2022 North American rumour thread take 2

NWOntario · October 2021

DM282158 said:

I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.

The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.

jefft · October 2021

NWOntario said:

DM282158 said:

I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.

The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.

Ticket prices are nuts for the leafs this year.

Weston1283 · October 2021

NWOntario said:

DM282158 said:

I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.

The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.

Not only that, but people are being more selective with where and how they spend their extra cash.

post pandemic travel requires more planning and time.

When I say “empty” I obviously don’t mean that in the literal sense. But we’re entering November… every day they wait at this point is only negatively affecting ticket sales and turnout for a Spring tour

RatherStarved · October 2021

Weston1283 said:

NWOntario said:

DM282158 said:

I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.

The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.

Not only that, but people are being more selective with where and how they spend their extra cash.

post pandemic travel requires more planning and time.

When I say “empty” I obviously don’t mean that in the literal sense. But we’re entering November… every day they wait at this point is only negatively affecting ticket sales and turnout for a Spring tour

I don’t know if you’re right, but I hope they think you are, so they can get on with the dates already. By all means they are free to say these are the dates pending a final safety decision in February or whatever. But it’s time.

SVRDhand13 · October 2021

Weston1283 said:

NWOntario said:

DM282158 said:

I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.

The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.

Not only that, but people are being more selective with where and how they spend their extra cash.

post pandemic travel requires more planning and time.

When I say “empty” I obviously don’t mean that in the literal sense. But we’re entering November… every day they wait at this point is only negatively affecting ticket sales and turnout for a Spring tour

I hear you. I just think PJ demand beats most acts and definitely sports. Look at SHN, night 1 was packed. Night 2 had a major drop off.

D-Rod · October 2021

NWOntario said:

DM282158 said:

I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.

The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.

Keep in mind many people that go to weeknight games in Toronto work downtown. Many of those are still working from home which in many cases is a 60-90 minute commute.

Toronto Blue Jay’s had the same problem.

biz999 · October 2021

D-Rod said:

NWOntario said:

DM282158 said:

I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.

The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.

Keep in mind many people that go to weeknight games in Toronto work downtown. Many of those are still working from home which in many cases is a 60-90 minute commute.
Toronto Blue Jay’s had the same problem.

That's a great point actually... I lived about an hour commute from Toronto but worked downtown, and if I wanted to catch a game or concert, I would just opt for a hotel that night, easy. Probably did it once a month.

RatherStarved · October 2021

biz999 said:

D-Rod said:

NWOntario said:

DM282158 said:

I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.

The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.

Keep in mind many people that go to weeknight games in Toronto work downtown. Many of those are still working from home which in many cases is a 60-90 minute commute.
Toronto Blue Jay’s had the same problem.

That's a great point actually... I lived about an hour commute from Toronto but worked downtown, and if I wanted to catch a game or concert, I would just opt for a hotel that night, easy. Probably did it once a month.

All points are good. I would add, specific to the Leafs, that sports are really selling hope and after all the past failures it is difficult to hold onto the hope even though they have some talented forwards.

PJNB · October 2021

If they do MSG X 4 March 8-13 timeframe do people think all 4 of those shows would not sell out? I think they would. I also think the arenas that sold out last year will sell out again and the ones that do not are going to have a lot of empty seats on the back of the stage. QC front seats were sold out but back there were a ton left.

Weston1283 · October 2021

PJNB said:

If they do MSG X 4 March 8-13 timeframe do people think all 4 of those shows would not sell out? I think they would. I also think the arenas that sold out last year will sell out again and the ones that do not are going to have a lot of empty seats on the back of the stage. QC front seats were sold out but back there were a ton left.

Yes, MSG Philly etc would sell out as they always do. I’m more so thinking of a scenario where OKC or St Louis happen on a Wednesday night in March with only 1-2 months notice…. Going to be a lot of empty seats in that one

Side note, headed to my second arena show tonight since things picked back up again

TwentyOnePilots at TD Garden, should be a great one

PJNB · October 2021

Weston1283 said:

PJNB said:

If they do MSG X 4 March 8-13 timeframe do people think all 4 of those shows would not sell out? I think they would. I also think the arenas that sold out last year will sell out again and the ones that do not are going to have a lot of empty seats on the back of the stage. QC front seats were sold out but back there were a ton left.

Yes, MSG Philly etc would sell out as they always do. I’m more so thinking of a scenario where OKC or St Louis happen on a Wednesday night in March with only 1-2 months notice…. Going to be a lot of empty seats in that one

Side note, headed to my second arena show tonight since things picked back up again

TwentyOnePilots at TD Garden, should be a great one

I think you are right if they do not give us more time this go around demand will be less for sure. The rush of the initial sale will be what it is though and if they can not sell out lets say Denver or Ottawa right away I really wonder how many sales they get with an extra month or two notice than we usually get. Are we talking hundreds more? Tens more? Thousands more? I think they do what is right business wise (insurance policy) and covid policy wise and announce when it makes sense for them to do so. I do not see them being rushed with the announcement to get more seat sales but that is just a guess on my part.

PJNB · October 2021

SVRDhand13 said:

Weston1283 said:

I refunded the last of my shows besides Baltimore the other day.

I disagree with whoever said there wont be empty arenas. There will be. Not everywhere, but there will be some. QBC wasn’t even sold out before the pandemic, and now with mention of 10k+ seats to sell, you don’t think that show will be empty?

I think we have different definitions of empty.

Who said 10k tickets to sell? Sounds like pure speculation to me (which is all of this thread).

https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/7365886#Comment_7365880

Here is the link to the thread with the Tremblay interview. He talks about over half the arena still needs to sell and that was back in June. Gotta be more now that refunded I would imagine. 10K tickets are still sold after refunds.

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan · October 2021

The leafs are selling half packs. I’ve never seen that before. I was at the home opener and it wasn’t sold out but still pretty full. I think raptors might be having a similar issue but too early to tell since they’ve only had one game at home.

Lost In Ohio · October 2021

rhinomagic said:

Weston1283 said:

JojoRice said:

Short South American tour in September followed by some US dates in Oct/Nov?

If they really are playing a SA leg in the Fall, and considering we havent even heard about the first leg of NA Tour.... I think whats more realistic would be

Expanded NA tour Feb/March/April (big tour)
Europe June/July
Ballparks August (5-7 shows Max)
SA September (5-7 shows, mostly festivals)
And maybe AUS in Dec/Jan

I would be willing to bet alot of money that they wont play 4 full legs of shows in a 1 year period.

That's a really ambitious projection on your part for a band that hasn't shown a lot of touring energy the past several years.

I mean, I hope they surprise the lot of us. At the same time, I don't count on them to do it anymore.

It's easily explainable:
2021 - COVID

2020 - COVID

2019 - Studio time with plans to "gig a ton" in 2020.
2018 - Tour in three continents with plans to release an album which got delayed.
2017 - Not much

2016 - Tour like 2018, but more USA dates...and even Canada too.
2015 - Not much

If that 2018 album wasn't delayed and if no COVID, things look a lot different.

2021 - ??
2020 - Tour?
2019 - Tour

2018 - South America and Europe tour...with a new album.

Lost In Ohio · October 2021

RatherStarved said:

Anyone think there’s anything to the order of shows on Ticketmaster?

Hamilton
Ottawa
Baltimore
New York
Quebec
St Louis
Nashville
Phoenix
LA
LA
OKC
Denver
SD
Toronto

[Oakland shows listed randomly for later on]

Even if COVID didn't exist, fewer crossings are always better.

Weston1283 · October 2021

SHN and Ohana Encore were great, but after last night, TwentyOnePilots has solidified themselves as, in my opinion, the best live act in music right now

What an absolutely incredible performance last night

drakeheuer14 · October 2021

^dude I can’t wait for the Atlanta run soon

bootlegger10 · October 2021

Weston1283 said:

SHN and Ohana Encore were great, but after last night, TwentyOnePilots has solidified themselves as, in my opinion, the best live act in music right now

What an absolutely incredible performance last night

I would hope a band that has been around 30 years isn't the best touring act out there right now.

RatherStarved · October 2021

bootlegger10 said:

Weston1283 said:

SHN and Ohana Encore were great, but after last night, TwentyOnePilots has solidified themselves as, in my opinion, the best live act in music right now

What an absolutely incredible performance last night

I would hope a band that has been around 30 years isn't the best touring act out there right now.

31. And they’re the best for my money. With the exception that, you know, they’re not actually touring.

demetrios · October 2021

PJNB said:

RatherStarved said:

Anyone think there’s anything to the order of shows on Ticketmaster?

Hamilton
Ottawa
Baltimore
New York
Quebec
St Louis
Nashville
Phoenix
LA
LA
OKC
Denver
SD
Toronto

[Oakland shows listed randomly for later on]

Not a chance.

Yeah those Canadian dates if true would be messed up;

2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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