Sneaking Up at Ohana Encore - Not Cute

HughFreakingDillon · October 2021

Loujoe said:

Once I had to go to the bathroom at a preparty. Just walked in and went. I hear people freaking out about something. Exit the john and see I cut a huge line. Whooooops!

i did that at a Winnipeg Jets playoff block party. I saw the porta potties, guy came out, I went right in. Came out, I had an angry mob of people in a line a mile long. But the start of the line was a good 20 feet away from the john. I had no idea, I was just walking by and thought it was another group of people. Seriously innocent mistake. But holy shit did they give it to me.

dankind · October 2021

Loujoe said:

Once I had to go to the bathroom at a preparty. Just walked in and went. I hear people freaking out about something. Exit the john and see I cut a huge line. Whooooops!

Obliviously walking through crime scenes and film shoots is sort of my M.O., but somehow, obliviously cutting a bathroom line just seems wrong.

Bad @Loujoe

OceansJenny · October 2021

Oh man it’s been awhile since I’ve heard “evenbro”…. Love it

JH6056 · October 2021

Ok storytime overload (all true, but sometimes overload).

given2fly23 · October 2021

Since when does "GA" mean "Go Ahead A-holes"? Basic courtesy and etiquette should still apply. If there's a gap enough that the people behind will not have to move to see or breathe, that's one thing. But to shove in front of me leaving me zero room to move and then get angry at me when you brush up against me cuz you want to dance is total asshole behavior. The EvenBros were out in full during Encore and I probably won't go back to Ohana for PJ because of it. With EV (in 2019 and last Sat) it was the usual Ohana vibe--pretty chill. For all 3 nights of PJ, it was entitled assholes showing up during the band before PJ and muscling their way forward.

Go Beavers · October 2021

superfuzz30 said:

There’s a respect for people who have put the work in that should be there. People who don’t or say “it’s GA soooo” have never lined up at 6am. And that’s cool, not everyone wants to do that, but once you have you have an understanding about the code.

Come up earlier. I was row 2/3 each night and went down about 4pm. You can make friends and take bathroom and drink breaks when needed. It’s not even that long of a wait.

Where the problem happens is shorter people want to leave room between them and the next person when we get to the timeframe when everyone stands up. It’s because they wanna be able to see and use that gap, and I get it, but it also leaves a big person sized gap and the snakes who run up find those.

Agree on the code. Unfortunately the code varies depending on location of the show, whether it’s one band, the band playing, or if it’s a festival. Show up early and claim your spot. This also means no number system or lay down your blanket in line outside the venue at 6:00 am and then return at 11:00 expecting to have that spot. Blankets inside the venue just invite tension. And don’t maintain a big personal space bubble the closer you are to the rail. I’ve seen people have full on conniptions because they get bumped while on the rail.

cp3iverson · October 2021

The rail people at festivals can be kind of annoying if they’re only there for headliners.

At ACL they tended to sit all day and face the audience while other bands played. Backs up against the rail ignoring the artists all day. These weren’t PJ fans. They were there for some younger bands. At the same time it could be a generational thing. ACL is clearly not crafted for people in their 30s-50s these days.

HughFreakingDillon · October 2021

yeah, unfortunately, my "rail" days are long behind me. I don't recall ever getting rail for any show, to be honest. Just didn't want the hassle, no matter the band.

RD81760 · October 2021

This is a band rooted in mosh pits and crowd surfing, yes its annoying but GA is GA

danlee1095 · October 2021

I'm finding this thread to be totally fascinating to read everyone's views and experiences. I guess I've been very lucky to be right up front a few times and each was transformative and memorable in their own way: drank Ed's wine / caught his pick at MSG 2010, high-fived Ed during Jeremy in 2000 and involuntarily slid through a sweaty mess of bodies at Lolla 2007 during a raucous SOLAT, only to "re-surface" like 5 feet from the rail., scary but amazing...also resulted in my profile pic from the PJ20 book.) While those all felt like fandom-defining PJ moments, the one thing I've found about being that close is it just doesn't sound quite as good and becomes more of a visual experience, vs. an aural one. For me the sweet spot is like 20-30 feet in front of the soundboard (if it's in the center) which seemed to be readily available every night at Ohana without pissing anyone off. In fact, that's what I loved most about Ohana: there was little to no pressure to get a pretty great spot and the sound / sight-lines were fantastic from almost everywhere. I hope they play it every year!

Get_Right · October 2021

danlee1095 said:

I'm finding this thread to be totally fascinating to read everyone's views and experiences. I guess I've been very lucky to be right up front a few times and each was transformative and memorable in their own way: drank Ed's wine / caught his pick at MSG 2010, high-fived Ed during Jeremy in 2000 and involuntarily slid through a sweaty mess of bodies at Lolla 2007 during a raucous SOLAT, only to "re-surface" like 5 feet from the rail., scary but amazing...also resulted in my profile pic from the PJ20 book.) While those all felt like fandom-defining PJ moments, the one thing I've found about being that close is it just doesn't sound quite as good and becomes more of a visual experience, vs. an aural one. For me the sweet spot is like 20-30 feet in front of the soundboard (if it's in the center) which seemed to be readily available every night at Ohana without pissing anyone off. In fact, that's what I loved most about Ohana: there was little to no pressure to get a pretty great spot and the sound / sight-lines were fantastic from almost everywhere. I hope they play it every year!

Shush you. Top of the incline in front of or near the soundboard was the spot for Ohana. That is where we were. Easy in easy out and great view over everyone. Oh yeah we also got to say hello to most of the bands on the undercard and Jill Vedder, as the friends and family viewing platform was above the sound board.

mfc2006 · October 2021

Get_Right said:

danlee1095 said:

I'm finding this thread to be totally fascinating to read everyone's views and experiences. I guess I've been very lucky to be right up front a few times and each was transformative and memorable in their own way: drank Ed's wine / caught his pick at MSG 2010, high-fived Ed during Jeremy in 2000 and involuntarily slid through a sweaty mess of bodies at Lolla 2007 during a raucous SOLAT, only to "re-surface" like 5 feet from the rail., scary but amazing...also resulted in my profile pic from the PJ20 book.) While those all felt like fandom-defining PJ moments, the one thing I've found about being that close is it just doesn't sound quite as good and becomes more of a visual experience, vs. an aural one. For me the sweet spot is like 20-30 feet in front of the soundboard (if it's in the center) which seemed to be readily available every night at Ohana without pissing anyone off. In fact, that's what I loved most about Ohana: there was little to no pressure to get a pretty great spot and the sound / sight-lines were fantastic from almost everywhere. I hope they play it every year!

Shush you. Top of the incline in front of or near the soundboard was the spot for Ohana. That is where we were. Easy in easy out and great view over everyone. Oh yeah we also got to say hello to most of the bands on the undercard and Jill Vedder, as the friends and family viewing platform was above the sound board.

That's where we were for most of weekend #1. Perfect sound.

Get_Right · October 2021

mfc2006 said:

Get_Right said:

danlee1095 said:

I'm finding this thread to be totally fascinating to read everyone's views and experiences. I guess I've been very lucky to be right up front a few times and each was transformative and memorable in their own way: drank Ed's wine / caught his pick at MSG 2010, high-fived Ed during Jeremy in 2000 and involuntarily slid through a sweaty mess of bodies at Lolla 2007 during a raucous SOLAT, only to "re-surface" like 5 feet from the rail., scary but amazing...also resulted in my profile pic from the PJ20 book.) While those all felt like fandom-defining PJ moments, the one thing I've found about being that close is it just doesn't sound quite as good and becomes more of a visual experience, vs. an aural one. For me the sweet spot is like 20-30 feet in front of the soundboard (if it's in the center) which seemed to be readily available every night at Ohana without pissing anyone off. In fact, that's what I loved most about Ohana: there was little to no pressure to get a pretty great spot and the sound / sight-lines were fantastic from almost everywhere. I hope they play it every year!

Shush you. Top of the incline in front of or near the soundboard was the spot for Ohana. That is where we were. Easy in easy out and great view over everyone. Oh yeah we also got to say hello to most of the bands on the undercard and Jill Vedder, as the friends and family viewing platform was above the sound board.

That's where we were for most of weekend #1. Perfect sound.

Yep except for Friday when the sound for Ed's band was a bit distorted with Pino dropping bombs. Still loved it.

brewdog123 · October 2021

if you want to see a real battle for front space in a general admission area, go check out a phish show. the rail people there are mentally unbalanced

danlee1095 · October 2021

Get_Right said:

danlee1095 said:

I'm finding this thread to be totally fascinating to read everyone's views and experiences. I guess I've been very lucky to be right up front a few times and each was transformative and memorable in their own way: drank Ed's wine / caught his pick at MSG 2010, high-fived Ed during Jeremy in 2000 and involuntarily slid through a sweaty mess of bodies at Lolla 2007 during a raucous SOLAT, only to "re-surface" like 5 feet from the rail., scary but amazing...also resulted in my profile pic from the PJ20 book.) While those all felt like fandom-defining PJ moments, the one thing I've found about being that close is it just doesn't sound quite as good and becomes more of a visual experience, vs. an aural one. For me the sweet spot is like 20-30 feet in front of the soundboard (if it's in the center) which seemed to be readily available every night at Ohana without pissing anyone off. In fact, that's what I loved most about Ohana: there was little to no pressure to get a pretty great spot and the sound / sight-lines were fantastic from almost everywhere. I hope they play it every year!

Shush you. Top of the incline in front of or near the soundboard was the spot for Ohana. That is where we were. Easy in easy out and great view over everyone. Oh yeah we also got to say hello to most of the bands on the undercard and Jill Vedder, as the friends and family viewing platform was above the sound board.

Ha ha - I take back everything I said!!

brewdog123 · October 2021

brewdog123 said:

if you want to see a real battle for front space in a general admission area, go check out a phish show. the rail people there are mentally unbalanced

to the point, where a more well known rail rider in the scene would tape off a box on the floor for you not to step in, or get ready....
then there is also the "tarping" of areas in the phish scene in general admission festivals/pits. yall aint seen nothing

vedpunk · October 2021

cp3iverson said:

The rail people at festivals can be kind of annoying if they’re only there for headliners.

At ACL they tended to sit all day and face the audience while other bands played. Backs up against the rail ignoring the artists all day. These weren’t PJ fans. They were there for some younger bands. At the same time it could be a generational thing. ACL is clearly not crafted for people in their 30s-50s these days.

Not sure I totally agree on your take on ACL. I mean George Strait and Duran Duran were headliners this year. ha. However, you also had Billie Eilish and Miley Cyrus so this year was a VERY diverse crowd. But, out of all the major festivals ACL definitely skews the oldest crowd because there is always a legacy act.

Get_Right · October 2021

vedpunk said:

cp3iverson said:

The rail people at festivals can be kind of annoying if they’re only there for headliners.

At ACL they tended to sit all day and face the audience while other bands played. Backs up against the rail ignoring the artists all day. These weren’t PJ fans. They were there for some younger bands. At the same time it could be a generational thing. ACL is clearly not crafted for people in their 30s-50s these days.

Not sure I totally agree on your take on ACL. I mean George Strait and Duran Duran were headliners this year. ha. However, you also had Billie Eilish and Miley Cyrus so this year was a VERY diverse crowd. But, out of all the major festivals ACL definitely skews the oldest crowd because there is always a legacy act.

I am over 50 and find ACL to be one of the best run festivals. Although it can be a long walk to the IPA tent when you do not want to drink that fire branded swill.

Given2Fly-Fish · October 2021

We were at Ohana 1 and it was our 3rd time. Definitely seemed a little less "chill" for Pearl Jam Sunday evening. I legit had to pee and went during Crazy Mary (unfortunately for me no long Boom jam...

). Anyway in trying to make it back to my wife some dude stuck his elbow in my ribs and refused to let me pass. I told him my situation and then moved along. It's actually pretty funny looking back as I'm sure after all of these posts no one believed me

. Still a dink move BTW...

Loujoe · October 2021

HughFreakingDillon said:

Loujoe said:

Once I had to go to the bathroom at a preparty. Just walked in and went. I hear people freaking out about something. Exit the john and see I cut a huge line. Whooooops!

i did that at a Winnipeg Jets playoff block party. I saw the porta potties, guy came out, I went right in. Came out, I had an angry mob of people in a line a mile long. But the start of the line was a good 20 feet away from the john. I had no idea, I was just walking by and thought it was another group of people. Seriously innocent mistake. But holy shit did they give it to me.

Lol. I felt like if I could put it back and wait in line I would have done it!

Sorry @dankind . I'm really a good person. My mom told me so.

Sneaking Up at Ohana Encore - Not Cute

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