The Joe Rogan Thread

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Indifference said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    What I think we are forgetting here is that Joe Rogan is an idiot. As in dumb. 

    But maybe people who listen, love and are in here defending him knows that.

    I doubt the large percentage of people listening to him though - over the 1000000000 other podcasts available - understands that he is very, very stupid. 
    https://twitter.com/snowden/status/1487175300115054593?s=21
    Joe Rogan is far from dumb…
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    Indifference said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    What I think we are forgetting here is that Joe Rogan is an idiot. As in dumb. 

    But maybe people who listen, love and are in here defending him knows that.

    I doubt the large percentage of people listening to him though - over the 1000000000 other podcasts available - understands that he is very, very stupid. 
    https://twitter.com/snowden/status/1487175300115054593?s=21
    A strong opinion =/= A wrong opinion
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,486
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    musicismylife78 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    What I think we are forgetting here is that Joe Rogan is an idiot. As in dumb. 

    But maybe people who listen, love and are in here defending him knows that.

    I doubt the large percentage of people listening to him though - over the 1000000000 other podcasts available - understands that he is very, very stupid. 
    He;s no different than Trevor Noah, Colbert, Jon Stewart, Seth Meyers, Jimmy Kimmel, all of whom have open and at times outrageous political views.  Don Lemon is unbelievably irresponsible and incendiary, one sided, and gross, for example.  Or just reading HuffPo or WaPo or NY Times, you are bombarded with one sided views with a clear agenda.  I would guess the audience of people who are fans of those particular people and publications ALSO would apply in terms of what you just said.  I certainly wouldn't listen to or consume those people's products and entertainment, Id rather get more balanced and fair content, but obviously theres alot of people who enjoy it.  Same with Joe.  
    I don't know why you are making this into some american skewed rights vs left thing. 

    But anywho...

    What are these balanced and fair content you speak of? Mick Garris Post Mortem podcast? 
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  • nicknyr15
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    gimmesometruth27 said:
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    dignin said:
    So many Bro Jogans posting so many memes.

    They get so easily upset.


    Same could be said for the opposing side. People were posting graphs blaming joe for the stock decline the past week. Which couldn’t be further from the truth. But you know, if someone agrees they believe it without looking any further. Rogan fans and Neil fans are both acting like children over this. 
    still on that one i see.

    i asked you to explain the drop anc you said follow the market.

    have people been dropping spotify the last 3 weeks or not?
    It’s not my job to explain the drop. People automatically think something is true if they agree. When they don’t agree, they all of a sudden know how to use google. You accused me of calling you stupid, something that never happened and then I apologized if I made you feel that way. You never responded. Get over it. My post wasn’t about YOU. Im sure you weren’t the only person who shared that tweet like it was fact. 
    are people dropping spotify?

    yes or no.
    Do you follow the stock market? Are you well versed in the market? Have you followed the stock since it’s inception? 
    i, for one, do not give a shit about spotify's stock. i do not use the platform, and never will. 

    personally i kinda hope it tanks, given that they invested 100 million in rogan and the fact that it is not favorable to musicians at all, paying fractions of a cent per play.

    spotify is not a music company. they are trying to dominate the podcast market, and people are dropping it and going to apple for podcasts.

    if anybody supports spotify, they are supporting an organization that has the power to harm musicians.
    I respect all of this. I’ve never used the platform. Im
    not a Rogan or Neil young fan. I just get annoyed when I see these hot takes on Twitter. 

    I do not wish any stock to tank because no one will get hurt except the little guys. I am heavily into investing. I have never owned Spotify. 
  • musicismylife78
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  • Merkin Baller
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    brianlux said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    brianlux said:
    dignin said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    dignin said:
    So many Bro Jogans posting so many memes.

    They get so easily upset.


    Same could be said for the opposing side. People were posting graphs blaming joe for the stock decline the past week. Which couldn’t be further from the truth. But you know, if someone agrees they believe it without looking any further. Rogan fans and Neil fans are both acting like children over this. 
    I think Neil young fans are upset because, like him, they don't like a massive platform supporting someone who spreads misinformation and lies that kills people.

    Bro Jogan fans are upset that someone dare take a stand against the messiah.

    I don't see the both sides here.

    It's easy to understand why an artist wouldn't want their brand to be associated with Spotify. I don't think they should cancel Rogan, just take down the lies and misinformation. Start acting like a responsible company.

    I hope more artists grow a spine and follow suit. Looking at you PJ, and all my favorite bands.

    I agree.
    Sorry Nick, but if there are two sides to this issue, what it comes down to is people who are fed up with misinformation spread about a deadly virus or people who buy into that misinformation.  And Rogan should know better.  He interviewed Dr. Fauci very early on in the pandemic and seemed very concerned and focused on learning as much as possible about what we can do about it and now he's gone to the other extreme of bandying about these ridiculous myths. 
    And Young has not censured Rogan.  Rogan should censor is disgraceful self.
    Having different views is nothing to be sorry about Brian. 

    Thanks, Nick.  It's just sad that there even are differing views on this issue.  I suppose it's too much to wish everyone would support the most knowledgeable people in the fields of science and medicine who are working on managing this thing.  In a very short period of time, they were able to come up with vaccines that are very effective.  Many lived have already been saved.  So  I don't understand people who "side" with Rogan and are OK with him spreading false information.
    Well said. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    musicismylife78 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    musicismylife78 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    What I think we are forgetting here is that Joe Rogan is an idiot. As in dumb. 

    But maybe people who listen, love and are in here defending him knows that.

    I doubt the large percentage of people listening to him though - over the 1000000000 other podcasts available - understands that he is very, very stupid. 
    He;s no different than Trevor Noah, Colbert, Jon Stewart, Seth Meyers, Jimmy Kimmel, all of whom have open and at times outrageous political views.  Don Lemon is unbelievably irresponsible and incendiary, one sided, and gross, for example.  Or just reading HuffPo or WaPo or NY Times, you are bombarded with one sided views with a clear agenda.  I would guess the audience of people who are fans of those particular people and publications ALSO would apply in terms of what you just said.  I certainly wouldn't listen to or consume those people's products and entertainment, Id rather get more balanced and fair content, but obviously theres alot of people who enjoy it.  Same with Joe.  
    I don't know why you are making this into some american skewed rights vs left thing. 

    Bu anywho...

    What are these balances and fair content you speak of? Mick Garris Post Mortem podcast? Kevin Williamson was just on. 
    You have been nothing but antiJoe in this thread and the one on The Porch.  You seem to view him as an idiot, thats a direct quote, and that he should be kicked off, and banned and that anyone listening to him is also an idiot.  Ive multiple times pointed out that theres many people, many podcasters, many musicians who have skewed, agenda driven ideas.  The people I listed all are as popular, have as much power as, have as much influences as, and use their platform the same way as Joe does.  I think the problem you seem to have is you dont agree with Joe's politics, yet you do with the people I listed.  Jimmy kimmel and Trevor Noah are as irresponsible on their platform as Joe, all of them, including Joe spout off their opinions.  Why are you so focused on only Joe, to the exclusion of everyone else?  I confronted you about this earlier in the thread but you gave a noncommittal answer, suggesting that the other folks didnt force lies on people.  Im not sure if you've ever seen an episode of any of those peoples shows then, my friend.  They force their views on people the entire show.  Trevor Noah and Jimmy Kimmel have crystal clear political agendas they are peddling.  My guess is you dont have a problem with that, because you agree with their stances.  
    What are these balanced and fair content you speak of?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
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    The music industry has been screwing fans for years…1st it was vinyl, 8 tracks and cassettes and they killed that industry with the introduction of the CD, then digital music took hold and now some want that killed so we can all presumably line musicians pockets and buy vintage vinyl…it called a vicious marketing cycle..and young, Mitchell and the rest are part of it.

    let’s not even discuss the price of concert tickets…

    But yet Neil supports apple which does not like to pay fair wages and uses slave labour to build their products…

    and he does not like free speech…
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    Meltdown99 said:
    The music industry has been screwing fans for years…1st it was vinyl, 8 tracks and cassettes and they killed that industry with the introduction of the CD, then digital music took hold and now some want that killed so we can all presumably line musicians pockets and buy vintage vinyl…it called a vicious marketing cycle..and young, Mitchell and the rest are part of it.

    let’s not even discuss the price of concert tickets…

    But yet Neil supports apple which does not like to pay fair wages and uses slave labour to build their products…

    and he does not like free speech…
    Go enlist then.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    musicismylife78 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    musicismylife78 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    What I think we are forgetting here is that Joe Rogan is an idiot. As in dumb. 

    But maybe people who listen, love and are in here defending him knows that.

    I doubt the large percentage of people listening to him though - over the 1000000000 other podcasts available - understands that he is very, very stupid. 
    He;s no different than Trevor Noah, Colbert, Jon Stewart, Seth Meyers, Jimmy Kimmel, all of whom have open and at times outrageous political views.  Don Lemon is unbelievably irresponsible and incendiary, one sided, and gross, for example.  Or just reading HuffPo or WaPo or NY Times, you are bombarded with one sided views with a clear agenda.  I would guess the audience of people who are fans of those particular people and publications ALSO would apply in terms of what you just said.  I certainly wouldn't listen to or consume those people's products and entertainment, Id rather get more balanced and fair content, but obviously theres alot of people who enjoy it.  Same with Joe.  
    I don't know why you are making this into some american skewed rights vs left thing. 

    Bu anywho...

    What are these balances and fair content you speak of? Mick Garris Post Mortem podcast? Kevin Williamson was just on. 
    You have been nothing but antiJoe in this thread and the one on The Porch.  You seem to view him as an idiot, thats a direct quote, and that he should be kicked off, and banned and that anyone listening to him is also an idiot.  Ive multiple times pointed out that theres many people, many podcasters, many musicians who have skewed, agenda driven ideas.  The people I listed all are as popular, have as much power as, have as much influences as, and use their platform the same way as Joe does.  I think the problem you seem to have is you dont agree with Joe's politics, yet you do with the people I listed.  Jimmy kimmel and Trevor Noah are as irresponsible on their platform as Joe, all of them, including Joe spout off their opinions.  Why are you so focused on only Joe, to the exclusion of everyone else?  I confronted you about this earlier in the thread but you gave a noncommittal answer, suggesting that the other folks didnt force lies on people.  Im not sure if you've ever seen an episode of any of those peoples shows then, my friend.  They force their views on people the entire show.  Trevor Noah and Jimmy Kimmel have crystal clear political agendas they are peddling.  My guess is you dont have a problem with that, because you agree with their stances.  
    How are the other people you listed, “as irresponsible on their platforms as Joe?” Can you quote or link to something of theirs to illustrate their irresponsibility? Or, are you equating political view points that you disagree with, with the purposeful spread of mis and disinformation?
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    The (Pfizer) Needle and the Damage Done.
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    patkelly12 said:
    The (Pfizer) Needle and the Damage Done.
    except the pfizer vaccine has killed far fewer people than the actual virus.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    I love Neil and his music, but its funny how the left seems to adore him, especially now.  Every hippie in 1968 would be viewed as alt-right in 2022.  Neil himself was a Reagan supporter, pro America, pro military guy in the 80s and was supportive of the Patriot Act and George W and the war on Terror.  The same people acting like he speaks for them now, conveniently forget those facts about him.  Neil absolutely is a hero, but part of that hero-ness is that he doesnt give a damn about what anyone thinks, including those die hard hippie or hippie sympathizers.   Hell, Joni wore blackface.  I love these musicians, but the sort of sanctimonious attitude of their fans and the people in this thread, is a bit much.  My guess is the majority of pro-Neil posters here wouldn't have been supportive of him in the Reagan years and the George W years.  
    What about the attitude of people who skew and twist reality like you are doing? What about them?

    Here is Neil's "Reagan supporting" that you are skewing and presenting as "total blanket supporting":

    NEIL: I never made, you know, I was never a Reagan supporter in a total blanket sense. I was one of those who felt that some ideas he had were good ideas. He had one point that he was stressing in the first six months of his job that he thought the people in the communities and neighborhoods should pull together and try to do things on their own more than depending on government to do it for them. And I thought that was a hell of an idea and here's this old guy and he's kind of got this image, of this fatherly image, telling all these people in their neighborhoods to pull together and get your own daycare centers happening, and get this and that happening.


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    This thread is the very center of another Woke Mob.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    AW124797 said:
    This thread is the very center of another Woke Mob.
    How so?
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  • Meltdown99
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    AW124797 said:
    This thread is the very center of another Woke Mob.

    They do not want admit that Neil is nothing more than a corporate whore…open conversations bad.  Supporting 2 companies that don’t pay their fair share of taxes and use slave labour good…got it.  
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