Supply chains and Work shortages

All I hear in the news is a lagging workforce and supply chains being broke down from this.

Restaurants and retail not having enough workers to accommodate the customers. 
Increased pricing do to a backlog of materials not readily available.
Factories not having these materials nor a workforce to make these items.
Car and Truck supplies are limited causing a severe uptick in prices and availability along w a shortage and price increase on used vehicles.  I can't find a Tundra or 4Runner because of it.
Washington Times said today that there is a lack of workers by 10million in the US.  With other states ending the Covid relief funds earlier than others the powers that be aren't sure why people aren't/haven't gone back to work?

I bring all this up because for the past week I have driven to and from NYC for work.  I live 25 miles away.  It has taken me 2-3 hours to get home because of traffic so I find the lack of work force idea here in NY to be inflated.

What does it look like where you are?  What effects is it having on you and your surrounding area?
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,618
    Here's a thought on why people don't want to go back to work...
    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/10/19/1047032996/why-are-so-many-americans-quitting-their-jobs?fbclid=IwAR3P-sK5hgBMGIuHhA6FTuRyOfmot1o-hQpbtWIQyXpivbW3Evx36jcF8E0

    I'm probably blessed in my office-work-at-home life but I'm not feeling very many effects. We order a lot of stuff and aside from the occasional random thing seemingly disappearing from grocery store shelves for weeks and a couple of businesses having reduced hours, I'm not noticing much. But then again, I'm in a bubble.

    The biggest inconvenience I've had happened yesterday. I decided to call the vet because my dog has some bald spots. I found out yesterday that just about every veterinarian is scheduling out at least four weeks. So I waited a couple hours in vet urgent care and spent an extra $50 for an appointment because I think it might be ringworm (test now pending). But you ask about "...and your surrounding area." and it looks like this is a nationwide problem due in large part to a huge increase in pet ownership during the pandemic.
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  • OnWis97 said:
    Here's a thought on why people don't want to go back to work...
    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/10/19/1047032996/why-are-so-many-americans-quitting-their-jobs?fbclid=IwAR3P-sK5hgBMGIuHhA6FTuRyOfmot1o-hQpbtWIQyXpivbW3Evx36jcF8E0

    I'm probably blessed in my office-work-at-home life but I'm not feeling very many effects. We order a lot of stuff and aside from the occasional random thing seemingly disappearing from grocery store shelves for weeks and a couple of businesses having reduced hours, I'm not noticing much. But then again, I'm in a bubble.

    The biggest inconvenience I've had happened yesterday. I decided to call the vet because my dog has some bald spots. I found out yesterday that just about every veterinarian is scheduling out at least four weeks. So I waited a couple hours in vet urgent care and spent an extra $50 for an appointment because I think it might be ringworm (test now pending). But you ask about "...and your surrounding area." and it looks like this is a nationwide problem due in large part to a huge increase in pet ownership during the pandemic.
    NPR had a great episode on the food industry and why so many didn't want to go back.

    Food is one thing.  A good paying manufacturing job is a different story though.

    While in Atlantic City a few months ago they were begging people to work.  Offering $20 for greater jobs and hospitality.  Not high stress jobs, and couldn't fill them.
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    edited October 2021
    OnWis97 said:
    Here's a thought on why people don't want to go back to work...
    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/10/19/1047032996/why-are-so-many-americans-quitting-their-jobs?fbclid=IwAR3P-sK5hgBMGIuHhA6FTuRyOfmot1o-hQpbtWIQyXpivbW3Evx36jcF8E0

    I'm probably blessed in my office-work-at-home life but I'm not feeling very many effects. We order a lot of stuff and aside from the occasional random thing seemingly disappearing from grocery store shelves for weeks and a couple of businesses having reduced hours, I'm not noticing much. But then again, I'm in a bubble.

    The biggest inconvenience I've had happened yesterday. I decided to call the vet because my dog has some bald spots. I found out yesterday that just about every veterinarian is scheduling out at least four weeks. So I waited a couple hours in vet urgent care and spent an extra $50 for an appointment because I think it might be ringworm (test now pending). But you ask about "...and your surrounding area." and it looks like this is a nationwide problem due in large part to a huge increase in pet ownership during the pandemic.
    Hope you don't have to wait long for ivermectin if it is indeed a worm. (thanks Joe Rogan & Alex Jones et al) 


    RE: Traffic, more people are on the roads in the Boston area, but I think a lot of people are opting to drive to work as opposed to taking the subway since offices reopened. 

    I work in manufacturing, and there are a lot of people panic buying, which isn't helping the supply chain. We're on pace to sell as many as 4X the amount of certain items that we sold last year, the usage has been impossible to anticipate. 

    People operating like they did in 2019 (i.e. waiting until the last minute to order product expecting it to be available) are screwed.

    It's a different world than it was 2 years ago. 

    For the record, we make our product right here, we don't import. 
  • OnWis97 said:
    Here's a thought on why people don't want to go back to work...
    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/10/19/1047032996/why-are-so-many-americans-quitting-their-jobs?fbclid=IwAR3P-sK5hgBMGIuHhA6FTuRyOfmot1o-hQpbtWIQyXpivbW3Evx36jcF8E0

    I'm probably blessed in my office-work-at-home life but I'm not feeling very many effects. We order a lot of stuff and aside from the occasional random thing seemingly disappearing from grocery store shelves for weeks and a couple of businesses having reduced hours, I'm not noticing much. But then again, I'm in a bubble.

    The biggest inconvenience I've had happened yesterday. I decided to call the vet because my dog has some bald spots. I found out yesterday that just about every veterinarian is scheduling out at least four weeks. So I waited a couple hours in vet urgent care and spent an extra $50 for an appointment because I think it might be ringworm (test now pending). But you ask about "...and your surrounding area." and it looks like this is a nationwide problem due in large part to a huge increase in pet ownership during the pandemic.
    Hope you don't have to wait long for ivermectin if it is indeed a worm. (thanks Joe Rogan & Alex Jones et al) 


    RE: Traffic, more people are on the roads in the Boston area, but I think a lot of people are opting to drive to work as opposed to taking the subway since offices reopened. 

    I work in manufacturing, and there are a lot of people panic buying, which isn't helping the supply chain. We're on pace to sell as many as 4X the amount of certain items that we sold last year, the usage has been impossible to anticipate. 

    People operating like they did in 2019 (i.e. waiting until the last minute to order product expecting it to be available) are screwed.

    It's a different world than it was 2 years ago. 

    For the record, we make our product right here, we don't import. 
    We have to order materials far in advance now.  It's like 2009-2010 all over again.

    I agree with people not using public transport again.

    What are you guys making that people are gobbling up?
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I live a outside Windsor, Ontario and it’s home to Windsor Assembly Plant that assembled the Chrysler mini van…they have been idled much of the year due to a chip shortage and declining sales.  Chrysler just announced 1800 permanent layoffs eliminating the 2nd shift and will be a 1 shift plant…which can effect an addition 5000 jobs.  These are all good paying factory jobs in an area that is starved for good paying jobs.

    We have a large tool and die sector that will experience minor hiccups…many tool and die places only accept so much work from auto companies…less than 20% and these jobs are extremely well paying.

    The restaurant industry here is starving for workers. I know a few people who used to work at restaurants and are not going back, they all have basically said working with the disgusting public  is no longer worth it…the stories they’ve told me and I don’t blame them…the biggest complaint I hear is that tipping has greatly decreased, employers and the public expect to much.

    Good thread….






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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    OnWis97 said:
    Here's a thought on why people don't want to go back to work...
    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/10/19/1047032996/why-are-so-many-americans-quitting-their-jobs?fbclid=IwAR3P-sK5hgBMGIuHhA6FTuRyOfmot1o-hQpbtWIQyXpivbW3Evx36jcF8E0

    I'm probably blessed in my office-work-at-home life but I'm not feeling very many effects. We order a lot of stuff and aside from the occasional random thing seemingly disappearing from grocery store shelves for weeks and a couple of businesses having reduced hours, I'm not noticing much. But then again, I'm in a bubble.

    The biggest inconvenience I've had happened yesterday. I decided to call the vet because my dog has some bald spots. I found out yesterday that just about every veterinarian is scheduling out at least four weeks. So I waited a couple hours in vet urgent care and spent an extra $50 for an appointment because I think it might be ringworm (test now pending). But you ask about "...and your surrounding area." and it looks like this is a nationwide problem due in large part to a huge increase in pet ownership during the pandemic.
    Hope you don't have to wait long for ivermectin if it is indeed a worm. (thanks Joe Rogan & Alex Jones et al) 


    RE: Traffic, more people are on the roads in the Boston area, but I think a lot of people are opting to drive to work as opposed to taking the subway since offices reopened. 

    I work in manufacturing, and there are a lot of people panic buying, which isn't helping the supply chain. We're on pace to sell as many as 4X the amount of certain items that we sold last year, the usage has been impossible to anticipate. 

    People operating like they did in 2019 (i.e. waiting until the last minute to order product expecting it to be available) are screwed.

    It's a different world than it was 2 years ago. 

    For the record, we make our product right here, we don't import. 
    We have to order materials far in advance now.  It's like 2009-2010 all over again.

    I agree with people not using public transport again.

    What are you guys making that people are gobbling up?
    Concrete demolition and rock drilling tools. 
  • OnWis97 said:
    Here's a thought on why people don't want to go back to work...
    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/10/19/1047032996/why-are-so-many-americans-quitting-their-jobs?fbclid=IwAR3P-sK5hgBMGIuHhA6FTuRyOfmot1o-hQpbtWIQyXpivbW3Evx36jcF8E0

    I'm probably blessed in my office-work-at-home life but I'm not feeling very many effects. We order a lot of stuff and aside from the occasional random thing seemingly disappearing from grocery store shelves for weeks and a couple of businesses having reduced hours, I'm not noticing much. But then again, I'm in a bubble.

    The biggest inconvenience I've had happened yesterday. I decided to call the vet because my dog has some bald spots. I found out yesterday that just about every veterinarian is scheduling out at least four weeks. So I waited a couple hours in vet urgent care and spent an extra $50 for an appointment because I think it might be ringworm (test now pending). But you ask about "...and your surrounding area." and it looks like this is a nationwide problem due in large part to a huge increase in pet ownership during the pandemic.
    Hope you don't have to wait long for ivermectin if it is indeed a worm. (thanks Joe Rogan & Alex Jones et al) 


    RE: Traffic, more people are on the roads in the Boston area, but I think a lot of people are opting to drive to work as opposed to taking the subway since offices reopened. 

    I work in manufacturing, and there are a lot of people panic buying, which isn't helping the supply chain. We're on pace to sell as many as 4X the amount of certain items that we sold last year, the usage has been impossible to anticipate. 

    People operating like they did in 2019 (i.e. waiting until the last minute to order product expecting it to be available) are screwed.

    It's a different world than it was 2 years ago. 

    For the record, we make our product right here, we don't import. 
    We have to order materials far in advance now.  It's like 2009-2010 all over again.

    I agree with people not using public transport again.

    What are you guys making that people are gobbling up?
    Concrete demolition and rock drilling tools. 
    OK.  I deal w Hilti all the time and they tell me most items are in stock but the occasional items are a few weeks out.
  • dankind
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    Closing early today. I'll try to get you an answer tomorrow.
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  • dankind said:
    Closing early today. I'll try to get you an answer tomorrow.
    lol, only does 10C threads during work hours.
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,476
    In my line of work we have known for awhile that certain items have been sitting on docks and or ships for months now.
    We just move on to something else to fill the holes.

  • In my line of work we have known for awhile that certain items have been sitting on docks and or ships for months now.
    We just move on to something else to fill the holes.

    I keep hearing this. 

    Longshoreman jobs and trucking are very good paying jobs.  I don't understand why people would not want those types of jobs?
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    In my line of work we have known for awhile that certain items have been sitting on docks and or ships for months now.
    We just move on to something else to fill the holes.

    I keep hearing this. 

    Longshoreman jobs and trucking are very good paying jobs.  I don't understand why people would not want those types of jobs?
    LMFAO.  Young people today have no interest in trucking.  I have 2 family member who drove truck and left the industry... it's a great life if you wanna live in a truck...
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  • In my line of work we have known for awhile that certain items have been sitting on docks and or ships for months now.
    We just move on to something else to fill the holes.

    I keep hearing this. 

    Longshoreman jobs and trucking are very good paying jobs.  I don't understand why people would not want those types of jobs?
    LMFAO.  Young people today have no interest in trucking.  I have 2 family member who drove truck and left the industry... it's a great life if you wanna live in a truck...
    You don't have to do long hauls and maybe Amazon needs to speed up their vision of peopleless transport trucks?
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    In my line of work we have known for awhile that certain items have been sitting on docks and or ships for months now.
    We just move on to something else to fill the holes.

    I keep hearing this. 

    Longshoreman jobs and trucking are very good paying jobs.  I don't understand why people would not want those types of jobs?
    LMFAO.  Young people today have no interest in trucking.  I have 2 family member who drove truck and left the industry... it's a great life if you wanna live in a truck...
    You don't have to do long hauls and maybe Amazon needs to speed up their vision of peopleless transport trucks?
    LOL.  Yeah.  My brother-in-law left the industry after one too many idiot drivers cut him off causing him to jackknife and he felt fortunate that no one was killed.  The asshole driver who caused it just drove off.  Young people don't want kind of BS. 

    A friend of his was cut off and killed a person...no fault of his...but that stays with you for life...who wants that's bs.
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  • Same in Chicago. During covid shutdown my commute was 55 minutes to and from. Now it’s about 55 there in the morning and can be up to 2 hours in the way home. Cars everywhere. Construction projects are at least every 10 miles of interstate road. If no one is working, where is everyone going?
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    edited October 2021
    I was talking to a lady in our Raley's grocery store the other day and she said they were 18 people short.  Other stores have had the same problem with worker shortage.  We've had some some repair issues that have taken a long time to resolve due to difficulty finding available hands to hire.   The work force is definitely down in our area.
    When COVID hit, a lot of people were out of work.  What happened?  Why are there so many worker vacancies now? Hasn't COVID mostly killed off the elderly and those with other health issues that made them more vulnerable?  With things opening up, have fewer people gone back to work?  Did the work force decrease because a lot of boomer aged people like myself decided once COVID hit, it was time to retire?  (That's basically what we did.   I'm no longer at the bookstore and my wife got out of her half of the business so now she is just consulting for the store and I'm just doing my little book business.)
    I'm curious about this.  Where did all the workers go? 
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  • FiveBelow
    FiveBelow Posts: 1,345
    OnWis97 said:
    Here's a thought on why people don't want to go back to work...
    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/10/19/1047032996/why-are-so-many-americans-quitting-their-jobs?fbclid=IwAR3P-sK5hgBMGIuHhA6FTuRyOfmot1o-hQpbtWIQyXpivbW3Evx36jcF8E0

    I'm probably blessed in my office-work-at-home life but I'm not feeling very many effects. We order a lot of stuff and aside from the occasional random thing seemingly disappearing from grocery store shelves for weeks and a couple of businesses having reduced hours, I'm not noticing much. But then again, I'm in a bubble.

    The biggest inconvenience I've had happened yesterday. I decided to call the vet because my dog has some bald spots. I found out yesterday that just about every veterinarian is scheduling out at least four weeks. So I waited a couple hours in vet urgent care and spent an extra $50 for an appointment because I think it might be ringworm (test now pending). But you ask about "...and your surrounding area." and it looks like this is a nationwide problem due in large part to a huge increase in pet ownership during the pandemic.
    Hope you don't have to wait long for ivermectin if it is indeed a worm. (thanks Joe Rogan & Alex Jones et al) 


    RE: Traffic, more people are on the roads in the Boston area, but I think a lot of people are opting to drive to work as opposed to taking the subway since offices reopened. 

    I work in manufacturing, and there are a lot of people panic buying, which isn't helping the supply chain. We're on pace to sell as many as 4X the amount of certain items that we sold last year, the usage has been impossible to anticipate. 

    People operating like they did in 2019 (i.e. waiting until the last minute to order product expecting it to be available) are screwed.

    It's a different world than it was 2 years ago. 

    For the record, we make our product right here, we don't import. 
    We have to order materials far in advance now.  It's like 2009-2010 all over again.

    I agree with people not using public transport again.

    What are you guys making that people are gobbling up?
    Same boat we are in. Lead times for construction materials are ever changing and if you don't anticipate or pay attention to trends, delays are bound to happen. We have to pull off of jobs all of the time because other subs can't stay out in front of us. Most times due to a lack of foresight or supply shortages. The main concern with this lasting too long is our already lagging infrastructure falling further behind. The majority of our contracts are with school districts and universities, it is amazing how overcrowded they are and truly in need of these additions and new facilities.

  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    OnWis97 said:
    Here's a thought on why people don't want to go back to work...
    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/10/19/1047032996/why-are-so-many-americans-quitting-their-jobs?fbclid=IwAR3P-sK5hgBMGIuHhA6FTuRyOfmot1o-hQpbtWIQyXpivbW3Evx36jcF8E0

    I'm probably blessed in my office-work-at-home life but I'm not feeling very many effects. We order a lot of stuff and aside from the occasional random thing seemingly disappearing from grocery store shelves for weeks and a couple of businesses having reduced hours, I'm not noticing much. But then again, I'm in a bubble.

    The biggest inconvenience I've had happened yesterday. I decided to call the vet because my dog has some bald spots. I found out yesterday that just about every veterinarian is scheduling out at least four weeks. So I waited a couple hours in vet urgent care and spent an extra $50 for an appointment because I think it might be ringworm (test now pending). But you ask about "...and your surrounding area." and it looks like this is a nationwide problem due in large part to a huge increase in pet ownership during the pandemic.
    Hope you don't have to wait long for ivermectin if it is indeed a worm. (thanks Joe Rogan & Alex Jones et al) 


    RE: Traffic, more people are on the roads in the Boston area, but I think a lot of people are opting to drive to work as opposed to taking the subway since offices reopened. 

    I work in manufacturing, and there are a lot of people panic buying, which isn't helping the supply chain. We're on pace to sell as many as 4X the amount of certain items that we sold last year, the usage has been impossible to anticipate. 

    People operating like they did in 2019 (i.e. waiting until the last minute to order product expecting it to be available) are screwed.

    It's a different world than it was 2 years ago. 

    For the record, we make our product right here, we don't import. 
    We have to order materials far in advance now.  It's like 2009-2010 all over again.

    I agree with people not using public transport again.

    What are you guys making that people are gobbling up?
    We have to order way in advance. It's a damn nightmare. On top of that, we've increased our manufacturing wages 5 times to try to attract new workers & it hasn't worked yet. 
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  • mfc2006 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Here's a thought on why people don't want to go back to work...
    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/10/19/1047032996/why-are-so-many-americans-quitting-their-jobs?fbclid=IwAR3P-sK5hgBMGIuHhA6FTuRyOfmot1o-hQpbtWIQyXpivbW3Evx36jcF8E0

    I'm probably blessed in my office-work-at-home life but I'm not feeling very many effects. We order a lot of stuff and aside from the occasional random thing seemingly disappearing from grocery store shelves for weeks and a couple of businesses having reduced hours, I'm not noticing much. But then again, I'm in a bubble.

    The biggest inconvenience I've had happened yesterday. I decided to call the vet because my dog has some bald spots. I found out yesterday that just about every veterinarian is scheduling out at least four weeks. So I waited a couple hours in vet urgent care and spent an extra $50 for an appointment because I think it might be ringworm (test now pending). But you ask about "...and your surrounding area." and it looks like this is a nationwide problem due in large part to a huge increase in pet ownership during the pandemic.
    Hope you don't have to wait long for ivermectin if it is indeed a worm. (thanks Joe Rogan & Alex Jones et al) 


    RE: Traffic, more people are on the roads in the Boston area, but I think a lot of people are opting to drive to work as opposed to taking the subway since offices reopened. 

    I work in manufacturing, and there are a lot of people panic buying, which isn't helping the supply chain. We're on pace to sell as many as 4X the amount of certain items that we sold last year, the usage has been impossible to anticipate. 

    People operating like they did in 2019 (i.e. waiting until the last minute to order product expecting it to be available) are screwed.

    It's a different world than it was 2 years ago. 

    For the record, we make our product right here, we don't import. 
    We have to order materials far in advance now.  It's like 2009-2010 all over again.

    I agree with people not using public transport again.

    What are you guys making that people are gobbling up?
    We have to order way in advance. It's a damn nightmare. On top of that, we've increased our manufacturing wages 5 times to try to attract new workers & it hasn't worked yet. 
    Just out of curiosity, what are you offering?  I'm curious if it's too low of pay to entice people?

    I thought $20 for a hospitality job in AC was pretty good.  Doing fast food or a restaurant?  not so much.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    mfc2006 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    Here's a thought on why people don't want to go back to work...
    https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2021/10/19/1047032996/why-are-so-many-americans-quitting-their-jobs?fbclid=IwAR3P-sK5hgBMGIuHhA6FTuRyOfmot1o-hQpbtWIQyXpivbW3Evx36jcF8E0

    I'm probably blessed in my office-work-at-home life but I'm not feeling very many effects. We order a lot of stuff and aside from the occasional random thing seemingly disappearing from grocery store shelves for weeks and a couple of businesses having reduced hours, I'm not noticing much. But then again, I'm in a bubble.

    The biggest inconvenience I've had happened yesterday. I decided to call the vet because my dog has some bald spots. I found out yesterday that just about every veterinarian is scheduling out at least four weeks. So I waited a couple hours in vet urgent care and spent an extra $50 for an appointment because I think it might be ringworm (test now pending). But you ask about "...and your surrounding area." and it looks like this is a nationwide problem due in large part to a huge increase in pet ownership during the pandemic.
    Hope you don't have to wait long for ivermectin if it is indeed a worm. (thanks Joe Rogan & Alex Jones et al) 


    RE: Traffic, more people are on the roads in the Boston area, but I think a lot of people are opting to drive to work as opposed to taking the subway since offices reopened. 

    I work in manufacturing, and there are a lot of people panic buying, which isn't helping the supply chain. We're on pace to sell as many as 4X the amount of certain items that we sold last year, the usage has been impossible to anticipate. 

    People operating like they did in 2019 (i.e. waiting until the last minute to order product expecting it to be available) are screwed.

    It's a different world than it was 2 years ago. 

    For the record, we make our product right here, we don't import. 
    We have to order materials far in advance now.  It's like 2009-2010 all over again.

    I agree with people not using public transport again.

    What are you guys making that people are gobbling up?
    We have to order way in advance. It's a damn nightmare. On top of that, we've increased our manufacturing wages 5 times to try to attract new workers & it hasn't worked yet. 
    Just out of curiosity, what are you offering?  I'm curious if it's too low of pay to entice people?

    I thought $20 for a hospitality job in AC was pretty good.  Doing fast food or a restaurant?  not so much.
    It depends on their experience/skill set in manufacturing. It's anywhere from $20-30/hr + benefits. 
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