173,622 between the ages of 18-64. Add another 353,083 between the ages of 65-84, some of whom were probably care givers to young children of the working ages and you get an impact. Also, how many of both of these may have been business owners, who after dying from covid, their business shut down? However, I think its more likely that folks re-prioritized their lives and started their own businesses, took one better paying job over 2 or 3 PT or retired early. The 9-5 rat race may very well have been upended. Time will tell. Kids graduating from college in May/June will have options though.
My wife's place of employment just changed its policy from OK'ing perennial remote work to requiring three days a week in the office. She immediately started applying to other jobs.
My wife's place of employment just changed its policy from OK'ing perennial remote work to requiring three days a week in the office. She immediately started applying to other jobs.
173,622 between the ages of 18-64. Add another 353,083 between the ages of 65-84, some of whom were probably care givers to young children of the working ages and you get an impact. Also, how many of both of these may have been business owners, who after dying from covid, their business shut down? However, I think its more likely that folks re-prioritized their lives and started their own businesses, took one better paying job over 2 or 3 PT or retired early. The 9-5 rat race may very well have been upended. Time will tell. Kids graduating from college in May/June will have options though.
Interesting point. I don't think it has that much baring on the US labor force as a whole though. That is a very low percentage of the workforce IMO.
It will be interesting to see a model of all this and how it all went down in a few months when someone figured it out.
Something tells me I need to look for more work, lol.
My wife's place of employment just changed its policy from OK'ing perennial remote work to requiring three days a week in the office. She immediately started applying to other jobs.
So privileged.
Good for her!
I mean, I think her job sucks. (I believe I've noted that here.)
Having said that, I also think her reason for looking elsewhere sucks.
My wife's place of employment just changed its policy from OK'ing perennial remote work to requiring three days a week in the office. She immediately started applying to other jobs.
So privileged.
Good for her!
I mean, I think her job sucks. (I believe I've noted that here.)
Having said that, I also think her reason for looking elsewhere sucks.
Must be nice, though....
Well, if she works for the Feds or at an organization that receives federal funding, she can be exempt from being fully vaccinated, continue to work, if she works outside the US 100% of the time in addition to religious or immunocompromised exemptions. Could be a ticket out?
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JOB OPENINGS AND LABOR TURNOVER – AUGUST 2021
The number of job openings declined to 10.4 million on the last business day of August following a
series high in July, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Hires decreased to 6.3 million
while total separations were little changed at 6.0 million. Within separations, the quits rate increased to a
series high of 2.9 percent while the layoffs and discharges rate was little changed at 0.9 percent. This
release includes estimates of the number and rate of job openings, hires, and separations for the total
nonfarm sector, by industry, by four geographic regions, and by establishment size class.
Job Openings
On the last business day of August, the number and rate of job openings decreased to 10.4 million
(-659,000) and 6.6 percent, respectively. Job openings decreased in several industries with the largest
decreases in health care and social assistance (-224,000); accommodation and food services (-178,000);
and state and local government education (-124,000). Job openings increased in federal government
(+22,000). The number of job openings decreased in the Northeast and Midwest regions. (See table 1.)
Hires
In August, the number and rate of hires decreased to 6.3 million (-439,000) and 4.3 percent,
respectively. Hires decreased in accommodation and food services (-240,000) and in state and local
government education (-160,000). The number of hires decreased in the Midwest region. (See table 2.)
Separations
Total separations includes quits, layoffs and discharges, and other separations. Quits are generally
voluntary separations initiated by the employee. Therefore, the quits rate can serve as a measure of
workers’ willingness or ability to leave jobs. Layoffs and discharges are involuntary separations initiated
by the employer. Other separations includes separations due to retirement, death, disability, and transfers
to other locations of the same firm.
In August, the number and rate of total separations were little changed at 6.0 million and 4.1 percent,
respectively. The total separations level increased in accommodation and food services (+203,000) and
in state and local government education (+57,000). The total separations level decreased in other
services (-68,000) and in state and local government, excluding education (-26,000). Total separations
were little changed in all four regions. (See table 3.)
The number of quits increased in August to 4.3 million (+242,000). The quits rate increased to a series
high of 2.9 percent. Quits increased in accommodation and food services (+157,000); wholesale trade
(+26,000); and state and local government education (+25,000). Quits decreased in real estate and rental
and leasing (-23,000). The number of quits increased in the South and Midwest regions. (See table 4.)
In August, the number and rate of layoffs and discharges were little changed at 1.3 million and 0.9
percent, respectively. Layoffs and discharges decreased in other services (-61,000) and in state and local
government, excluding education (-22,000). Layoffs and discharges increased in state and local
government education (+19,000). Layoffs and discharges were little changed in all four regions. (See
table 5.)
The number of other separations edged up in August to 390,000 (+49,000). Other separations increased
in several industries with the largest increases in state and local government education (+13,000);
information (+11,000); and durable goods manufacturing (+8,000). The other separations level increased
in the West region. (See table 6.)
Net Change in Employment
Large numbers of hires and separations occur every month throughout the business cycle. Net
employment change results from the relationship between hires and separations. When the number of
hires exceeds the number of separations, employment rises, even if the hires level is steady or declining.
Conversely, when the number of hires is less than the number of separations, employment declines, even
if the hires level is steady or rising.
Over the 12 months ending in August 2021, hires totaled 72.6 million and separations totaled 66.7
million, yielding a net employment gain of 5.9 million. These totals include workers who may have been
hired and separated more than once during the year.
Establishment Size Class
In August, the job openings rate decreased in medium establishments with 50-249 employees. The hires
rate decreased in large establishments with 250-999 employees. The layoffs and discharges rate
decreased in medium establishments with 50-249 employees. The other separations rate decreased in
large establishments with 1,000-4,999 employees. For a more in-depth description of the JOLTS
establishment size class estimates, please visit www.bls.gov/jlt/sizeclassmethodology.htm.
_____________
The Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey estimates for September 2021 are scheduled to be
released on Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:00 a.m. (ET).
My wife's place of employment just changed its policy from OK'ing perennial remote work to requiring three days a week in the office. She immediately started applying to other jobs.
So privileged.
Good for her!
I mean, I think her job sucks. (I believe I've noted that here.)
Having said that, I also think her reason for looking elsewhere sucks.
Must be nice, though....
Well, if she works for the Feds or at an organization that receives federal funding, she can be exempt from being fully vaccinated, continue to work, if she works outside the US 100% of the time in addition to religious or immunocompromised exemptions. Could be a ticket out?
Yeah. She's a federally funded health policy wonk. Waste of fucking time, if you ask me.
I would've quit (or been fired) because of the cannabis policy a long time ago. (In fact, she could get fired because of me! )
I would not, however, quit just because my work wants me to (um) go to work. That's weak sauce!
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JOB OPENINGS AND LABOR TURNOVER – AUGUST 2021
The number of job openings declined to 10.4 million on the last business day of August following a
series high in July, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Hires decreased to 6.3 million
while total separations were little changed at 6.0 million. Within separations, the quits rate increased to a
series high of 2.9 percent while the layoffs and discharges rate was little changed at 0.9 percent. This
release includes estimates of the number and rate of job openings, hires, and separations for the total
nonfarm sector, by industry, by four geographic regions, and by establishment size class.
Job Openings
On the last business day of August, the number and rate of job openings decreased to 10.4 million
(-659,000) and 6.6 percent, respectively. Job openings decreased in several industries with the largest
decreases in health care and social assistance (-224,000); accommodation and food services (-178,000);
and state and local government education (-124,000). Job openings increased in federal government
(+22,000). The number of job openings decreased in the Northeast and Midwest regions. (See table 1.)
Hires
In August, the number and rate of hires decreased to 6.3 million (-439,000) and 4.3 percent,
respectively. Hires decreased in accommodation and food services (-240,000) and in state and local
government education (-160,000). The number of hires decreased in the Midwest region. (See table 2.)
Separations
Total separations includes quits, layoffs and discharges, and other separations. Quits are generally
voluntary separations initiated by the employee. Therefore, the quits rate can serve as a measure of
workers’ willingness or ability to leave jobs. Layoffs and discharges are involuntary separations initiated
by the employer. Other separations includes separations due to retirement, death, disability, and transfers
to other locations of the same firm.
In August, the number and rate of total separations were little changed at 6.0 million and 4.1 percent,
respectively. The total separations level increased in accommodation and food services (+203,000) and
in state and local government education (+57,000). The total separations level decreased in other
services (-68,000) and in state and local government, excluding education (-26,000). Total separations
were little changed in all four regions. (See table 3.)
The number of quits increased in August to 4.3 million (+242,000). The quits rate increased to a series
high of 2.9 percent. Quits increased in accommodation and food services (+157,000); wholesale trade
(+26,000); and state and local government education (+25,000). Quits decreased in real estate and rental
and leasing (-23,000). The number of quits increased in the South and Midwest regions. (See table 4.)
In August, the number and rate of layoffs and discharges were little changed at 1.3 million and 0.9
percent, respectively. Layoffs and discharges decreased in other services (-61,000) and in state and local
government, excluding education (-22,000). Layoffs and discharges increased in state and local
government education (+19,000). Layoffs and discharges were little changed in all four regions. (See
table 5.)
The number of other separations edged up in August to 390,000 (+49,000). Other separations increased
in several industries with the largest increases in state and local government education (+13,000);
information (+11,000); and durable goods manufacturing (+8,000). The other separations level increased
in the West region. (See table 6.)
Net Change in Employment
Large numbers of hires and separations occur every month throughout the business cycle. Net
employment change results from the relationship between hires and separations. When the number of
hires exceeds the number of separations, employment rises, even if the hires level is steady or declining.
Conversely, when the number of hires is less than the number of separations, employment declines, even
if the hires level is steady or rising.
Over the 12 months ending in August 2021, hires totaled 72.6 million and separations totaled 66.7
million, yielding a net employment gain of 5.9 million. These totals include workers who may have been
hired and separated more than once during the year.
Establishment Size Class
In August, the job openings rate decreased in medium establishments with 50-249 employees. The hires
rate decreased in large establishments with 250-999 employees. The layoffs and discharges rate
decreased in medium establishments with 50-249 employees. The other separations rate decreased in
large establishments with 1,000-4,999 employees. For a more in-depth description of the JOLTS
establishment size class estimates, please visit www.bls.gov/jlt/sizeclassmethodology.htm.
_____________
The Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey estimates for September 2021 are scheduled to be
released on Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:00 a.m. (ET).
What do they mean by a "separation"?
if I am reading this right the hiring was higher than actual jobs which means there is a heavy turnover rate?
For release 10:00 a.m. (ET) Tuesday, October 12, 2021 USDL-21-1830
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Media contact: (202) 691-5902 • PressOffice@bls.gov
JOB OPENINGS AND LABOR TURNOVER – AUGUST 2021
The number of job openings declined to 10.4 million on the last business day of August following a
series high in July, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Hires decreased to 6.3 million
while total separations were little changed at 6.0 million. Within separations, the quits rate increased to a
series high of 2.9 percent while the layoffs and discharges rate was little changed at 0.9 percent. This
release includes estimates of the number and rate of job openings, hires, and separations for the total
nonfarm sector, by industry, by four geographic regions, and by establishment size class.
Job Openings
On the last business day of August, the number and rate of job openings decreased to 10.4 million
(-659,000) and 6.6 percent, respectively. Job openings decreased in several industries with the largest
decreases in health care and social assistance (-224,000); accommodation and food services (-178,000);
and state and local government education (-124,000). Job openings increased in federal government
(+22,000). The number of job openings decreased in the Northeast and Midwest regions. (See table 1.)
Hires
In August, the number and rate of hires decreased to 6.3 million (-439,000) and 4.3 percent,
respectively. Hires decreased in accommodation and food services (-240,000) and in state and local
government education (-160,000). The number of hires decreased in the Midwest region. (See table 2.)
Separations
Total separations includes quits, layoffs and discharges, and other separations. Quits are generally
voluntary separations initiated by the employee. Therefore, the quits rate can serve as a measure of
workers’ willingness or ability to leave jobs. Layoffs and discharges are involuntary separations initiated
by the employer. Other separations includes separations due to retirement, death, disability, and transfers
to other locations of the same firm.
In August, the number and rate of total separations were little changed at 6.0 million and 4.1 percent,
respectively. The total separations level increased in accommodation and food services (+203,000) and
in state and local government education (+57,000). The total separations level decreased in other
services (-68,000) and in state and local government, excluding education (-26,000). Total separations
were little changed in all four regions. (See table 3.)
The number of quits increased in August to 4.3 million (+242,000). The quits rate increased to a series
high of 2.9 percent. Quits increased in accommodation and food services (+157,000); wholesale trade
(+26,000); and state and local government education (+25,000). Quits decreased in real estate and rental
and leasing (-23,000). The number of quits increased in the South and Midwest regions. (See table 4.)
In August, the number and rate of layoffs and discharges were little changed at 1.3 million and 0.9
percent, respectively. Layoffs and discharges decreased in other services (-61,000) and in state and local
government, excluding education (-22,000). Layoffs and discharges increased in state and local
government education (+19,000). Layoffs and discharges were little changed in all four regions. (See
table 5.)
The number of other separations edged up in August to 390,000 (+49,000). Other separations increased
in several industries with the largest increases in state and local government education (+13,000);
information (+11,000); and durable goods manufacturing (+8,000). The other separations level increased
in the West region. (See table 6.)
Net Change in Employment
Large numbers of hires and separations occur every month throughout the business cycle. Net
employment change results from the relationship between hires and separations. When the number of
hires exceeds the number of separations, employment rises, even if the hires level is steady or declining.
Conversely, when the number of hires is less than the number of separations, employment declines, even
if the hires level is steady or rising.
Over the 12 months ending in August 2021, hires totaled 72.6 million and separations totaled 66.7
million, yielding a net employment gain of 5.9 million. These totals include workers who may have been
hired and separated more than once during the year.
Establishment Size Class
In August, the job openings rate decreased in medium establishments with 50-249 employees. The hires
rate decreased in large establishments with 250-999 employees. The layoffs and discharges rate
decreased in medium establishments with 50-249 employees. The other separations rate decreased in
large establishments with 1,000-4,999 employees. For a more in-depth description of the JOLTS
establishment size class estimates, please visit www.bls.gov/jlt/sizeclassmethodology.htm.
_____________
The Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey estimates for September 2021 are scheduled to be
released on Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:00 a.m. (ET).
What do they mean by a "separation"?
if I am reading this right the hiring was higher than actual jobs which means there is a heavy turnover rate?
5.9 million represents new jobs created. Separations were folks leaving existing jobs but a new hire was hired, I believe. People leaving to find better opportunity, found FT work, quit one PT job, all of which someone else stepped into. Also, its holiday seasonal hiring time. Amazon is offering $22.50/hour and a $3K signing bonus. Labor churn.
Have you been to the super market lately? Its mostly "personal" shoppers clogging up the aisles looking at their phones for Amazon and other home grocery delivery services. Pain in the ass.
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Media contact: (202) 691-5902 • PressOffice@bls.gov
JOB OPENINGS AND LABOR TURNOVER – AUGUST 2021
The number of job openings declined to 10.4 million on the last business day of August following a
series high in July, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Hires decreased to 6.3 million
while total separations were little changed at 6.0 million. Within separations, the quits rate increased to a
series high of 2.9 percent while the layoffs and discharges rate was little changed at 0.9 percent. This
release includes estimates of the number and rate of job openings, hires, and separations for the total
nonfarm sector, by industry, by four geographic regions, and by establishment size class.
Job Openings
On the last business day of August, the number and rate of job openings decreased to 10.4 million
(-659,000) and 6.6 percent, respectively. Job openings decreased in several industries with the largest
decreases in health care and social assistance (-224,000); accommodation and food services (-178,000);
and state and local government education (-124,000). Job openings increased in federal government
(+22,000). The number of job openings decreased in the Northeast and Midwest regions. (See table 1.)
Hires
In August, the number and rate of hires decreased to 6.3 million (-439,000) and 4.3 percent,
respectively. Hires decreased in accommodation and food services (-240,000) and in state and local
government education (-160,000). The number of hires decreased in the Midwest region. (See table 2.)
Separations
Total separations includes quits, layoffs and discharges, and other separations. Quits are generally
voluntary separations initiated by the employee. Therefore, the quits rate can serve as a measure of
workers’ willingness or ability to leave jobs. Layoffs and discharges are involuntary separations initiated
by the employer. Other separations includes separations due to retirement, death, disability, and transfers
to other locations of the same firm.
In August, the number and rate of total separations were little changed at 6.0 million and 4.1 percent,
respectively. The total separations level increased in accommodation and food services (+203,000) and
in state and local government education (+57,000). The total separations level decreased in other
services (-68,000) and in state and local government, excluding education (-26,000). Total separations
were little changed in all four regions. (See table 3.)
The number of quits increased in August to 4.3 million (+242,000). The quits rate increased to a series
high of 2.9 percent. Quits increased in accommodation and food services (+157,000); wholesale trade
(+26,000); and state and local government education (+25,000). Quits decreased in real estate and rental
and leasing (-23,000). The number of quits increased in the South and Midwest regions. (See table 4.)
In August, the number and rate of layoffs and discharges were little changed at 1.3 million and 0.9
percent, respectively. Layoffs and discharges decreased in other services (-61,000) and in state and local
government, excluding education (-22,000). Layoffs and discharges increased in state and local
government education (+19,000). Layoffs and discharges were little changed in all four regions. (See
table 5.)
The number of other separations edged up in August to 390,000 (+49,000). Other separations increased
in several industries with the largest increases in state and local government education (+13,000);
information (+11,000); and durable goods manufacturing (+8,000). The other separations level increased
in the West region. (See table 6.)
Net Change in Employment
Large numbers of hires and separations occur every month throughout the business cycle. Net
employment change results from the relationship between hires and separations. When the number of
hires exceeds the number of separations, employment rises, even if the hires level is steady or declining.
Conversely, when the number of hires is less than the number of separations, employment declines, even
if the hires level is steady or rising.
Over the 12 months ending in August 2021, hires totaled 72.6 million and separations totaled 66.7
million, yielding a net employment gain of 5.9 million. These totals include workers who may have been
hired and separated more than once during the year.
Establishment Size Class
In August, the job openings rate decreased in medium establishments with 50-249 employees. The hires
rate decreased in large establishments with 250-999 employees. The layoffs and discharges rate
decreased in medium establishments with 50-249 employees. The other separations rate decreased in
large establishments with 1,000-4,999 employees. For a more in-depth description of the JOLTS
establishment size class estimates, please visit www.bls.gov/jlt/sizeclassmethodology.htm.
_____________
The Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey estimates for September 2021 are scheduled to be
released on Friday, November 12, 2021 at 10:00 a.m. (ET).
What do they mean by a "separation"?
if I am reading this right the hiring was higher than actual jobs which means there is a heavy turnover rate?
5.9 million represents new jobs created. Separations were folks leaving existing jobs but a new hire was hired, I believe. People leaving to find better opportunity, found FT work, quit one PT job, all of which someone else stepped into. Also, its holiday seasonal hiring time. Amazon is offering $22.50/hour and a $3K signing bonus. Labor churn.
Have you been to the super market lately? Its mostly "personal" shoppers clogging up the aisles looking at their phones for Amazon and other home grocery delivery services. Pain in the ass.
YES on the personal shopping people. I have noticed a huge influx of them!!!
OK so new jobs are being created and older jobs aren't being fulfilled.
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,289
We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the
creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our
homes, isn’t good for the environment.
Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption
is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season
where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit
via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits,
especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle
class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than
the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the
creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our
homes, isn’t good for the environment.
Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption
is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season
where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit
via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits,
especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle
class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than
the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.
Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.
Have you seen the cost of concert tickets? I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.
We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the
creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our
homes, isn’t good for the environment.
Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption
is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season
where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit
via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits,
especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle
class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than
the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.
Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.
Have you seen the cost of concert tickets? I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.
making up for lost revenue. and also normalizing these prices so they can continue....
so for live music, smaller venues, smaller bands, bars and bar bands.....
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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brianlux
Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,289
We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the
creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our
homes, isn’t good for the environment.
Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption
is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season
where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit
via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits,
especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle
class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than
the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.
Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.
Have you seen the cost of concert tickets? I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.
No doubt, but doesn't our unfettered addiction to buying simply feed that monster? As long as people in first world countries continue to over-consume good (which in turn are consuming the planet that sustains us), especially throw-away crap, companies and corporations are going to continue grab all they can. It's sickness on two levels: consumption sickness and greed with no regard for the future sickness. We're the upper end of the food chain and we're self-destructing.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the
creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our
homes, isn’t good for the environment.
Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption
is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season
where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit
via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits,
especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle
class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than
the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.
Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.
Have you seen the cost of concert tickets? I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.
making up for lost revenue. and also normalizing these prices so they can continue....
so for live music, smaller venues, smaller bands, bars and bar bands.....
We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the
creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our
homes, isn’t good for the environment.
Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption
is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season
where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit
via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits,
especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle
class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than
the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.
Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.
Have you seen the cost of concert tickets? I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.
No doubt, but doesn't our unfettered addiction to buying simply feed that monster? As long as people in first world countries continue to over-consume good (which in turn are consuming the planet that sustains us), especially throw-away crap, companies and corporations are going to continue grab all they can. It's sickness on two levels: consumption sickness and greed with no regard for the future sickness. We're the upper end of the food chain and we're self-destructing.
I have slowed down a bunch. I bought 1 PJ sticker of the canceled tour. Bought a few things at SHN mostly for other people and kept a shirt poster and shorts.
We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the
creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our
homes, isn’t good for the environment.
Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption
is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season
where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit
via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits,
especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle
class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than
the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.
Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.
Have you seen the cost of concert tickets? I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.
No doubt, but doesn't our unfettered addiction to buying simply feed that monster? As long as people in first world countries continue to over-consume good (which in turn are consuming the planet that sustains us), especially throw-away crap, companies and corporations are going to continue grab all they can. It's sickness on two levels: consumption sickness and greed with no regard for the future sickness. We're the upper end of the food chain and we're self-destructing.
Way to advocate for killing the economy *s*
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We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the
creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our
homes, isn’t good for the environment.
Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption
is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season
where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit
via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits,
especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle
class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than
the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.
Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.
Have you seen the cost of concert tickets? I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.
No doubt, but doesn't our unfettered addiction to buying simply feed that monster? As long as people in first world countries continue to over-consume good (which in turn are consuming the planet that sustains us), especially throw-away crap, companies and corporations are going to continue grab all they can. It's sickness on two levels: consumption sickness and greed with no regard for the future sickness. We're the upper end of the food chain and we're self-destructing.
Way to advocate for killing the economy *s*
Perhaps I should say, "thank you", except that I think you are hyperbolizing. The "economy" of the first world as it exists is consuming more resources than the planet each year than it can provide. A quick look here will confirm what I mean by that:
https://www.overshootday.org/ My view point is not so much oriented toward "killing the economy" as it it toward advocating a restructuring of it in a manner that is sustainable and enduring. The economy of consumption and waste is self-defeating and, eventually, suicidal. Surely that is not something for which you would advocate, is it?
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the
creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our
homes, isn’t good for the environment.
Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption
is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season
where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit
via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits,
especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle
class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than
the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.
Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.
Have you seen the cost of concert tickets? I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.
No doubt, but doesn't our unfettered addiction to buying simply feed that monster? As long as people in first world countries continue to over-consume good (which in turn are consuming the planet that sustains us), especially throw-away crap, companies and corporations are going to continue grab all they can. It's sickness on two levels: consumption sickness and greed with no regard for the future sickness. We're the upper end of the food chain and we're self-destructing.
Way to advocate for killing the economy *s*
Perhaps I should say, "thank you", except that I think you are hyperbolizing. The "economy" of the first world as it exists is consuming more resources than the planet each year than it can provide. A quick look here will confirm what I mean by that:
https://www.overshootday.org/ My view point is not so much oriented toward "killing the economy" as it it toward advocating a restructuring of it in a manner that is sustainable and enduring. The economy of consumption and waste is self-defeating and, eventually, suicidal. Surely that is not something for which you would advocate, is it?
*s* is for sarcasm. I agree with you, but unfortunately many believe that consuming and driving the economy is the most important virtue of true american patriots.
Scio me nihil scire
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
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brianlux
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We know that our collective consumption of consumer goods, from the
creation of plastic toys to the fossil fuels that ship them to our
homes, isn’t good for the environment.
Yes, on a consumer level, our ability to control resource consumption
is minimal, but that doesn’t mean there’s no good in a holiday season
where gift exchanges don’t require an Amazon Prime account or transit
via multiple shipping containers. Mindfulness has its own benefits,
especially for affluent consumers, which includes America’s upper-middle
class. The higher-income consumers among us use far more resources than
the less well-off and are responsible for influencing shopping norms at large.
Brian I am also convinced that the prices going up are a way for the companies to gouge and make more money.
Have you seen the cost of concert tickets? I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.
No doubt, but doesn't our unfettered addiction to buying simply feed that monster? As long as people in first world countries continue to over-consume good (which in turn are consuming the planet that sustains us), especially throw-away crap, companies and corporations are going to continue grab all they can. It's sickness on two levels: consumption sickness and greed with no regard for the future sickness. We're the upper end of the food chain and we're self-destructing.
Way to advocate for killing the economy *s*
Perhaps I should say, "thank you", except that I think you are hyperbolizing. The "economy" of the first world as it exists is consuming more resources than the planet each year than it can provide. A quick look here will confirm what I mean by that:
https://www.overshootday.org/ My view point is not so much oriented toward "killing the economy" as it it toward advocating a restructuring of it in a manner that is sustainable and enduring. The economy of consumption and waste is self-defeating and, eventually, suicidal. Surely that is not something for which you would advocate, is it?
*s* is for sarcasm. I agree with you, but unfortunately many believe that consuming and driving the economy is the most important virtue of true american patriots.
Ah! Thanks for verifying that! I'm a little slow on the uptake this morning.
"Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!" -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
My wife's place of employment just changed its policy from OK'ing perennial remote work to requiring three days a week in the office. She immediately started applying to other jobs.
So privileged.
Do they have any protocols in place at work? There have been people going to work the entire pandemic in large manufacturing settings with no transmission (at least none recorded, could be asymptomatic I suppose).
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NPR had the person in charge of the Oakland port. He was begging for ships to come his way as they have room and the manpower to get ships unloaded in a quickness.
Also mentioned was the amount of empty seacan containers, rail carts, whatever you like to call them, are in abundance because ships are not taking them back with them. I find this odd considering here in NY we couldn't "find" any through the distributor. Yes there are people who deal in these seacans. Our company paid a premium for 2 of them. I think we got hosed.
Another reason for the supply chain problems is keeping shelves stocked. Americans are buying more than ever as mentioned earlier in this thread.
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So privileged.
It will be interesting to see a model of all this and how it all went down in a few months when someone figured it out.
Something tells me I need to look for more work, lol.
Having said that, I also think her reason for looking elsewhere sucks.
Must be nice, though....
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A-31. Unemployed persons by industry, class of worker, and sex (bls.gov)
Table 1. Job openings levels and rates by industry and region, seasonally adjusted (bls.gov)
Job Openings and Labor Turnover Summary
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I would've quit (or been fired) because of the cannabis policy a long time ago. (In fact, she could get fired because of me!
I would not, however, quit just because my work wants me to (um) go to work. That's weak sauce!
if I am reading this right the hiring was higher than actual jobs which means there is a heavy turnover rate?
Have you been to the super market lately? Its mostly "personal" shoppers clogging up the aisles looking at their phones for Amazon and other home grocery delivery services. Pain in the ass.
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OK so new jobs are being created and older jobs aren't being fulfilled.
It’s time for Americans to buy less stuff
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
Have you seen the cost of concert tickets? I am not paying them if they stay inflated like this no matter how "starved" I am for new music.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
No doubt, but doesn't our unfettered addiction to buying simply feed that monster? As long as people in first world countries continue to over-consume good (which in turn are consuming the planet that sustains us), especially throw-away crap, companies and corporations are going to continue grab all they can. It's sickness on two levels: consumption sickness and greed with no regard for the future sickness. We're the upper end of the food chain and we're self-destructing.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
The "economy" of the first world as it exists is consuming more resources than the planet each year than it can provide. A quick look here will confirm what I mean by that:
My view point is not so much oriented toward "killing the economy" as it it toward advocating a restructuring of it in a manner that is sustainable and enduring. The economy of consumption and waste is self-defeating and, eventually, suicidal. Surely that is not something for which you would advocate, is it?
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
There are no kings inside the gates of eden
Ah! Thanks for verifying that! I'm a little slow on the uptake this morning.
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
"Hey sucka, there ain't no supply shortage of chains!"
-Eddie Vedder, "Smile"
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Other than food and the necessities what more do most people need...
Also mentioned was the amount of empty seacan containers, rail carts, whatever you like to call them, are in abundance because ships are not taking them back with them. I find this odd considering here in NY we couldn't "find" any through the distributor. Yes there are people who deal in these seacans. Our company paid a premium for 2 of them. I think we got hosed.
Another reason for the supply chain problems is keeping shelves stocked. Americans are buying more than ever as mentioned earlier in this thread.