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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Yea, lets go Brandon!

    A-31. Unemployed persons by industry, class of worker, and sex (bls.gov)

    Table 1. Job openings levels and rates by industry and region, seasonally adjusted (bls.gov)

    Job Openings and Labor Turnover Summary

    For release 10:00 a.m. (ET) Tuesday, October 12, 2021	USDL-21-1830
Technical information:	(202) 691-5870  •  JoltsInfo@bls.gov  •  www.bls.gov/jlt
Media contact:		(202) 691-5902  •  PressOffice@bls.gov

			      JOB OPENINGS AND LABOR TURNOVER – AUGUST 2021

The number of job openings declined to 10.4 million on the last business day of August following a 
series high in July, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Hires decreased to 6.3 million 
while total separations were little changed at 6.0 million. Within separations, the quits rate increased to a 
series high of 2.9 percent while the layoffs and discharges rate was little changed at 0.9 percent. This 
release includes estimates of the number and rate of job openings, hires, and separations for the total 
nonfarm sector, by industry, by four geographic regions, and by establishment size class. 
   
Job Openings

On the last business day of August, the number and rate of job openings decreased to 10.4 million        
(-659,000) and 6.6 percent, respectively. Job openings decreased in several industries with the largest 
decreases in health care and social assistance (-224,000); accommodation and food services (-178,000); 
and state and local government education (-124,000). Job openings increased in federal government 
(+22,000). The number of job openings decreased in the Northeast and Midwest regions. (See table 1.)

Hires

In August, the number and rate of hires decreased to 6.3 million (-439,000) and 4.3 percent, 
respectively. Hires decreased in accommodation and food services (-240,000) and in state and local 
government education (-160,000). The number of hires decreased in the Midwest region. (See table 2.)

Separations

Total separations includes quits, layoffs and discharges, and other separations. Quits are generally 
voluntary separations initiated by the employee. Therefore, the quits rate can serve as a measure of 
workers’ willingness or ability to leave jobs. Layoffs and discharges are involuntary separations initiated 
by the employer. Other separations includes separations due to retirement, death, disability, and transfers 
to other locations of the same firm.

In August, the number and rate of total separations were little changed at 6.0 million and 4.1 percent, 
respectively. The total separations level increased in accommodation and food services (+203,000) and 
in state and local government education (+57,000). The total separations level decreased in other 
services (-68,000) and in state and local government, excluding education (-26,000). Total separations 
were little changed in all four regions. (See table 3.)

The number of quits increased in August to 4.3 million (+242,000). The quits rate increased to a series 
high of 2.9 percent. Quits increased in accommodation and food services (+157,000); wholesale trade 
(+26,000); and state and local government education (+25,000). Quits decreased in real estate and rental 
and leasing (-23,000). The number of quits increased in the South and Midwest regions. (See table 4.)

In August, the number and rate of layoffs and discharges were little changed at 1.3 million and 0.9 
percent, respectively. Layoffs and discharges decreased in other services (-61,000) and in state and local 
government, excluding education (-22,000). Layoffs and discharges increased in state and local 
government education (+19,000). Layoffs and discharges were little changed in all four regions. (See 
table 5.)

The number of other separations edged up in August to 390,000 (+49,000). Other separations increased 
in several industries with the largest increases in state and local government education (+13,000); 
information (+11,000); and durable goods manufacturing (+8,000). The other separations level increased 
in the West region. (See table 6.) 

Net Change in Employment

Large numbers of hires and separations occur every month throughout the business cycle. Net 
employment change results from the relationship between hires and separations. When the number of 
hires exceeds the number of separations, employment rises, even if the hires level is steady or declining. 
Conversely, when the number of hires is less than the number of separations, employment declines, even 
if the hires level is steady or rising.

Over the 12 months ending in August 2021, hires totaled 72.6 million and separations totaled 66.7 
million, yielding a net employment gain of 5.9 million. These totals include workers who may have been 
hired and separated more than once during the year.

Establishment Size Class

In August, the job openings rate decreased in medium establishments with 50-249 employees. The hires 
rate decreased in large establishments with 250-999 employees. The layoffs and discharges rate 
decreased in medium establishments with 50-249 employees. The other separations rate decreased in 
large establishments with 1,000-4,999 employees. For a more in-depth description of the JOLTS 
establishment size class estimates, please visit www.bls.gov/jlt/sizeclassmethodology.htm.

_____________	
The Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey estimates for September 2021 are scheduled to be 
released on Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:00 a.m. (ET).
    What do they mean by a "separation"?  

    if I am reading this right the hiring was higher than actual jobs which means there is a heavy turnover rate?
    5.9 million represents new jobs created. Separations were folks leaving existing jobs but a new hire was hired, I believe. People leaving to find better opportunity, found FT work, quit one PT job, all of which someone else stepped into. Also, its holiday seasonal hiring time. Amazon is offering $22.50/hour and a $3K signing bonus. Labor churn.

    Have you been to the super market lately? Its mostly "personal" shoppers clogging up the aisles looking at their phones for Amazon and other home grocery delivery services. Pain in the ass.
    YES on the personal shopping people.  I have noticed a huge influx of them!!!

    OK so new jobs are being created and older jobs aren't being fulfilled.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    In a nutshell:

    It’s time for Americans to buy less stuff

    We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our homes, isn’t good for the environment. Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits, especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.



    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    brianlux said:
    In a nutshell:

    It’s time for Americans to buy less stuff

    We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our homes, isn’t good for the environment. Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits, especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.



    Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.

    Have you seen the cost of concert tickets?  I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,367
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    In a nutshell:

    It’s time for Americans to buy less stuff

    We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our homes, isn’t good for the environment. Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits, especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.



    Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.

    Have you seen the cost of concert tickets?  I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.

    making up for lost revenue. and also normalizing these prices so they can continue....

    so for live music, smaller venues, smaller bands, bars and bar bands.....
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    In a nutshell:

    It’s time for Americans to buy less stuff

    We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our homes, isn’t good for the environment. Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits, especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.



    Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.

    Have you seen the cost of concert tickets?  I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.

    No doubt, but doesn't our unfettered addiction to buying simply feed that monster?  As long as people in first world countries continue to over-consume good (which in turn are consuming the planet that sustains us), especially throw-away crap, companies and corporations are going to continue grab all they can.  It's sickness on two levels:  consumption sickness and greed with no regard for the future sickness.  We're the upper end of the food chain and we're self-destructing.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    mickeyrat said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    In a nutshell:

    It’s time for Americans to buy less stuff

    We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our homes, isn’t good for the environment. Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits, especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.



    Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.

    Have you seen the cost of concert tickets?  I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.

    making up for lost revenue. and also normalizing these prices so they can continue....

    so for live music, smaller venues, smaller bands, bars and bar bands.....
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    In a nutshell:

    It’s time for Americans to buy less stuff

    We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our homes, isn’t good for the environment. Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits, especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.



    Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.

    Have you seen the cost of concert tickets?  I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.

    No doubt, but doesn't our unfettered addiction to buying simply feed that monster?  As long as people in first world countries continue to over-consume good (which in turn are consuming the planet that sustains us), especially throw-away crap, companies and corporations are going to continue grab all they can.  It's sickness on two levels:  consumption sickness and greed with no regard for the future sickness.  We're the upper end of the food chain and we're self-destructing.
    I have slowed down a bunch.  I bought 1 PJ sticker of the canceled tour.  Bought a few things at SHN mostly for other people and kept a shirt poster and shorts.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,072
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    In a nutshell:

    It’s time for Americans to buy less stuff

    We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our homes, isn’t good for the environment. Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits, especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.



    Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.

    Have you seen the cost of concert tickets?  I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.

    No doubt, but doesn't our unfettered addiction to buying simply feed that monster?  As long as people in first world countries continue to over-consume good (which in turn are consuming the planet that sustains us), especially throw-away crap, companies and corporations are going to continue grab all they can.  It's sickness on two levels:  consumption sickness and greed with no regard for the future sickness.  We're the upper end of the food chain and we're self-destructing.
    Way to advocate for killing the economy *s*
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    static111 said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    In a nutshell:

    It’s time for Americans to buy less stuff

    We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our homes, isn’t good for the environment. Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits, especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.



    Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.

    Have you seen the cost of concert tickets?  I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.

    No doubt, but doesn't our unfettered addiction to buying simply feed that monster?  As long as people in first world countries continue to over-consume good (which in turn are consuming the planet that sustains us), especially throw-away crap, companies and corporations are going to continue grab all they can.  It's sickness on two levels:  consumption sickness and greed with no regard for the future sickness.  We're the upper end of the food chain and we're self-destructing.
    Way to advocate for killing the economy *s*

    Perhaps I should say, "thank you", except that I think you are hyperbolizing.  
    The "economy" of the first world as it exists is consuming more resources than the planet each year than it can provide.  A quick look here will confirm what I mean by that:
    https://www.overshootday.org/
    My view point is not so much oriented toward "killing the economy" as it it toward advocating a restructuring of it in a manner that is sustainable and enduring.  The economy of consumption and waste is self-defeating and, eventually, suicidal.  Surely that is not something for which you would advocate, is it?

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,072
    brianlux said:
    static111 said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    In a nutshell:

    It’s time for Americans to buy less stuff

    We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our homes, isn’t good for the environment. Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits, especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.



    Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.

    Have you seen the cost of concert tickets?  I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.

    No doubt, but doesn't our unfettered addiction to buying simply feed that monster?  As long as people in first world countries continue to over-consume good (which in turn are consuming the planet that sustains us), especially throw-away crap, companies and corporations are going to continue grab all they can.  It's sickness on two levels:  consumption sickness and greed with no regard for the future sickness.  We're the upper end of the food chain and we're self-destructing.
    Way to advocate for killing the economy *s*

    Perhaps I should say, "thank you", except that I think you are hyperbolizing.  
    The "economy" of the first world as it exists is consuming more resources than the planet each year than it can provide.  A quick look here will confirm what I mean by that:
    https://www.overshootday.org/
    My view point is not so much oriented toward "killing the economy" as it it toward advocating a restructuring of it in a manner that is sustainable and enduring.  The economy of consumption and waste is self-defeating and, eventually, suicidal.  Surely that is not something for which you would advocate, is it?

    *s* is for sarcasm.  I agree with you, but unfortunately many believe that consuming and driving the economy is the most important virtue of true american patriots.
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    static111 said:
    brianlux said:
    static111 said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    In a nutshell:

    It’s time for Americans to buy less stuff

    We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our homes, isn’t good for the environment. Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits, especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.



    Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.

    Have you seen the cost of concert tickets?  I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.

    No doubt, but doesn't our unfettered addiction to buying simply feed that monster?  As long as people in first world countries continue to over-consume good (which in turn are consuming the planet that sustains us), especially throw-away crap, companies and corporations are going to continue grab all they can.  It's sickness on two levels:  consumption sickness and greed with no regard for the future sickness.  We're the upper end of the food chain and we're self-destructing.
    Way to advocate for killing the economy *s*

    Perhaps I should say, "thank you", except that I think you are hyperbolizing.  
    The "economy" of the first world as it exists is consuming more resources than the planet each year than it can provide.  A quick look here will confirm what I mean by that:
    https://www.overshootday.org/
    My view point is not so much oriented toward "killing the economy" as it it toward advocating a restructuring of it in a manner that is sustainable and enduring.  The economy of consumption and waste is self-defeating and, eventually, suicidal.  Surely that is not something for which you would advocate, is it?

    *s* is for sarcasm.  I agree with you, but unfortunately many believe that consuming and driving the economy is the most important virtue of true american patriots.

    Ah!  Thanks for verifying that!  I'm a little slow on the uptake this morning.  :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Out of My Mind and Time
    Out of My Mind and Time Posts: 1,333
    Wow. I guess you can judge a book by its cover 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    edited October 2021
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Wow. I guess you can judge a book by its cover 

    Meaning...?
    Come on- no hit and run jabs.  What's the beef?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    brianlux said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Wow. I guess you can judge a book by its cover 

    Meaning...?
    Come on- no hit and run jabs.  What's the beef?
    Who cares.  Let's talk about supp;y chains!
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,830
    dankind said:
    My wife's place of employment just changed its policy from OK'ing perennial remote work to requiring three days a week in the office. She immediately started applying to other jobs. 

    So privileged.

    :cry:
    Do they have any protocols in place at work? There have been people going to work the entire pandemic in large manufacturing settings with no transmission (at least none recorded, could be asymptomatic I suppose).
    hippiemom = goodness
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Wow. I guess you can judge a book by its cover 

    Meaning...?
    Come on- no hit and run jabs.  What's the beef?
    Who cares.  Let's talk about supp;y chains!
    Does wearing jewelry by men especially a neck chain show a sign of irresponsibility in the men in question - Quora
    "Hey sucka, there ain't no supply shortage of chains!"


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    brianlux said:
    Out of My Mind and Time said:
    Wow. I guess you can judge a book by its cover 

    Meaning...?
    Come on- no hit and run jabs.  What's the beef?
    Who cares.  Let's talk about supp;y chains!
    Does wearing jewelry by men especially a neck chain show a sign of irresponsibility in the men in question - Quora
    "Hey sucka, there ain't no supply shortage of chains!"


    haha
    I LOVE MUSIC.
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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Already on the news we are hearing about price hikes for Christmas...
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Don't spend...

    Other than food and the necessities what more do most people need...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    Meltdown99 said:
    Don't spend...

    Other than food and the necessities what more do most people need...
    I'm buying Mike Trout cards...  Nothing else now.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    NPR had the person in charge of the Oakland port.  He was begging for ships to come his way as they have room and the manpower to get ships unloaded in a quickness.

    Also mentioned was the amount of empty seacan containers, rail carts, whatever you like to call them, are in abundance because ships are not taking them back with them.  I find this odd considering here in NY we couldn't "find" any through the distributor.  Yes there are people who deal in these seacans.  Our company paid a premium for 2 of them.  I think we got hosed.

    Another reason for the supply chain problems is keeping shelves stocked.  Americans are buying more than ever as mentioned earlier in this thread.

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