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    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    I just heard on the radio that we have plenty of potatoes here in Alberta. Super cheap because there are so many.
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    static111 said:
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    And get shot? No thanks.
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    static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    static111 said:
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    And get shot? No thanks.
    I haven't been shot in the 7 years I have lived here.  But then again last time I was in Seattle it didn't look like it had fallen, so maybe i live in an alternate universe.
    Scio me nihil scire

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,707
    edited February 2022
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    And get shot? No thanks.
    I haven't been shot in the 7 years I have lived here.  But then again last time I was in Seattle it didn't look like it had fallen, so maybe i live in an alternate universe.
    More guns = more victims of guns = greater odds of it happening. Also, won’t spend money in a state that has a governor Abbott & Costello, bans books and abortion and offers bounties for women who choose what is right for their bodies and lives. Oh, and did I mention exploding fertilizer warehouses and the legislature making it a crime to disclose the location thereof prior to exploding?

    Turn Tejas blue and I might consider it. I hope your luck holds and you get at least another 7 years of it.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,574
    DewieCox said:
    DewieCox said:
    Two days into February and no one at CNN has been arrested for pedophilia yet. Things are certainly looking up.
    Who at CNN should be arrested for pedophilia? 

    Not should. Was arrested. But you knew that already.
    I don’t think anybody knows what you’re talking about. 

    Color me shocked.




    Arrested, fired, awaiting Justice….what’s the issue?
    It's an injustice 
    If he was employed by focks he'd have been protected and promoted
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    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    And get shot? No thanks.
    I haven't been shot in the 7 years I have lived here.  But then again last time I was in Seattle it didn't look like it had fallen, so maybe i live in an alternate universe.
    More guns = more victims of guns = greater odds of it happening. Also, won’t spend money in a state that has a governor Abbott & Costello, bans books and abortion and offers bounties for women who choose what is right for their bodies and lives. Oh, and did I mention exploding fertilizer warehouses and the legislature making it a crime to disclose the location thereof prior to exploding?

    Turn Tejas blue and I might consider it. I hope your luck holds and you get at least another 7 years of it.
    Anybody here from Chitown?
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,008
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    And get shot? No thanks.
    I haven't been shot in the 7 years I have lived here.  But then again last time I was in Seattle it didn't look like it had fallen, so maybe i live in an alternate universe.
    More guns = more victims of guns = greater odds of it happening. Also, won’t spend money in a state that has a governor Abbott & Costello, bans books and abortion and offers bounties for women who choose what is right for their bodies and lives. Oh, and did I mention exploding fertilizer warehouses and the legislature making it a crime to disclose the location thereof prior to exploding?

    Turn Tejas blue and I might consider it. I hope your luck holds and you get at least another 7 years of it.
    Anybody here from Chitown?
    they're all dead man...all shot
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    And get shot? No thanks.
    I haven't been shot in the 7 years I have lived here.  But then again last time I was in Seattle it didn't look like it had fallen, so maybe i live in an alternate universe.
    More guns = more victims of guns = greater odds of it happening. Also, won’t spend money in a state that has a governor Abbott & Costello, bans books and abortion and offers bounties for women who choose what is right for their bodies and lives. Oh, and did I mention exploding fertilizer warehouses and the legislature making it a crime to disclose the location thereof prior to exploding?

    Turn Tejas blue and I might consider it. I hope your luck holds and you get at least another 7 years of it.
    Anybody here from Chitown?
    they're all dead man...all shot
    Damn, I knew it...
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    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    And get shot? No thanks.
    I haven't been shot in the 7 years I have lived here.  But then again last time I was in Seattle it didn't look like it had fallen, so maybe i live in an alternate universe.
    More guns = more victims of guns = greater odds of it happening. Also, won’t spend money in a state that has a governor Abbott & Costello, bans books and abortion and offers bounties for women who choose what is right for their bodies and lives. Oh, and did I mention exploding fertilizer warehouses and the legislature making it a crime to disclose the location thereof prior to exploding?

    Turn Tejas blue and I might consider it. I hope your luck holds and you get at least another 7 years of it.
    Anybody here from Chitown?
    they're all dead man...all shot
    All shot by CNN pedophiles, proly. 
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,194
    Pretty stoked that we're now actually lurching toward this becoming an honest to goodness free speech issue

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/joe-rogan-spotify-covid-white-house-b2005488.html
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,008
    pjl44 said:
    Pretty stoked that we're now actually lurching toward this becoming an honest to goodness free speech issue

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/joe-rogan-spotify-covid-white-house-b2005488.html
    lol...the "yell fire in a movie theatre" argument
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,894
    give it a few weeks....rogan will be on hannity. 
    Flight Risk out NOW!

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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,706
    rogan commenting on race and different brains and things like that sounds like something jimmy the greek would have said back in 1988.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1988/01/17/jimmy-the-greek-fired-by-cbs-for-his-remarks/27536e46-3031-40c2-bb2b-f912ec518f80/

    'JIMMY THE GREEK' FIRED BY CBS FOR HIS REMARKS

    By George Solomon
    January 17, 1988

    Jimmy (the Greek) Snyder, CBS Sports commentator, analyst and oddsmaker, was fired by the network yesterday after a controversial television interview Friday in which he said many blacks were superior athletes because of breeding from the time of slavery and that the only area in sports left for whites was coaching.

    Snyder, 70, had been with CBS Sports for 12 years. In an interview shortly after the midday announcement, he said that CBS executives wanted him to resign, but he refused and was fired by CBS Sports President Neal Pilson in a telephone conversation from Hawaii.

    "I told him {Pilson} I wanted to face everyone Sunday," Snyder said. "He told me, 'I can't let you do it.' "

    Pilson was not available for comment, but Gene F. Jankowski, president of the CBS Broadcast Group, said, "{Snyder} made a number of remarks about black and white athletes which had patently racist overtones. CBS wishes to categorically disassociate itself from these remarks."



    continues.....

    Back before the right created the label Cancel Culture to sound more scary and ominous, it was called getting fired. 
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    Failure is leaving too.



    “Failure have wrestled with the question of Spotify and whether to have our newest music, which we control, on the platform. Until now, our ambivalence about Spotify has been based on their draconian royalty calculation which essentially gives artists a microscopic fraction of the money being generated by their music on the platform. We’ve all seen the stories of just how little Spotify pays artists whose product powers their entire business model. It’s been a scam for artists since the beginning, following in the tradition of the major label model which preceded it.

    But artists who want to have their music heard by the most ears possible have had an tough decision to make. Do we give our music to a company that devalues our product to the point where royalty checks from Spotify have become the butt of humorous memes, or do we withhold our music from the platform and supposedly miss out on an ‘entire generation of music listeners?’

    That is exactly where Failure have been since 2015 when we released our first album since reuniting. Acquiescing to the desire for more ear holes. But now, with Spotify’s recent policy shift that allows COVID vaccine misinformation to thrive on their platform, Failure have decided that enough is enough.

    Beyond the moral issues raised by Spotify’s COVID decision, the issue of vaccine misinformation and how it directly affects the current situation in the live music space is simply untenable. Right now, Failure have a 31-date US tour booked for June. The last tour we had booked in 2019 was canceled because of COVID, which was a massive financial blow to the band. The vast majority of venues on our upcoming tour are requiring proof of vaccination or a negative test to see our show. We simply cannot square Spotify’s insistence on spreading misinformation about something that directly endangers our band’s supply chain, namely, human beings in a room with big speakers. There are multiple layers, and reasons for our decision, but looking at the capitalistic, free market angle, this band, like any other small business, is cutting ties with a partner that continues to cut into our bottom line. On that level, this problem is really that simple.

    Of course, no system or business is perfect, but we have alternatives to Spotify that allow the band to be compensated in a more sustainable way, and without the need to associate ourselves with dangerous lies about public health policy.

    If you want to buy lossless digital versions of our entire catalogue, we encourage you to purchase our music on Bandcamp: failureband.bandcamp.com

    If you want to stream our music, we continue to offer our music through Apple and other streaming services.

    We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us.

    Sincerely, Failure”

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,185
    edited February 2022
    rogan commenting on race and different brains and things like that sounds like something jimmy the greek would have said back in 1988.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1988/01/17/jimmy-the-greek-fired-by-cbs-for-his-remarks/27536e46-3031-40c2-bb2b-f912ec518f80/

    'JIMMY THE GREEK' FIRED BY CBS FOR HIS REMARKS

    By George Solomon
    January 17, 1988

    Jimmy (the Greek) Snyder, CBS Sports commentator, analyst and oddsmaker, was fired by the network yesterday after a controversial television interview Friday in which he said many blacks were superior athletes because of breeding from the time of slavery and that the only area in sports left for whites was coaching.

    Snyder, 70, had been with CBS Sports for 12 years. In an interview shortly after the midday announcement, he said that CBS executives wanted him to resign, but he refused and was fired by CBS Sports President Neal Pilson in a telephone conversation from Hawaii.

    "I told him {Pilson} I wanted to face everyone Sunday," Snyder said. "He told me, 'I can't let you do it.' "

    Pilson was not available for comment, but Gene F. Jankowski, president of the CBS Broadcast Group, said, "{Snyder} made a number of remarks about black and white athletes which had patently racist overtones. CBS wishes to categorically disassociate itself from these remarks."



    continues.....

    Back before the right created the label Cancel Culture to sound more scary and ominous, it was called getting fired. 
    "cancel culture" basically means that someone they like is facing some sort of consequence for something they said or did.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,002
    rogan commenting on race and different brains and things like that sounds like something jimmy the greek would have said back in 1988.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1988/01/17/jimmy-the-greek-fired-by-cbs-for-his-remarks/27536e46-3031-40c2-bb2b-f912ec518f80/

    'JIMMY THE GREEK' FIRED BY CBS FOR HIS REMARKS

    By George Solomon
    January 17, 1988

    Jimmy (the Greek) Snyder, CBS Sports commentator, analyst and oddsmaker, was fired by the network yesterday after a controversial television interview Friday in which he said many blacks were superior athletes because of breeding from the time of slavery and that the only area in sports left for whites was coaching.

    Snyder, 70, had been with CBS Sports for 12 years. In an interview shortly after the midday announcement, he said that CBS executives wanted him to resign, but he refused and was fired by CBS Sports President Neal Pilson in a telephone conversation from Hawaii.

    "I told him {Pilson} I wanted to face everyone Sunday," Snyder said. "He told me, 'I can't let you do it.' "

    Pilson was not available for comment, but Gene F. Jankowski, president of the CBS Broadcast Group, said, "{Snyder} made a number of remarks about black and white athletes which had patently racist overtones. CBS wishes to categorically disassociate itself from these remarks."



    continues.....

    Back before the right created the label Cancel Culture to sound more scary and ominous, it was called getting fired. 
    "cancel culture" basically means that someone they like is facing some sort of consequence for something they said or did.

    earned consequence
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    JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    Failure is leaving too.



    “Failure have wrestled with the question of Spotify and whether to have our newest music, which we control, on the platform. Until now, our ambivalence about Spotify has been based on their draconian royalty calculation which essentially gives artists a microscopic fraction of the money being generated by their music on the platform. We’ve all seen the stories of just how little Spotify pays artists whose product powers their entire business model. It’s been a scam for artists since the beginning, following in the tradition of the major label model which preceded it.

    But artists who want to have their music heard by the most ears possible have had an tough decision to make. Do we give our music to a company that devalues our product to the point where royalty checks from Spotify have become the butt of humorous memes, or do we withhold our music from the platform and supposedly miss out on an ‘entire generation of music listeners?’

    That is exactly where Failure have been since 2015 when we released our first album since reuniting. Acquiescing to the desire for more ear holes. But now, with Spotify’s recent policy shift that allows COVID vaccine misinformation to thrive on their platform, Failure have decided that enough is enough.

    Beyond the moral issues raised by Spotify’s COVID decision, the issue of vaccine misinformation and how it directly affects the current situation in the live music space is simply untenable. Right now, Failure have a 31-date US tour booked for June. The last tour we had booked in 2019 was canceled because of COVID, which was a massive financial blow to the band. The vast majority of venues on our upcoming tour are requiring proof of vaccination or a negative test to see our show. We simply cannot square Spotify’s insistence on spreading misinformation about something that directly endangers our band’s supply chain, namely, human beings in a room with big speakers. There are multiple layers, and reasons for our decision, but looking at the capitalistic, free market angle, this band, like any other small business, is cutting ties with a partner that continues to cut into our bottom line. On that level, this problem is really that simple.

    Of course, no system or business is perfect, but we have alternatives to Spotify that allow the band to be compensated in a more sustainable way, and without the need to associate ourselves with dangerous lies about public health policy.

    If you want to buy lossless digital versions of our entire catalogue, we encourage you to purchase our music on Bandcamp: failureband.bandcamp.com

    If you want to stream our music, we continue to offer our music through Apple and other streaming services.

    We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us.

    Sincerely, Failure”

    I think it is funny how these artists are only going after Spotify yet the other platforms have more misinformation than Joe Rogan has spewed.

    Neil Young hates Spotify but now he loves Amazon? Oh the hypocrisy. And I see Failure has a YouTube channel. They must only watch their videos considering how much misinformation that platform gifts to the world. I don't see an issue with these people complaining about Joe Rogan and Spotify but they go out and promote other platforms that are just as guilty if not more guilty.

    I like the last line in their statement, "We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us."

    I totally get the part about not getting paid better for their music. As for "jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model", I call BS. How many people are Failure putting at risk by going on a national tour? EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT GOES TO THEIR SHOWS.

    I'm sick and tired of all the whining, crying and finger pointing.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,008
    JB16057 said:
    Failure is leaving too.



    “Failure have wrestled with the question of Spotify and whether to have our newest music, which we control, on the platform. Until now, our ambivalence about Spotify has been based on their draconian royalty calculation which essentially gives artists a microscopic fraction of the money being generated by their music on the platform. We’ve all seen the stories of just how little Spotify pays artists whose product powers their entire business model. It’s been a scam for artists since the beginning, following in the tradition of the major label model which preceded it.

    But artists who want to have their music heard by the most ears possible have had an tough decision to make. Do we give our music to a company that devalues our product to the point where royalty checks from Spotify have become the butt of humorous memes, or do we withhold our music from the platform and supposedly miss out on an ‘entire generation of music listeners?’

    That is exactly where Failure have been since 2015 when we released our first album since reuniting. Acquiescing to the desire for more ear holes. But now, with Spotify’s recent policy shift that allows COVID vaccine misinformation to thrive on their platform, Failure have decided that enough is enough.

    Beyond the moral issues raised by Spotify’s COVID decision, the issue of vaccine misinformation and how it directly affects the current situation in the live music space is simply untenable. Right now, Failure have a 31-date US tour booked for June. The last tour we had booked in 2019 was canceled because of COVID, which was a massive financial blow to the band. The vast majority of venues on our upcoming tour are requiring proof of vaccination or a negative test to see our show. We simply cannot square Spotify’s insistence on spreading misinformation about something that directly endangers our band’s supply chain, namely, human beings in a room with big speakers. There are multiple layers, and reasons for our decision, but looking at the capitalistic, free market angle, this band, like any other small business, is cutting ties with a partner that continues to cut into our bottom line. On that level, this problem is really that simple.

    Of course, no system or business is perfect, but we have alternatives to Spotify that allow the band to be compensated in a more sustainable way, and without the need to associate ourselves with dangerous lies about public health policy.

    If you want to buy lossless digital versions of our entire catalogue, we encourage you to purchase our music on Bandcamp: failureband.bandcamp.com

    If you want to stream our music, we continue to offer our music through Apple and other streaming services.

    We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us.

    Sincerely, Failure”

    I think it is funny how these artists are only going after Spotify yet the other platforms have more misinformation than Joe Rogan has spewed.

    Neil Young hates Spotify but now he loves Amazon? Oh the hypocrisy. And I see Failure has a YouTube channel. They must only watch their videos considering how much misinformation that platform gifts to the world. I don't see an issue with these people complaining about Joe Rogan and Spotify but they go out and promote other platforms that are just as guilty if not more guilty.

    I like the last line in their statement, "We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us."

    I totally get the part about not getting paid better for their music. As for "jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model", I call BS. How many people are Failure putting at risk by going on a national tour? EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT GOES TO THEIR SHOWS.

    I'm sick and tired of all the whining, crying and finger pointing.
    I sure see you doing a lot of it.
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    JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    JB16057 said:
    Failure is leaving too.



    “Failure have wrestled with the question of Spotify and whether to have our newest music, which we control, on the platform. Until now, our ambivalence about Spotify has been based on their draconian royalty calculation which essentially gives artists a microscopic fraction of the money being generated by their music on the platform. We’ve all seen the stories of just how little Spotify pays artists whose product powers their entire business model. It’s been a scam for artists since the beginning, following in the tradition of the major label model which preceded it.

    But artists who want to have their music heard by the most ears possible have had an tough decision to make. Do we give our music to a company that devalues our product to the point where royalty checks from Spotify have become the butt of humorous memes, or do we withhold our music from the platform and supposedly miss out on an ‘entire generation of music listeners?’

    That is exactly where Failure have been since 2015 when we released our first album since reuniting. Acquiescing to the desire for more ear holes. But now, with Spotify’s recent policy shift that allows COVID vaccine misinformation to thrive on their platform, Failure have decided that enough is enough.

    Beyond the moral issues raised by Spotify’s COVID decision, the issue of vaccine misinformation and how it directly affects the current situation in the live music space is simply untenable. Right now, Failure have a 31-date US tour booked for June. The last tour we had booked in 2019 was canceled because of COVID, which was a massive financial blow to the band. The vast majority of venues on our upcoming tour are requiring proof of vaccination or a negative test to see our show. We simply cannot square Spotify’s insistence on spreading misinformation about something that directly endangers our band’s supply chain, namely, human beings in a room with big speakers. There are multiple layers, and reasons for our decision, but looking at the capitalistic, free market angle, this band, like any other small business, is cutting ties with a partner that continues to cut into our bottom line. On that level, this problem is really that simple.

    Of course, no system or business is perfect, but we have alternatives to Spotify that allow the band to be compensated in a more sustainable way, and without the need to associate ourselves with dangerous lies about public health policy.

    If you want to buy lossless digital versions of our entire catalogue, we encourage you to purchase our music on Bandcamp: failureband.bandcamp.com

    If you want to stream our music, we continue to offer our music through Apple and other streaming services.

    We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us.

    Sincerely, Failure”

    I think it is funny how these artists are only going after Spotify yet the other platforms have more misinformation than Joe Rogan has spewed.

    Neil Young hates Spotify but now he loves Amazon? Oh the hypocrisy. And I see Failure has a YouTube channel. They must only watch their videos considering how much misinformation that platform gifts to the world. I don't see an issue with these people complaining about Joe Rogan and Spotify but they go out and promote other platforms that are just as guilty if not more guilty.

    I like the last line in their statement, "We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us."

    I totally get the part about not getting paid better for their music. As for "jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model", I call BS. How many people are Failure putting at risk by going on a national tour? EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT GOES TO THEIR SHOWS.

    I'm sick and tired of all the whining, crying and finger pointing.
    I sure see you doing a lot of it.
    OK, I'll fix my statement. "I'm sick and tired of all the whining, crying and finger pointing from bands that can't gain momentum because they suck."
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    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    And get shot? No thanks.
    I haven't been shot in the 7 years I have lived here.  But then again last time I was in Seattle it didn't look like it had fallen, so maybe i live in an alternate universe.
    More guns = more victims of guns = greater odds of it happening. Also, won’t spend money in a state that has a governor Abbott & Costello, bans books and abortion and offers bounties for women who choose what is right for their bodies and lives. Oh, and did I mention exploding fertilizer warehouses and the legislature making it a crime to disclose the location thereof prior to exploding?

    Turn Tejas blue and I might consider it. I hope your luck holds and you get at least another 7 years of it.
    Anybody here from Chitown?
    Haven't stepped foot in Chitown since 2016, Tejas since 1986. Hope nobody lives near a fertilizer warehouse.
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    JB16057 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Failure is leaving too.



    “Failure have wrestled with the question of Spotify and whether to have our newest music, which we control, on the platform. Until now, our ambivalence about Spotify has been based on their draconian royalty calculation which essentially gives artists a microscopic fraction of the money being generated by their music on the platform. We’ve all seen the stories of just how little Spotify pays artists whose product powers their entire business model. It’s been a scam for artists since the beginning, following in the tradition of the major label model which preceded it.

    But artists who want to have their music heard by the most ears possible have had an tough decision to make. Do we give our music to a company that devalues our product to the point where royalty checks from Spotify have become the butt of humorous memes, or do we withhold our music from the platform and supposedly miss out on an ‘entire generation of music listeners?’

    That is exactly where Failure have been since 2015 when we released our first album since reuniting. Acquiescing to the desire for more ear holes. But now, with Spotify’s recent policy shift that allows COVID vaccine misinformation to thrive on their platform, Failure have decided that enough is enough.

    Beyond the moral issues raised by Spotify’s COVID decision, the issue of vaccine misinformation and how it directly affects the current situation in the live music space is simply untenable. Right now, Failure have a 31-date US tour booked for June. The last tour we had booked in 2019 was canceled because of COVID, which was a massive financial blow to the band. The vast majority of venues on our upcoming tour are requiring proof of vaccination or a negative test to see our show. We simply cannot square Spotify’s insistence on spreading misinformation about something that directly endangers our band’s supply chain, namely, human beings in a room with big speakers. There are multiple layers, and reasons for our decision, but looking at the capitalistic, free market angle, this band, like any other small business, is cutting ties with a partner that continues to cut into our bottom line. On that level, this problem is really that simple.

    Of course, no system or business is perfect, but we have alternatives to Spotify that allow the band to be compensated in a more sustainable way, and without the need to associate ourselves with dangerous lies about public health policy.

    If you want to buy lossless digital versions of our entire catalogue, we encourage you to purchase our music on Bandcamp: failureband.bandcamp.com

    If you want to stream our music, we continue to offer our music through Apple and other streaming services.

    We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us.

    Sincerely, Failure”

    I think it is funny how these artists are only going after Spotify yet the other platforms have more misinformation than Joe Rogan has spewed.

    Neil Young hates Spotify but now he loves Amazon? Oh the hypocrisy. And I see Failure has a YouTube channel. They must only watch their videos considering how much misinformation that platform gifts to the world. I don't see an issue with these people complaining about Joe Rogan and Spotify but they go out and promote other platforms that are just as guilty if not more guilty.

    I like the last line in their statement, "We encourage other artists who want to be paid better for their music, and who don’t want to be in business with a company who is comfortable jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model, to join us."

    I totally get the part about not getting paid better for their music. As for "jeopardizing the industry to which they owe their entire business model", I call BS. How many people are Failure putting at risk by going on a national tour? EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT GOES TO THEIR SHOWS.

    I'm sick and tired of all the whining, crying and finger pointing.
    I sure see you doing a lot of it.
    OK, I'll fix my statement. "I'm sick and tired of all the whining, crying and finger pointing from bands that can't gain momentum because they suck."
    What did Pearl Jams last album sell?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,574
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    And get shot? No thanks.
    I haven't been shot in the 7 years I have lived here.  But then again last time I was in Seattle it didn't look like it had fallen, so maybe i live in an alternate universe.
    More guns = more victims of guns = greater odds of it happening. Also, won’t spend money in a state that has a governor Abbott & Costello, bans books and abortion and offers bounties for women who choose what is right for their bodies and lives. Oh, and did I mention exploding fertilizer warehouses and the legislature making it a crime to disclose the location thereof prior to exploding?

    Turn Tejas blue and I might consider it. I hope your luck holds and you get at least another 7 years of it.
    Anybody here from Chitown?
    they're all dead man...all shot
    All shot by CNN pedophiles, proly. 
    I thought it was the Antifa, BLM, FBI crisis actors
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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,636
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
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    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
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    HARTFORD 10-25-13









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    ed243421ed243421 Posts: 7,636
    Kelly Slater?!?
    The whole world will be different soon... - EV
    RED ROCKS 6-19-95
    AUGUSTA 9-26-96
    MANSFIELD 9-15-98
    BOSTON 9-29-04
    BOSTON 5-25-06
    MANSFIELD 6-30-08
    EV SOLO BOSTON 8-01-08
    BOSTON 5-17-10
    EV SOLO BOSTON 6-16-11
    PJ20 9-3-11
    PJ20 9-4-11
    WRIGLEY 7-19-13
    WORCESTER 10-15-13
    WORCESTER 10-16-13
    HARTFORD 10-25-13









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    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    Where are people getting potatoes? I heard McDonalds cant get potatoes and that there's a worldwide shortage. You guys growing your own?
    Plenty of potatoes down here in Texas. Come for a visit.
    And get shot? No thanks.
    I haven't been shot in the 7 years I have lived here.  But then again last time I was in Seattle it didn't look like it had fallen, so maybe i live in an alternate universe.
    More guns = more victims of guns = greater odds of it happening. Also, won’t spend money in a state that has a governor Abbott & Costello, bans books and abortion and offers bounties for women who choose what is right for their bodies and lives. Oh, and did I mention exploding fertilizer warehouses and the legislature making it a crime to disclose the location thereof prior to exploding?

    Turn Tejas blue and I might consider it. I hope your luck holds and you get at least another 7 years of it.
    Anybody here from Chitown?
    they're all dead man...all shot
    All shot by CNN pedophiles, proly. 
    I thought it was the Antifa, BLM, FBI crisis actors
    IT'S ALL ONE SONG!
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    JB16057JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    “In an interview with Melody Maker in 1985, Neil Young backed Reagan’s gun control policies and said of AIDS, ‘You go to a supermarket and you see a faggot behind the f***in’ cash register, you don’t want him to handle your potatoes,” Young said, Rolling Stone reported in 2013.

    You want to talk about someone spreading information and harming the public.....That Neil Young is a swell guy. How much homophobia did Neil spread around in the 80's?

    Neil Young believes in science..... except when he doesn't..... https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/neil-young-gmo-monsanto-msna649971

    I don't blame Neil for arguing against GMOs but the science says that it is safe. Neil Young argues against that science. It's one thing to commit and promote eating organic but what he was doing was spreading misinformation and lies.

    Joe Rogan is not doctor and says the N word. Neil Young is not doctor but pretends to know more than you and also hates gay people.
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