^^I posted this video about two months ago..she laughs in our faces..
I'll summarize for those that missed it: "Was covid vaccine tested on stopping transmission before it entered the market?" "No, haha. Silly thing to ask, speed of science, blah, blah, blah"
Funny because I just referenced this. He didn’t admit to anything because it was publicly available that Pfizer tested for respiratory infection and not just a positive test result. I think anyone who claimed they were asking questions would’ve seen this. It’s also how pre-Covid we identified being sick. No one stayed home from work when they had seasonal flu but were asymptomatic. And since you’re less likely to spread Covid when vacvinated, you are doing it for otgers.
Now there is a variant that will infect every person regardless of vaccine or none Previous infection or not. So it all matters not
Do you count someone who’s asymptomatic as an infection?
you should. they're contagious arent they?
My question brings up the shift around what is considered an infection. Pre-Covid, people had the seasonal flu but were asymptomatic, and you weren’t considered sick because there wasn’t testing mania. So the downside is that anti-vaxxers have grasped onto asymptomatic cases as some sort of evidence that the vaccine doesn’t work.
Another related issue is that in the vaccine trials, Pfizer measured effectiveness by looking at respiratory infection, and now two years later people claim they were lied to because of asymptomatic infections happening, but that wasn’t the measurement for efficacy. So when london says everyone will get infected and it doesn’t matter, it’s again an attempt to diminish vaccine effectiveness, which is reduction of severity and not whether or not someone tested positive.
False im not diminishing vaccine. Asymptomatic is still an infection i agree
Those numbers may still underestimate the toll, though the government said the “emergency peak" of its latest surge appears to have passed.
The toll included 5,503 deaths due to respiratory failure caused by COVID-19 and 54,435 fatalities from other ailments combined with COVID-19 since Dec. 8, the National Health Commission announced. It said those “deaths related to COVID” occurred in hospitals, which means anyone who died at home would not be included in the numbers.
The report would more than double China’s official COVID-19 death toll to 10,775 since the disease was first detected in the central city of Wuhan in late 2019. China has counted only deaths from pneumonia or respiratory failure in its official COVID-19 death toll, a narrow definition that excludes many deaths that would be attributed to COVID-19 in much of the world.
China stopped reporting data on COVID-19 deaths and infections after abruptly lifting anti-virus controls in early December despite a surge in infections that began in October and has filled hospitals with feverish, wheezing patients. Hospitals in Beijing across the country have been overwhelmed with patients, and funeral homes and crematoriums have struggled to handle the dead.
The World Health Organization and other governments appealed for information after reports by city and provincial governments suggested as many as hundreds of millions of people in China might have contracted the virus.
Infection numbers now appear to be falling based on a decline in the number of patients visiting fever clinics, said a National Health Commission official, Jiao Yahui.
The daily number of people going to those clinics peaked at 2.9 million on Dec. 23 and had fallen by 83% to to 477,000 on Thursday, according to Jiao.
“These data show the national emergency peak has passed,” Jiao said at a news conference.
The number of COVID-19 deaths China is reporting may be a “significant underestimation” because of how they define them, according to Dr. Albert Ko, an infectious disease physician and professor of public health at the Yale School of Public Health.
“They’re using a very narrow case definition for (COVID) deaths,” Ko said. “They have to have respiratory failure ... in order to be counted as a case you have to be at a place where they can say you fulfilled all the requirements, and that’s at a hospital.”
Hospitals in China, Ko said, are located mostly in large cities where COVID outbreaks have been reported, not in isolated rural areas.
“This is the Lunar New Year, people are traveling, going to the countryside where the population is vulnerable,” Ko said. “We’re really worried about what’s going to happen in China as this outbreak moves to the countryside.”
For nearly three years, China had kept its infection rate and deaths far lower than those of the United States and some other countries at the height of the pandemic with a “zero-COVID” strategy that aimed to isolate every case. That shut down access to some cities, kept millions of people at home and sparked angry protests.
Those rules were suddenly eased in early December after some of the largest shows of public dissent against the ruling Communist Party in more than 30 years. That set off new problems in a country that relies on domestically developed vaccines that are less reliable than others used globally, and where older people — those more susceptible to dying from the virus — are less likely to be vaccinated than the general population.
The Health Commission said the average age of people who died since Dec. 8 is 80.3 years, and 90.1% are aged 65 and above. It said more than 90% of people who died had cancer, heart or lung diseases or kidney problems.
“The number of elderly patients dying from illness is relatively large, which suggests that we should pay more attention to elderly patients and try our best to save their lives,” said Jiao.
The United States, South Korea, Japan and several other countries have imposed virus testing and other controls on people arriving from China. Beijing retaliated on Wednesday by suspending issuance of new visas to travelers from South Korea and Japan.
This month, WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said agency officials met with Chinese officials to underline the importance of sharing more details about COVID-19 issues, including hospitalization rates and genetic sequences.
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Associated Press writer Ken Miller contributed to this report from Oklahoma City.
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How Dare you share something from Fox News on this Forum….Shame on you!!! Lol. God this place is getting so fun to check in on….Rotten Brains are exploding all over, and it stinks like a moldy hypocrisy sandwhich w/ extra mayo.
How Dare you share something from Fox News on this Forum….Shame on you!!! Lol. God this place is getting so fun to check in on….Rotten Brains are exploding all over, and it stinks like a moldy hypocrisy sandwhich w/ extra mayo.
Beats having rotten Brians exploding all over the place!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Funny because I just referenced this. He didn’t admit to anything because it was publicly available that Pfizer tested for respiratory infection and not just a positive test result. I think anyone who claimed they were asking questions would’ve seen this. It’s also how pre-Covid we identified being sick. No one stayed home from work when they had seasonal flu but were asymptomatic. And since you’re less likely to spread Covid when vacvinated, you are doing it for otgers.
He didn't testify because it was publicly available? Please. I think you can spin it better than that. Also, how are you still in the denial stage? Covid vaccine doesn't prevent infection nor transmission. Where have you been?
How Dare you share something from Fox News on this Forum….Shame on you!!! Lol. God this place is getting so fun to check in on….Rotten Brains are exploding all over, and it stinks like a moldy hypocrisy sandwhich w/ extra mayo.
I had something from CNN on Friday. Balance is always good.
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I had something from CNN on Friday. Balance is always good.
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I had something from CNN on Friday. Balance is always good.
How many is too many?
I shared a link from CNN on Friday. What are you asking?
Funny because I just referenced this. He didn’t admit to anything because it was publicly available that Pfizer tested for respiratory infection and not just a positive test result. I think anyone who claimed they were asking questions would’ve seen this. It’s also how pre-Covid we identified being sick. No one stayed home from work when they had seasonal flu but were asymptomatic. And since you’re less likely to spread Covid when vacvinated, you are doing it for otgers.
normally, this video should piss you off..
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And to add my father got diagnosed with liver cancer and his brother bone cancer around a year and a half ago. They are both dead now. But my dad was given some immunology treatment that was specifically for his cancer and it worked for a few months at least. I also know a lady being kept alive with that treatment it definitely has a place in cancer often there is certain death so why not ?
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Too many individuals with severe reactions. It's not rare. Where there's smoke, there's fire.
How many is too many?
How many is acceptable for your liberal narrative?
36 of 1,000,000 doesn’t frighten me.
I know somewhere between 70-90 people between family, extended family, friends and their families, etc. Well over 100+ when you add co-workers and water cooler talk of their families and friends, etc. Every single person has been vaccinated and boosted, most per their employer. They range in age from 8 to 90. Not one of them had a severe reaction or died. Some, including myself, caught Covid. None ended up hospitalized or with severe illness.
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"No, haha. Silly thing to ask, speed of science, blah, blah, blah"
BEIJING (AP) — China on Saturday reported nearly 60,000 deaths in people who had COVID-19 since early December, offering hard numbers for an unprecedented surge that was apparent in overcrowded hospitals and packed crematoriums, even as the government released little data about the status of the pandemic for weeks.
Those numbers may still underestimate the toll, though the government said the “emergency peak" of its latest surge appears to have passed.
The toll included 5,503 deaths due to respiratory failure caused by COVID-19 and 54,435 fatalities from other ailments combined with COVID-19 since Dec. 8, the National Health Commission announced. It said those “deaths related to COVID” occurred in hospitals, which means anyone who died at home would not be included in the numbers.
The report would more than double China’s official COVID-19 death toll to 10,775 since the disease was first detected in the central city of Wuhan in late 2019. China has counted only deaths from pneumonia or respiratory failure in its official COVID-19 death toll, a narrow definition that excludes many deaths that would be attributed to COVID-19 in much of the world.
China stopped reporting data on COVID-19 deaths and infections after abruptly lifting anti-virus controls in early December despite a surge in infections that began in October and has filled hospitals with feverish, wheezing patients. Hospitals in Beijing across the country have been overwhelmed with patients, and funeral homes and crematoriums have struggled to handle the dead.
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The World Health Organization and other governments appealed for information after reports by city and provincial governments suggested as many as hundreds of millions of people in China might have contracted the virus.
Infection numbers now appear to be falling based on a decline in the number of patients visiting fever clinics, said a National Health Commission official, Jiao Yahui.
The daily number of people going to those clinics peaked at 2.9 million on Dec. 23 and had fallen by 83% to to 477,000 on Thursday, according to Jiao.
“These data show the national emergency peak has passed,” Jiao said at a news conference.
The number of COVID-19 deaths China is reporting may be a “significant underestimation” because of how they define them, according to Dr. Albert Ko, an infectious disease physician and professor of public health at the Yale School of Public Health.
“They’re using a very narrow case definition for (COVID) deaths,” Ko said. “They have to have respiratory failure ... in order to be counted as a case you have to be at a place where they can say you fulfilled all the requirements, and that’s at a hospital.”
Hospitals in China, Ko said, are located mostly in large cities where COVID outbreaks have been reported, not in isolated rural areas.
“This is the Lunar New Year, people are traveling, going to the countryside where the population is vulnerable,” Ko said. “We’re really worried about what’s going to happen in China as this outbreak moves to the countryside.”
For nearly three years, China had kept its infection rate and deaths far lower than those of the United States and some other countries at the height of the pandemic with a “zero-COVID” strategy that aimed to isolate every case. That shut down access to some cities, kept millions of people at home and sparked angry protests.
Those rules were suddenly eased in early December after some of the largest shows of public dissent against the ruling Communist Party in more than 30 years. That set off new problems in a country that relies on domestically developed vaccines that are less reliable than others used globally, and where older people — those more susceptible to dying from the virus — are less likely to be vaccinated than the general population.
The Health Commission said the average age of people who died since Dec. 8 is 80.3 years, and 90.1% are aged 65 and above. It said more than 90% of people who died had cancer, heart or lung diseases or kidney problems.
“The number of elderly patients dying from illness is relatively large, which suggests that we should pay more attention to elderly patients and try our best to save their lives,” said Jiao.
The United States, South Korea, Japan and several other countries have imposed virus testing and other controls on people arriving from China. Beijing retaliated on Wednesday by suspending issuance of new visas to travelers from South Korea and Japan.
This month, WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said agency officials met with Chinese officials to underline the importance of sharing more details about COVID-19 issues, including hospitalization rates and genetic sequences.
___
Associated Press writer Ken Miller contributed to this report from Oklahoma City.
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I know somewhere between 70-90 people between family, extended family, friends and their families, etc. Well over 100+ when you add co-workers and water cooler talk of their families and friends, etc. Every single person has been vaccinated and boosted, most per their employer. They range in age from 8 to 90. Not one of them had a severe reaction or died. Some, including myself, caught Covid. None ended up hospitalized or with severe illness.
Guess the vaccine is safe and effective, eh?
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