Fan to Fan Ticket Exchange

Lerxst1992 · April 2022

About ten years ago, TM had an interesting option for a different band, one who may not have sold out 100% every show, but usually close to a sell out at a minimum. But close seats were impossible/expensive for back then.

TM listed a bunch of great seats, and we put in a blind bid and checked off which batch of seats desired. That seems to be a really fair way of attaining a market price, as the seller must sell as long as the posted minimum bid was reached.

Wolf359 · April 2022

Are there any alternatives for selling tix? I have tix for both nights of Oakland but I'm not sure i'll be able to make it. What are my best options for getting them into the hands of a PJ fan if I cannot make it? F2F is still not yet open--do we have any idea when it will open? I cant wait until the week of the show, that seems ridiculous.

cmalisze · April 2022

Wolf359 said:

Are there any alternatives for selling tix? I have tix for both nights of Oakland but I'm not sure i'll be able to make it. What are my best options for getting them into the hands of a PJ fan if I cannot make it? F2F is still not yet open--do we have any idea when it will open? I cant wait until the week of the show, that seems ridiculous.

I need Oakland. May I ask where the seats are?

Wolf359 · April 2022

cmalisze said:

Wolf359 said:

Are there any alternatives for selling tix? I have tix for both nights of Oakland but I'm not sure i'll be able to make it. What are my best options for getting them into the hands of a PJ fan if I cannot make it? F2F is still not yet open--do we have any idea when it will open? I cant wait until the week of the show, that seems ridiculous.

I need Oakland. May I ask where the seats are?

Oak1 is 105 and Oak2 is PIT

GTFLYGIRL · April 2022

F2F makes me very sad. Life changes and now I am sitting on tickets i cant use... I.want them out of my hands....so i know the money will be coming back to me. On the other hand, I am now, also, in need of other tickets. Why would i even consider some hyper inflated tickets i cant afford when i know ill be able to pick one up in fan to fan..?

It makes me sad, because.im starting to worry the system will.not work effectively and just like with the Earthlings shows... there will be people desperate for tickets... while others eat perfectly good seats. TM NEEDS TO OPEN F2F!!!!!!!!

on2legs · April 2022

GTFLYGIRL said:

F2F makes me very sad. Life changes and now I am sitting on tickets i cant use... I.want them out of my hands....so i know the money will be coming back to me. On the other hand, I am now, also, in need of other tickets. Why would i even consider some hyper inflated tickets i cant afford when i know ill be able to pick one up in fan to fan..?

It makes me sad, because.im starting to worry the system will.not work effectively and just like with the Earthlings shows... there will be people desperate for tickets... while others eat perfectly good seats. TM NEEDS TO OPEN F2F!!!!!!!!

We’re only a couple weeks into spring…. Technically they have until late June to open the F2F. Hopefully it’s a lot sooner, but they did disclose all this when tickets went on sale.

JimmyV · April 2022

GTFLYGIRL said:

F2F makes me very sad. Life changes and now I am sitting on tickets i cant use... I.want them out of my hands....so i know the money will be coming back to me. On the other hand, I am now, also, in need of other tickets. Why would i even consider some hyper inflated tickets i cant afford when i know ill be able to pick one up in fan to fan..?

It makes me sad, because.im starting to worry the system will.not work effectively and just like with the Earthlings shows... there will be people desperate for tickets... while others eat perfectly good seats. TM NEEDS TO OPEN F2F!!!!!!!!

You are not wrong.

washed in black · April 2022

on2legs said:

GTFLYGIRL said:

F2F makes me very sad. Life changes and now I am sitting on tickets i cant use... I.want them out of my hands....so i know the money will be coming back to me. On the other hand, I am now, also, in need of other tickets. Why would i even consider some hyper inflated tickets i cant afford when i know ill be able to pick one up in fan to fan..?

It makes me sad, because.im starting to worry the system will.not work effectively and just like with the Earthlings shows... there will be people desperate for tickets... while others eat perfectly good seats. TM NEEDS TO OPEN F2F!!!!!!!!

We’re only a couple weeks into spring…. Technically they have until late June to open the F2F. Hopefully it’s a lot sooner, but they did disclose all this when tickets went on sale.

But that doesn't help those who have to sell or want to buy tix to shows in May. F2F needs to open now. This is so unfair.

on2legs · April 2022

washed in black said:

on2legs said:

GTFLYGIRL said:

F2F makes me very sad. Life changes and now I am sitting on tickets i cant use... I.want them out of my hands....so i know the money will be coming back to me. On the other hand, I am now, also, in need of other tickets. Why would i even consider some hyper inflated tickets i cant afford when i know ill be able to pick one up in fan to fan..?

It makes me sad, because.im starting to worry the system will.not work effectively and just like with the Earthlings shows... there will be people desperate for tickets... while others eat perfectly good seats. TM NEEDS TO OPEN F2F!!!!!!!!

We’re only a couple weeks into spring…. Technically they have until late June to open the F2F. Hopefully it’s a lot sooner, but they did disclose all this when tickets went on sale.

But that doesn't help those who have to sell or want to buy tix to shows in May. F2F needs to open now. This is so unfair.

Definitely does not help. Just saying it was pretty clearly stated when the tickets went on sale.

mpedone · April 2022

washed in black said:

on2legs said:

GTFLYGIRL said:

F2F makes me very sad. Life changes and now I am sitting on tickets i cant use... I.want them out of my hands....so i know the money will be coming back to me. On the other hand, I am now, also, in need of other tickets. Why would i even consider some hyper inflated tickets i cant afford when i know ill be able to pick one up in fan to fan..?

It makes me sad, because.im starting to worry the system will.not work effectively and just like with the Earthlings shows... there will be people desperate for tickets... while others eat perfectly good seats. TM NEEDS TO OPEN F2F!!!!!!!!

We’re only a couple weeks into spring…. Technically they have until late June to open the F2F. Hopefully it’s a lot sooner, but they did disclose all this when tickets went on sale.

But that doesn't help those who have to sell or want to buy tix to shows in May. F2F needs to open now. This is so unfair.

Take comfort that they said this spring, meaning 2022. Could have just said "the spring", which could be ANY year.

on2legs · April 2022

mpedone said:

washed in black said:

on2legs said:

GTFLYGIRL said:

F2F makes me very sad. Life changes and now I am sitting on tickets i cant use... I.want them out of my hands....so i know the money will be coming back to me. On the other hand, I am now, also, in need of other tickets. Why would i even consider some hyper inflated tickets i cant afford when i know ill be able to pick one up in fan to fan..?

It makes me sad, because.im starting to worry the system will.not work effectively and just like with the Earthlings shows... there will be people desperate for tickets... while others eat perfectly good seats. TM NEEDS TO OPEN F2F!!!!!!!!

We’re only a couple weeks into spring…. Technically they have until late June to open the F2F. Hopefully it’s a lot sooner, but they did disclose all this when tickets went on sale.

But that doesn't help those who have to sell or want to buy tix to shows in May. F2F needs to open now. This is so unfair.

Take comfort that they said this spring, meaning 2022. Could have just said "the spring", which could be ANY year.

Lol

dforster7 · April 2022

well, I've got tickets to SD show in May that I would give away if I could, but I only have tickets tied to my phone and can't transfer them.

DF220512 · April 2022

Long time lurker, but I'm going to post for fun. I agree with everything that has been said... but there is another perspective missing from this discussion. For decades, fan club members (not just of Pearl Jam, but other bands too) have used their early access/preferential treatment for tickets they knew they might not use (life could get in the way, they could score better seats through an alternate vendor, they could be used as trade-bait for shows they really wanted to get tickets to, etc.). Then, when tickets went on sale to the general public, non-fan club members didn't have access to those seats, still inflating the price of tickets on the secondary market against the band's wishes.

What TM and PJ are doing right now by inflating prices and by delaying us from "trading out" our tickets, will eventually render our seats worth less than face value closer to the show. This will have burned some of their fan club members (for this tour) who will be more cautious with what tickets they buy for future tours. With fan club members requesting less tickets, more will go on sale to the general public, lowering the cost of resale values (perhaps.)

Again, I type this as an angry fan who can't sell back tickets post-pandemic... but I do see how, in the long-term, it may fix two issues at the same time which ends up lowering prices and increasing availability for everyone... especially with as few tours these guys go on anymore.

droptheleash9 · April 2022

I know we're not "owed" or "entitled" to anything but it is getting VERY frustrating that they haven't opened the Fan2Fan Exchange yet. I'm not sure what the hold up is or if the band even knows (or cares quite frankly) but a little communication goes a long way. I would imagine it has something to do with the fact that PJ Premium has been a flop in a number of cities (mainly CA) and they don't want to allow F2F sales at face value until more of the premium seats are sold. I hope I'm wrong in assuming that and that it's just a case of them not having their act together vs trying to prevent some fans from buying/selling tickets just to pedal a few extra seats at higher prices.

Flavafraz · April 2022

Saw an interesting piece on John Oliver’s show about Ticketmaster an their practices. About only releasing 10% of tickets to public knowingly selling to ticket brokers even giving tickets back to artist to up sell on after market. It also praised Pj as the only band to do f2f for face value. Makes you wonder what the band had to negotiate to get so many tickets to fan club and to keep most tickets prices down other than Pj premium. It could be a lot worse with other artists

ddeschler · April 2022

John Oliver's piece was done pre-PJ Premium.

dforster7 · April 2022

Thanks for the above posts. I wasn't sure if I just wasn't going to the right place to do the F2F exchange. So at least now I know, its not just me. Hopefully F2F will come online before the SD show so at least some fan can get my seats. PJ has put in more effort than most, and while I appreciate the concept, it may be tilting at windmills.

cmalisze · April 2022

DF220512 said:

Long time lurker, but I'm going to post for fun. I agree with everything that has been said... but there is another perspective missing from this discussion. For decades, fan club members (not just of Pearl Jam, but other bands too) have used their early access/preferential treatment for tickets they knew they might not use (life could get in the way, they could score better seats through an alternate vendor, they could be used as trade-bait for shows they really wanted to get tickets to, etc.). Then, when tickets went on sale to the general public, non-fan club members didn't have access to those seats, still inflating the price of tickets on the secondary market against the band's wishes.

What TM and PJ are doing right now by inflating prices and by delaying us from "trading out" our tickets, will eventually render our seats worth less than face value closer to the show. This will have burned some of their fan club members (for this tour) who will be more cautious with what tickets they buy for future tours. With fan club members requesting less tickets, more will go on sale to the general public, lowering the cost of resale values (perhaps.)

Again, I type this as an angry fan who can't sell back tickets post-pandemic... but I do see how, in the long-term, it may fix two issues at the same time which ends up lowering prices and increasing availability for everyone... especially with as few tours these guys go on anymore.

Another point I've also considered. The remedy would be to limit requests to shows to zip codes within a certain perimeter. This would alleviate the nation-wide pressure per show for the reasons you've mentioned.

PureandEasy · April 2022

I'm completely naive to the fan to fan sale, why did you all purchase tickets to shows you can't go to and now want to sell??? I guess it's just never something I have done before so I have no clue. Seems to me blaming Ten Club for this is unjustified. Were you forced to buy these tickets?

aisleseats · April 2022

PureandEasy said:

I'm completely naive to the fan to fan sale, why did you all purchase tickets to shows you can't go to and now want to sell??? I guess it's just never something I have done before so I have no clue. Seems to me blaming Ten Club for this is unjustified. Were you forced to buy these tickets?

Keep in mind, a lot of us have had these tickets for over 2 years. We didn't even know when the shows were going to take place until recently. And then when we finally found out, we had like a week to decide if we could make the new dates or request a refund.

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