Viruses / Vaccines 2

lastexitlondon · January 2022

Polio killed and maimed any age or co morbidities or none. Before a vaccine came.ask any dr. If you keep the best health possible when a virus comes your body has its best chance to fight. With a vaccine also

brianlux · January 2022

tish said:

Let's not forget that age is the greatest factor in a negative outcome.

Stop getting old, people.

Oops! Too late.

Gern Blansten · January 2022

lastexitlondon said:

Polio killed and maimed any age or co morbidities or none. Before a vaccine came.ask any dr. If you keep the best health possible when a virus comes your body has its best chance to fight. With a vaccine also

you sure....pretty sure it hit young children the hardest

Gern Blansten · January 2022

lastexitlondon said:

Gern Blansten said:

lastexitlondon said:

Gern Blansten said:

lastexitlondon said:

Ive had 3 so im not anti anything im npt having another. But we cant just rely on vaccines the worst outcomes are clearly co morbidities so we can do something ourselves in the meantime is all i mean. Move more. Eat well and take vitamins instead of don't. It will help your outcome . Because we are all getting this no matter how many jabs we have. I do know vaccines work but we are going in somewhat blind as its a totally unique situation. Health is key
And we can all do more if we are honest

We can just rely on vaccines....just like we just rely on vaccines for many other diseases that we have all been vaccinated for (measles, mumps, rubella, polio, etc.)

Those diseases don't discriminate. But this one has clear markers for bad outcomes. Age yes. And co morbidities and all i am saying is take responsibility also for those. It can be done by each one of us
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I'm guessing they do discriminate....but there probably aren't many studies about that since we have all been vaccinated against them

You are guessing? Not good

whether I'm guessing or not doesn't mean shit...the vast majority of us have been vaxxed against those and we don't have to worry it.

I mean clearly the measles would affect someone who is 90 much differently than someone who is 15

Meltdown99 · January 2022

brianlux said:

tish said:

Let's not forget that age is the greatest factor in a negative outcome.

Stop getting old, people.

Oops! Too late.

They've yet to cure old age, unfortunately. So I will leave you with what everyone says when they are getting old "you are only as old as you feel." lol. I know it doesn't make me feel any better...

brianlux · January 2022

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

tish said:

Let's not forget that age is the greatest factor in a negative outcome.

Stop getting old, people.

Oops! Too late.

They've yet to cure old age, unfortunately. So I will leave you with what everyone says when they are getting old "you are only as old as you feel." lol. I know it doesn't make me feel any better...

If that is true, I am a LOT older in the morning than I am in the afternoon and into the evening.

mickeyrat · January 2022

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

these health orgs need to stop with the fucking speculation. seriously. people will readily overlook key words like may, might, could etc......

come with something closer to definitive or shut the fuck up.

For those of us that can read, I'd prefer to get "may" vs nothing at all. Some people can actually do nuance and see gray.

not enough do imo. willfull or naturally ignorant and easily led by the nose....

of course soundbite news gathering and just read the gotcha headlines don't help

mrussel1 · January 2022

mickeyrat said:

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

these health orgs need to stop with the fucking speculation. seriously. people will readily overlook key words like may, might, could etc......

come with something closer to definitive or shut the fuck up.

For those of us that can read, I'd prefer to get "may" vs nothing at all. Some people can actually do nuance and see gray.

not enough do imo. willfull or naturally ignorant and easily led by the nose....

Yeah I don't argue that. I'm just saying I don't want the flow of information to stop because there's a piece of our population that are idiots. Even if they are a majority.

lastexitlondon · January 2022

Gern Blansten said:

lastexitlondon said:

Gern Blansten said:

lastexitlondon said:

Gern Blansten said:

lastexitlondon said:

Ive had 3 so im not anti anything im npt having another. But we cant just rely on vaccines the worst outcomes are clearly co morbidities so we can do something ourselves in the meantime is all i mean. Move more. Eat well and take vitamins instead of don't. It will help your outcome . Because we are all getting this no matter how many jabs we have. I do know vaccines work but we are going in somewhat blind as its a totally unique situation. Health is key
And we can all do more if we are honest

We can just rely on vaccines....just like we just rely on vaccines for many other diseases that we have all been vaccinated for (measles, mumps, rubella, polio, etc.)

Those diseases don't discriminate. But this one has clear markers for bad outcomes. Age yes. And co morbidities and all i am saying is take responsibility also for those. It can be done by each one of us
Nothing more to see or read into

I'm guessing they do discriminate....but there probably aren't many studies about that since we have all been vaccinated against them

You are guessing? Not good

whether I'm guessing or not doesn't mean shit...the vast majority of us have been vaxxed against those and we don't have to worry it.

I mean clearly the measles would affect someone who is 90 much differently than someone who is 15

True story i just found out Last year i had measles as a child and so did my mum.

Meltdown99 · January 2022

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

tish said:

Let's not forget that age is the greatest factor in a negative outcome.

Stop getting old, people.

Oops! Too late.

They've yet to cure old age, unfortunately. So I will leave you with what everyone says when they are getting old "you are only as old as you feel." lol. I know it doesn't make me feel any better...

If that is true, I am a LOT older in the morning than I am in the afternoon and into the evening.

Your like me, an old car…we just need to get warmed up…lol

Meltdown99 · January 2022

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PURcnX7ARps Bill Burr always has a great take on things…check it out at the 5 minute mark…

oftenreading · January 2022

lastexitlondon said:

Polio killed and maimed any age or co morbidities or none. Before a vaccine came.ask any dr. If you keep the best health possible when a virus comes your body has its best chance to fight. With a vaccine also

There is no disease where everyone is at equal risk of bad outcome. For polio, children under five are at highest risk but also pregnant women, certain immune deficiencies and those with pre-existing muscle damage. For measles, children under five and adults over 25 are at highest risk. Adult males are at high risk of testicular complications from mumps than male children. Different comorbidities can be found for any disease process.

benjs · January 2022

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

tish said:

Let's not forget that age is the greatest factor in a negative outcome.

Stop getting old, people.

Oops! Too late.

They've yet to cure old age, unfortunately. So I will leave you with what everyone says when they are getting old "you are only as old as you feel." lol. I know it doesn't make me feel any better...

Meltdown - if you're interested in a fascinating podcast, check out Lifespan with Dr. David Sinclair. His research is on aging, and it's pretty amazing.

He feels there are techniques and technologies available or being worked on now, such that the first person to live to 150 has likely already been born. While the physical deterioration can be slowed down but not stopped, his claim is that certain parts of aging can actually be reversed.

lastexitlondon · January 2022

oftenreading said:

lastexitlondon said:

Polio killed and maimed any age or co morbidities or none. Before a vaccine came.ask any dr. If you keep the best health possible when a virus comes your body has its best chance to fight. With a vaccine also

There is no disease where everyone is at equal risk of bad outcome. For polio, children under five are at highest risk but also pregnant women, certain immune deficiencies and those with pre-existing muscle damage. For measles, children under five and adults over 25 are at highest risk, and adult males are at high risk of testicular complications. Different comorbidities can be found for any disease process.

I disagree cancer is a disease where everyone is equal

lastexitlondon · January 2022

And my point as im sure you will agree was limit your odds by doing everything you can. If you are in the medical profession surely thats good advice?

lastexitlondon · January 2022

And as we know the co morbidities for covid then lets do something about that as a minimum

Gern Blansten · January 2022

lastexitlondon said:

oftenreading said:

lastexitlondon said:

Polio killed and maimed any age or co morbidities or none. Before a vaccine came.ask any dr. If you keep the best health possible when a virus comes your body has its best chance to fight. With a vaccine also

There is no disease where everyone is at equal risk of bad outcome. For polio, children under five are at highest risk but also pregnant women, certain immune deficiencies and those with pre-existing muscle damage. For measles, children under five and adults over 25 are at highest risk, and adult males are at high risk of testicular complications. Different comorbidities can be found for any disease process.

I disagree cancer is a disease where everyone is equal

False....genetics plays a big part

lastexitlondon · January 2022

The truth is nobody can tell why a baby gets cancer and not many know their genes. But we do know obesity ,high blood pressure and diabetes are largely preventable but we choose to ignore. Genetics are responsible for most things but we don't know them nd cant change them

lastexitlondon · January 2022

Are you disagreeing with keeping good health because thats is all i said from the out set?

Gern Blansten · January 2022

lastexitlondon said:

Are you disagreeing with keeping good health because thats is all i said from the out set?

not at all....I'm disagreeing with your statements about vaccines. And that polio doesn't affect children more than adults

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