I agree that I don't think they are stealing since we always have the option to grab a refund. I do wish that there was more transparency and not just radio silence after their festival shows last month. If they don't feel comfortable indoors, then just cancel those shows and book an outdoor tour. I remember one of our members saying over a month ago that the arenas/dates were confirmed for the spring and that we are just waiting on an announcement.
Also, I would be incredibly shocked if Euro 2022 didn't happen. That would involve pulling out of multiple festivals which wouldn't go over well with promoters etc. And if they're not comfortable touring by then, then it may just never happen. There will be a covid spike/season in 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025 and so on and so on. That is inevitable.
Once we figure out what the hell is going on with the 2020 NA dates, it should be back to the status quo after that.
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2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II
I booked my international flights for Europe 2022. I'll still go though regardless of whether Pearl Jam plays a note at this point. Just change up the trip a little. Not sure yet what anyone expects to change between this year and next year. I'm in the optimist camp that the US and EUro shows will be a go.
We have tickets to both London shows in July. We are going to the concerts as part of a 30 year wedding anniversary trip. After the concerts we are going to go to Paris for a few days as well. If the shows don't happen, we will still have a fantastic vacation.
I thought public sale tickets could not be refunded since the window was closed for most spring shows. Face to fan and 10C could but not those. Can anyone confirm?
I stand corrected apparently NA can be refunded. That box wasn't there last year after the initial 30 day window. Still a sham to hold out.
So… not stealing then?
Nope. I had it wrong. Just morally questionable to keep holding out. Their choice tho
Well you’re not completely wrong. Some of the European shows only offered future credit, not cash refunds. As if someone traveling from another part of the world is going to have a use for a credit in a far away land.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I stand corrected apparently NA can be refunded. That box wasn't there last year after the initial 30 day window. Still a sham to hold out.
So… not stealing then?
Nope. I had it wrong. Just morally questionable to keep holding out. Their choice tho
Well you’re not completely wrong. Some of the European shows only offered future credit, not cash refunds. As if someone traveling from another part of the world is going to have a use for a credit in a far away land.
I'm pissed about my Vienna ticket. I've been pressing them for my money back and they won't refund until after the first of the year with no good explanation.
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I stand corrected apparently NA can be refunded. That box wasn't there last year after the initial 30 day window. Still a sham to hold out.
So… not stealing then?
Nope. I had it wrong. Just morally questionable to keep holding out. Their choice tho
Well you’re not completely wrong. Some of the European shows only offered future credit, not cash refunds. As if someone traveling from another part of the world is going to have a use for a credit in a far away land.
Pearl Jam or the promoter?
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore
I have 2 baltimore tickets. Sect 108. I dont really care if they wait 5 yrs to tour (rhetorically speaking) so long as I know i have these tickets for the show.
I guess im a minority. What else were they to do? They let us keep the tickets. There is a refund option. Those 2 options should satisfy 99% of the folks.
Well done on that 10c.
Now regarding an update/announcement, it’ll come when they’re ready and we’ll have time to plan or get a refund.
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I stand corrected apparently NA can be refunded. That box wasn't there last year after the initial 30 day window. Still a sham to hold out.
So… not stealing then?
Nope. I had it wrong. Just morally questionable to keep holding out. Their choice tho
Or morally responsible to make sure there is a high probability the shows will come off before they announce and people start booking flights and hotel rooms only to have to cancel again.
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore
I stand corrected apparently NA can be refunded. That box wasn't there last year after the initial 30 day window. Still a sham to hold out.
So… not stealing then?
Nope. I had it wrong. Just morally questionable to keep holding out. Their choice tho
Well you’re not completely wrong. Some of the European shows only offered future credit, not cash refunds. As if someone traveling from another part of the world is going to have a use for a credit in a far away land.
I'm pissed about my Vienna ticket. I've been pressing them for my money back and they won't refund until after the first of the year with no good explanation.
Did you fill out the “OE Tickets” refund form? I am considering doing that but if there’s this delay issue that would be good to know.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here.
I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here.
It's definitely frustrating. But, after holding these for two years, I think I'd be livid if they refunded everyone and did a full reset. If that was an option, it should have been executed at the beginning. I think that option has long passed at this point.
I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here.
It's definitely frustrating. But, after holding these for two years, I think I'd be livid if they refunded everyone and did a full reset. If that was an option, it should have been executed at the beginning. I think that option has long passed at this point.
I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here.
It's definitely frustrating. But, after holding these for two years, I think I'd be livid if they refunded everyone and did a full reset. If that was an option, it should have been executed at the beginning. I think that option has long passed at this point.
I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here.
If they change venues they should give previous ticket holders first dibs
I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here.
If they change venues they should give previous ticket holders first dibs
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PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here.
If they change venues they should give previous ticket holders first dibs
I’d be fine with that.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
I know some people don’t like this opinion because they got tickets and they were hard to get and they are happy to hold onto them. I also have tickets and will not request a refund until the shows are announced and I know whether or not I can make the show. All that being said, I personally think they should cancel all the shows and refund everyone (im talking about NA here). Then they can book the tour or select shows that they feel safe playing. The only reason I haven’t requested a refund yet is because im afraid that I won’t get tickets to the shows I want to see because only a small portion of them will be available to purchase. Personally I think a full reset is in order here.
If they change venues they should give previous ticket holders first dibs
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I remember one of our members saying over a month ago that the arenas/dates were confirmed for the spring and that we are just waiting on an announcement.
Once we figure out what the hell is going on with the 2020 NA dates, it should be back to the status quo after that.
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
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Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I'm pissed about my Vienna ticket. I've been pressing them for my money back and they won't refund until after the first of the year with no good explanation.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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