore up slumping growth in the world’s second-largest economy. They come during a sensitive year when President Xi Jinping is expected to try to break with tradition and award himself a third five-year term as leader.

    Beijing has promised to reduce the human and economic cost of its “zero-COVID” strategy, but Xi on Wednesday ruled out joining the United States and other governments that are dropping restrictions and trying to live with the virus.

    “Prevention and control work cannot be relaxed,” Xi said, according to the official Xinhua News Agency. “Persistence is victory.”

    The risk that China might tumble into recession is increasing, Ting Lu, Jing Wang and Harrison Zhang of Nomura warned in a report.

    “The logistics crunch is worsening,” they said. “The markets should also be concerned about the delayed spring planting of grain in China.”

    The government reported 29,411 new cases Thursday, all but 3,020 with no symptoms. Shanghai accounted for 95% of that total, or 27,719 cases. All but 2,573 had no symptoms.

    A health official warned Wednesday that Shanghai didn’t have the virus under control despite its easing restrictions.

    Some 6.6 million people were allowed to leave their homes in areas that had no new cases for at least a week. But at least 15 million others still are barred from going outdoors.

    Most people have obeyed despite grumbling about shortages of food, medicine and access to elderly relatives who need help. But videos on the popular Sina Weibo social media service show some trading punches with police.

    Grape Chen, a data analyst in Shanghai, said she was panicking about getting medicines for her father, who is recovering from a stroke. She called police after getting no response from an official hotline but was told quarantine rules bar officers from helping.

    “We are willing to cooperate with the country,” Chen said. “But we also hope that our lives can be respected.”

    The city government of Suzhou, a center for smartphone manufacturing and other high-tech industry west of Shanghai, told its 18 million people to stay home when possible.

    Taiyuan, a blue-collar city of 4 million in central China, suspended inter-city bus service, according to the official China News Service. Ningde in the southeast barred residents from leaving.

    A restaurant cook in Taiyuan said his family has been confined to their apartment compound since April 3 after cases were found in neighboring compounds.

    “Our lives will be seriously affected if the restrictions last long,” said the cook, who would give only his surname, Chen.

    “My wife and I are earning nothing,” Chen said. “We have three children to support.”

    All but 13 of China’s 100 biggest cities by economic output are under some form of restrictions, according to Gavekal Dragonomics, a research firm.

    “The intensity is increasing,” Gavekal said in a report this week.

    The volume of cargo handled by the Shanghai port, the world’s busiest, has fallen 40%, according to an estimate by the European Union Chamber of Commerce in China. Automakers have suspended production due to disruption in deliveries of supplies.

    Restrictions on areas that produce the world's smartphones, consumer electronics and other goods are prompting forecasters to cut expectations for this year's economic growth to as low as 5%, down sharply from last year's 8.1% expansion.

    The ruling party’s target is 5.5%. Growth slid to 4% over a year earlier in the final quarter of 2021 after tighter official controls on debt triggered a collapse in home sales and construction, industries that support millions of jobs.

    Even before the latest shutdowns, the ruling party was promising tax refunds and other help for entrepreneurs who generate wealth and jobs.

    Premier Li Keqiang, the No. 2 leader and top economic official, called this week for “quicker rollout” of aid for businesses that face a “key juncture for survival,” China News Service reported.

    Under a strategy dubbed “dynamic clearing,” authorities are trying to use more targeted measures to isolate neighborhoods instead of whole cities with populations bigger than some countries. But some local leaders are imposing more sweeping controls.

    Shanghai leaders were criticized for trying to minimize economic damage by ordering testing but no shutdown once cases were found last month. A citywide shutdown was ordered with only a few hours' warning after case numbers soared.

    That was in contrast to Shenzhen, a tech and finance center of 17.5 million people near Hong Kong that closed the city March 13 after an outbreak and ordered mass testing. It reopened a week later and business returned to normal.

    Guangzhou has imitated Shenzhen. Most access to the city of 19 million was suspended Monday and mass testing ordered after 27 infections were found.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    What China needs is a freedom convoy.
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  • dankind
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  • brianlux
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    China is certainly proving that the U.S. is not the only country that has politicized the virus. 

    Meanwhile, here in the good old yippee io ki yay wild west Trumpdorado County, California, masks are a thing of the past... except for a few of those pinko commie left wing radicals who still wear them... like me.  But the freedumb lovers know better so, hey, off with the masks!  Oh, except that these yahoos that a very good friend of mine has to work with might be/ probably are the reason why this friend is now suffering with a bad case of COVID.  Thanks a lot, brodozer cowboys.





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