2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • NDJeff7NDJeff7 Posts: 216
    I agree that I don't think they are stealing since we always have the option to grab a refund. I do wish that there was more transparency and not just radio silence after their festival shows last month. If they don't feel comfortable indoors, then just cancel those shows and book an outdoor tour.
    I remember one of our members saying over a month ago that the arenas/dates were confirmed for the spring and that we are just waiting on an announcement.
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,920
    edited November 2021
    Also, I would be incredibly shocked if Euro 2022 didn't happen.  That would involve pulling out of multiple festivals which wouldn't go over well with promoters etc.  And if they're not comfortable touring by then, then it may just never happen.  There will be a covid spike/season in 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025 and so on and so on.  That is inevitable.  

    Once we figure out what the hell is going on with the 2020 NA dates, it should be back to the status quo after that.
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  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,920
    Eddie seems ready to go


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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,956
    I booked my international flights for Europe 2022.  I'll still go though regardless of whether Pearl Jam plays a note at this point.  Just change up the trip a little.  Not sure yet what anyone expects to change between this year and next year.   I'm in the optimist camp that the US and EUro shows will be a go.  
    We have tickets to both London shows in July. We are going to the concerts as part of a 30 year wedding anniversary trip. After the concerts we are going to go to Paris for a few days as well. If the shows don't happen, we will still have a fantastic vacation.  
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,387
    Atlanta radio station is teasing a big concert announcement at 9am this morning.  Would be nice if it was PJ but we know it won't be. 
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,564
    I thought public sale tickets could not be refunded since the window was closed for most spring shows. Face to fan and 10C could but not those. Can anyone confirm?
  • lmckenney24lmckenney24 Posts: 2,005
    edited November 2021
    JojoRice said:
    Atlanta radio station is teasing a big concert announcement at 9am this morning.  Would be nice if it was PJ but we know it won't be. 
    Probably Music Midtown for 2022, since Shaky Knee's recently announced there headliners. 
  • JojoRiceJojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,387
    JojoRice said:
    Atlanta radio station is teasing a big concert announcement at 9am this morning.  Would be nice if it was PJ but we know it won't be. 
    Probably Music Midtown for 2022, since Shaky Knee's recently announced there headliners. 
    They just announced that it's Journey.  :|
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,331
    JojoRice said:
    JojoRice said:
    Atlanta radio station is teasing a big concert announcement at 9am this morning.  Would be nice if it was PJ but we know it won't be. 
    Probably Music Midtown for 2022, since Shaky Knee's recently announced there headliners. 
    They just announced that it's Journey.  :|
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  • JojoRice said:
    JojoRice said:
    Atlanta radio station is teasing a big concert announcement at 9am this morning.  Would be nice if it was PJ but we know it won't be. 
    Probably Music Midtown for 2022, since Shaky Knee's recently announced there headliners. 
    They just announced that it's Journey.  :|
    Um, no disrespect to Journey, but when is the big announcement?!?
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  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,434
    I stand corrected apparently NA can be refunded. That box wasn't there last year after the initial 30 day window. Still a sham to hold out. 
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,271
    I stand corrected apparently NA can be refunded. That box wasn't there last year after the initial 30 day window. Still a sham to hold out. 
    So… not stealing then?
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  • jimjam1982jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,434
    on2legs said:
    I stand corrected apparently NA can be refunded. That box wasn't there last year after the initial 30 day window. Still a sham to hold out. 
    So… not stealing then?
    Nope. I had it wrong. Just morally questionable to keep holding out. Their choice tho
  • on2legs said:
    I stand corrected apparently NA can be refunded. That box wasn't there last year after the initial 30 day window. Still a sham to hold out. 
    So… not stealing then?
    Nope. I had it wrong. Just morally questionable to keep holding out. Their choice tho
    Well you’re not completely wrong.  Some of the European shows only offered future credit, not cash refunds.  As if someone traveling from another part of the world is going to have a use for a credit in a far away land.  
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    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    on2legs said:
    I stand corrected apparently NA can be refunded. That box wasn't there last year after the initial 30 day window. Still a sham to hold out. 
    So… not stealing then?
    Nope. I had it wrong. Just morally questionable to keep holding out. Their choice tho
    Well you’re not completely wrong.  Some of the European shows only offered future credit, not cash refunds.  As if someone traveling from another part of the world is going to have a use for a credit in a far away land.  


    I'm pissed about my Vienna ticket.  I've been pressing them for my money back and they won't refund until after the first of the year with no good explanation.
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,271
    on2legs said:
    I stand corrected apparently NA can be refunded. That box wasn't there last year after the initial 30 day window. Still a sham to hold out. 
    So… not stealing then?
    Nope. I had it wrong. Just morally questionable to keep holding out. Their choice tho
    Well you’re not completely wrong.  Some of the European shows only offered future credit, not cash refunds.  As if someone traveling from another part of the world is going to have a use for a credit in a far away land.  
    Pearl Jam or the promoter?
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  • I have 2 baltimore tickets. Sect 108. I dont really care if they wait 5 yrs to tour (rhetorically speaking) so long as I know i have these tickets for the show. 

    I guess im a minority. What else were they to do?  They let us keep the tickets. There is a refund option. Those 2 options should satisfy 99% of the folks. 

    Well done on that 10c. 

    Now regarding an update/announcement, it’ll come when they’re ready and we’ll have time to plan or get a refund. 


  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,271
    edited November 2021
    on2legs said:
    I stand corrected apparently NA can be refunded. That box wasn't there last year after the initial 30 day window. Still a sham to hold out. 
    So… not stealing then?
    Nope. I had it wrong. Just morally questionable to keep holding out. Their choice tho
    Or morally responsible to make sure there is a high probability the shows will come off before they announce and people start booking flights and hotel rooms only to have to cancel again. 
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  • CM189191 said:
    on2legs said:
    I stand corrected apparently NA can be refunded. That box wasn't there last year after the initial 30 day window. Still a sham to hold out. 
    So… not stealing then?
    Nope. I had it wrong. Just morally questionable to keep holding out. Their choice tho
    Well you’re not completely wrong.  Some of the European shows only offered future credit, not cash refunds.  As if someone traveling from another part of the world is going to have a use for a credit in a far away land.  


    I'm pissed about my Vienna ticket.  I've been pressing them for my money back and they won't refund until after the first of the year with no good explanation.
    Did you fill out the “OE Tickets” refund form? I am considering doing that but if there’s this delay issue that would be good to know.
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  • SM187650SM187650 Canada Posts: 791
    I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here. 
  • lmckenney24lmckenney24 Posts: 2,005
    edited November 2021
    SM187650 said:
    I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here. 
    It's definitely frustrating. But, after holding these for two years, I think I'd be livid if they refunded everyone and did a full reset. If that was an option, it should have been executed at the beginning. I think that option has long passed at this point.


  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,956
    SM187650 said:
    I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here. 
    It's definitely frustrating. But, after holding these for two years, I think I'd be livid if they refunded everyone and did a full reset. If that was an option, it should have been executed at the beginning. I think that option has long passed at this point.


    Yep. 
  • jefftjefft Posts: 668
    SM187650 said:
    I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here. 
    It's definitely frustrating. But, after holding these for two years, I think I'd be livid if they refunded everyone and did a full reset. If that was an option, it should have been executed at the beginning. I think that option has long passed at this point.


    Yep. 
    X2 I'll be super upset if they reset now.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,310
    SM187650 said:
    I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here. 
    If they change venues they should give previous ticket holders first dibs 
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  • SM187650 said:
    I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here. 
    If they change venues they should give previous ticket holders first dibs 
    This ^
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,850
    SM187650 said:
    I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here. 
    If they change venues they should give previous ticket holders first dibs 
    I’d be fine with that. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • brewdog123brewdog123 ATL Posts: 672
    They should “move up” the ticket holder that decided to keep their tickets after all this time as well
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  • ComeToTX said:
    SM187650 said:
    I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here. 
    If they change venues they should give previous ticket holders first dibs 
    I’d be fine with that. 
    Aye.  No reset, move up people who hung in. 
  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,039
    They should “move up” the ticket holder that decided to keep their tickets after all this time as well
    100% It seems like something that shouldn't be that difficult to do, but I'm sure that I am oversimplifying it a bit lol
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,298
    We don't know that they have retained any control over the tickets that have been refunded. 
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