2022 North American rumour thread take 2

apirk72

I don't really see them ever do a large tour again, they don't have to.  Play a few stadiums and maybe sprinkle a few shows in smaller markets between.  Why would they want to do a 20 or so show tour at this point.  They've seemed to do a pretty good job keeping good people around them and keeping them happy, where as a band like the Grateful Dead had a terrible group around them and they had to tour to death because too many people relied on them for their livelihoods

iOnlyownMymind

Jeez it getting depressing around here. 

Zod

iOnlyownMymind said:

Jeez it getting depressing around here. 

I think it's because many of us haven't seen PJ in a while.   Things like concerts were the little carrots I would dangle for myself that would carry me through the year.  Look forward to the next concert, backpacking trip, camping trip, etc...   With concerts removed it's been less fun.

While I fully understand the way, I think this is my longest stretch for not seeing PJ (I'm at 3 years and 2 months), and the longest stretch of not going to a big concert (2 years and 2 months since I saw the Stones in Seattle). 

I miss concerts :(

TH113769

I totally respect the band’s issue with Covid safety (if that is why there is no announcement), but the bottom line is Covid is going nowhere, although it is close to becoming endemic.  I was fortunately at Ohana both weekends and people were packed in as usual.  I didn’t hear of any “outbreaks” so I think the vaccine / testing policy worked well (plus being outdoors of course). 

The problem I have is that I have tickets for a bunch of shows that I would like to still attend, but it does help to know when those shows will be so I can plan life around them.  If there will be no spring tour then say so.  That’s fine – every other band is touring and I can make plans to see plenty of other bands I like.  I think an update of some sort given tickets have been sold for future dates is not an unreasonable request. 

iOnlyownMymind

This is starting to feel like the Christmas singles fiasco all over again, ha. 

vedpunk

iOnlyownMymind said:

This is starting to feel like the Christmas singles fiasco all over again, ha. 

I wish it was that meaningless as a Christmas single vs the touring future of the band.  Although, usually when everything is at its worst and threads get shutdown, we get a glimmer of hope and an actual update. 

RatherStarved

They have scheduled the shows.  They just haven’t announced the dates.  They will.  Eventually.  

RatherStarved

jimjam1982 said:

Like others have said, time to make alternate plans. Band doesn't seem too worried about their US fans.  We have Europe dates - which makes no sense that they are more comfortable traveling the world then playing some "local" shows. Guess I will hit the Metallica Vegas show next year and hope those FF do one of those pop up shows in PHX.

Refunded my last Europe show - Prague - good luck to our friends overseas who have plenty of planning time!

@jimjam1982 Was your Prague refund from 10c or public sale? 

jimjam1982

RatherStarved said:

jimjam1982 said:

Like others have said, time to make alternate plans. Band doesn't seem too worried about their US fans.  We have Europe dates - which makes no sense that they are more comfortable traveling the world then playing some "local" shows. Guess I will hit the Metallica Vegas show next year and hope those FF do one of those pop up shows in PHX.

Refunded my last Europe show - Prague - good luck to our friends overseas who have plenty of planning time!

@jimjam1982 Was your Prague refund from 10c or public sale? 

10c

OceansJenny

HughFreakingDillon said:

OceansJenny said:

I don’t get why people still have airline vouchers. It’s been almost 2 years. The better choice would have been refund or use it on another trip. 

Pretty sure the airlines are required to give refunds for those early 2020 dates. If you got talked into a voucher and waived the right to refund well time to take a trip somewhere. I wouldn’t wait for PJ.

not everyone can afford to travel just whenever they want. my wife agreed to do another trip to see PJ in a city we've never been to, and we're committed to seeing it through. 

we weren't given the option to refund. it was use it by Dec 31/21 or lose it completely. we didn't get talked into anything. my wife was on the phone with them several times and spoke to several different people: no refunds. probably because we used our Avion points. 

Ah yes using points would throw a wrench in any sort of refund. Well, at least you’re not out any actual dollars. 

I def understand your circumstance and hope you get to use the flight for PJ or something else fun. So many people here throw down for travel I (mistakenly!) didn’t even think of the person making a one time special trip splurge.

DOT does have a law saying if the airline cancels the flight, you are entitled to a refund in the original form of payment. They are apparently cracking down on the airlines not abiding. May be something to look in to.

https://thepointsguy.com/guide/refund-for-canceled-flight/

apirk72

JimmyV said:

Indifference said:

JimmyV said:

I'm torn between thinking what the Foo are doing is cool and still somehow being annoyed every time I see Dave Grohl. 

annoyed or envious?

Totally annoyed. The guy is everywhere all the time. Good for him but man he just bugs me. 

I could really do without ever seeing him in a music doc again.  Doesn't matter what band there he is saying the exact same thing he said in the last.

RatherStarved

OceansJenny said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

OceansJenny said:

I don’t get why people still have airline vouchers. It’s been almost 2 years. The better choice would have been refund or use it on another trip. 

Pretty sure the airlines are required to give refunds for those early 2020 dates. If you got talked into a voucher and waived the right to refund well time to take a trip somewhere. I wouldn’t wait for PJ.

not everyone can afford to travel just whenever they want. my wife agreed to do another trip to see PJ in a city we've never been to, and we're committed to seeing it through. 

we weren't given the option to refund. it was use it by Dec 31/21 or lose it completely. we didn't get talked into anything. my wife was on the phone with them several times and spoke to several different people: no refunds. probably because we used our Avion points. 

Ah yes using points would throw a wrench in any sort of refund. Well, at least you’re not out any actual dollars. 

I def understand your circumstance and hope you get to use the flight for PJ or something else fun. So many people here throw down for travel I (mistakenly!) didn’t even think of the person making a one time special trip splurge.

DOT does have a law saying if the airline cancels the flight, you are entitled to a refund in the original form of payment. They are apparently cracking down on the airlines not abiding. May be something to look in to.

https://thepointsguy.com/guide/refund-for-canceled-flight/

The rules in Canada are a bit different.  I don’t know all the ins and outs but I know that.  

100 Pacer

RatherStarved said:

OceansJenny said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

OceansJenny said:

I don’t get why people still have airline vouchers. It’s been almost 2 years. The better choice would have been refund or use it on another trip. 

Pretty sure the airlines are required to give refunds for those early 2020 dates. If you got talked into a voucher and waived the right to refund well time to take a trip somewhere. I wouldn’t wait for PJ.

not everyone can afford to travel just whenever they want. my wife agreed to do another trip to see PJ in a city we've never been to, and we're committed to seeing it through. 

we weren't given the option to refund. it was use it by Dec 31/21 or lose it completely. we didn't get talked into anything. my wife was on the phone with them several times and spoke to several different people: no refunds. probably because we used our Avion points. 

Ah yes using points would throw a wrench in any sort of refund. Well, at least you’re not out any actual dollars. 

I def understand your circumstance and hope you get to use the flight for PJ or something else fun. So many people here throw down for travel I (mistakenly!) didn’t even think of the person making a one time special trip splurge.

DOT does have a law saying if the airline cancels the flight, you are entitled to a refund in the original form of payment. They are apparently cracking down on the airlines not abiding. May be something to look in to.

https://thepointsguy.com/guide/refund-for-canceled-flight/

The rules in Canada are a bit different.  I don’t know all the ins and outs but I know that.  

I believe the rules here were a little more generous. I booked a return flight with Air Canada from Ft Lauderdale to Toronto but obviously never showed up for it. When the tour was cancelled I phoned Amex travel (since I booked with them) and asked whether I’d be better off asking for a voucher or just not doing anything until the dust settled. I decided to do nothing as I used a $200 travel credit to book so was only out $196 while others has it far worse. When the airlines started discussing refunds last year it didn’t seem I qualified so didn’t think twice as technically I never showed up for the flight. However this year when Air Canada announced refunds I phoned Amex travel and they requested a refund which was posted to my card in full.

darthvedder

RatherStarved said:

They have scheduled the shows.  They just haven’t announced the dates.  They will.  Eventually.  

Source?

bootlegger10

darthvedder said:

RatherStarved said:

They have scheduled the shows.  They just haven’t announced the dates.  They will.  Eventually.  

Source?

I would be surprised if the holds haven’t been out there for the last several months.

D-Rod

bootlegger10 said:

darthvedder said:

RatherStarved said:

They have scheduled the shows.  They just haven’t announced the dates.  They will.  Eventually.  

Source?

I would be surprised if the holds haven’t been out there for the last several months.

When they announced Ohana and stated 2020 shows would be scheduled for spring of 2022 they probably already had holds in place. 

HughFreakingDillon

OceansJenny said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

OceansJenny said:

I don’t get why people still have airline vouchers. It’s been almost 2 years. The better choice would have been refund or use it on another trip. 

Pretty sure the airlines are required to give refunds for those early 2020 dates. If you got talked into a voucher and waived the right to refund well time to take a trip somewhere. I wouldn’t wait for PJ.

not everyone can afford to travel just whenever they want. my wife agreed to do another trip to see PJ in a city we've never been to, and we're committed to seeing it through. 

we weren't given the option to refund. it was use it by Dec 31/21 or lose it completely. we didn't get talked into anything. my wife was on the phone with them several times and spoke to several different people: no refunds. probably because we used our Avion points. 

Ah yes using points would throw a wrench in any sort of refund. Well, at least you’re not out any actual dollars. 

I def understand your circumstance and hope you get to use the flight for PJ or something else fun. So many people here throw down for travel I (mistakenly!) didn’t even think of the person making a one time special trip splurge.

DOT does have a law saying if the airline cancels the flight, you are entitled to a refund in the original form of payment. They are apparently cracking down on the airlines not abiding. May be something to look in to.

https://thepointsguy.com/guide/refund-for-canceled-flight/

they didn't cancel the flight. we cancelled due to the show being cancelled. 

biz999

Sorta back on track, I just realized you can search by city (instead of venue) and see where the postponed PJ shows fall. Here's the Ottawa show

NewfieintheUSA

biz999 said:

Sorta back on track, I just realized you can search by city (instead of venue) and see where the postponed PJ shows fall. Here's the Ottawa show

There are alot of shows that are in that exact time-frame of a few days, there is no meaning to the placement of the TBDs

Spartanacus

TH113769 said:

I totally respect the band’s issue with Covid safety (if that is why there is no announcement), but the bottom line is Covid is going nowhere, although it is close to becoming endemic.  I was fortunately at Ohana both weekends and people were packed in as usual.  I didn’t hear of any “outbreaks” so I think the vaccine / testing policy worked well (plus being outdoors of course). 

The problem I have is that I have tickets for a bunch of shows that I would like to still attend, but it does help to know when those shows will be so I can plan life around them.  If there will be no spring tour then say so.  That’s fine – every other band is touring and I can make plans to see plenty of other bands I like.  I think an update of some sort given tickets have been sold for future dates is not an unreasonable request. 

It's very likely I caught covid from a vax'd person at Ohana (since most are vax'd) so I don't really think the vax/testing policy 'worked' and is anything more than another layer of 'liability insurance.'  That being said, I was just fine (like a weird cold) and am actually glad I got it and built up those natural antibodies.  I was just was really tired for a while and couldn't smell at all, and my taste was hardly there either.  I'd do it all over again tomorrow if they announced the new dates!