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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,229
    I'm not sure that I would hang my hat on a study with a pool of 63 participants but that's just me.

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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,086
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Nussenzweig’s group has published data showing people who recover from a SARS-CoV-2 infection continue to develop increasing numbers and types of coronavirus-targeting antibodies for up to 1 year. By contrast, he says, twice-vaccinated people stop seeing increases “in the potency or breadth of the overall memory antibody compartment” a few months after their second dose.

    this is part of what concerns me the most. I was double vaxxed as of early July. so that means I might be back to square one relatively soon. blargh. 
    Yeah  that's what I was thinking, like damn..since I'm vaxxed maybe I can catch the stuff most likely get a mild case and won't have to get a booster every 6 months...
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  • Lerxst1992
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    static111 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    static111 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    static111 said:
    brianlux said:
    joseph33 said:
    Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

    That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?
    I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?
    About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.
    Yeah right... They will become trumpsters because smart people advise them to get vaccinated 
    Smart according to what metrics? Most anti vaxxers were anti vax long before trump.  Many people still don't trust the vaccine and are waiting to see if there are any long term side effects, many also do not trust the pharmaceutical industrial establishment. I don't think either of those things makes anyone less smart than a person that believes every news story that Big Pharma and the pay to play politicians sell them about the vaccine.  Frankly I think there should be more research into how many people in the US have actually had covid and what that means for herd immunity when coupled with the vaccinated population, We might find that there is no reason to be upset with people that have very real concerns about their health and who to trust with it.
    because the science is sound on this: long term side effects to vaccines simply do not exist past the 40 day mark. this is scientific fact. how come all the people "doing their own research" keep failing to grasp this? why do we keep making excuses for these people?

    the vast majority of the politicians, including trump, on that side, that these people listen to, have gotten the vaccine and told them to get it. everyone at fox news has gotten the vaccine. 
    Agreed Hugh when it comes to traditional vaccines, but Mrna vaccines aren't traditional and this is the first time they have been used widely.  It is completely understandable to me why people that take this position do.  I was in the lets see how it goes camp for a while, but after several months of people getting the vaccine that cleared up my concerns...some people may just not feel secure until even more time has passed. But I guess we just crap on them, while Big Pharma continues to clutch rather than share their patents so that the vaccines could be more readily available in poorer parts of the world.  Jonas Salk would roll over in his grave.

    We've had over a billion doses of the mrna vax and my understanding is its as safe as any vax. The problem with covid is its highly infectious. That's why we need tge govt to protect the citizens following science.  Maybe there is a way to test those who have antibodies from the virus itself. Our govt should decide based on science.

    If someone has a bad cancer, and there is an experimental treatment available that shows promise,  how many are turning that down?
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,896
    The  2 people i know  unvaxxed got covid same day. Sunday. One of them is my ex wife mother of my other 3 kids. 


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  • F Me In The Brain
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    Good luck to her, and to the two others

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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,086
    lastexitlondon said:
    The  2 people i know  unvaxxed got covid same day. Sunday. One of them is my ex wife mother of my other 3 kids. 
    Sorry to hear that hopefully they make it through ok
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  • PJPOWER
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    Maybe those afraid of a vaccine should sign up for this study:
    https://dcri.org/activ-6-study/

    ACTIV-6 logoACTIV-6, “The Randomized Trial to Evaluate Efficacy of Repurposed Medications,” is a nationwide double-blind study expected to enroll nearly 15,000 participants from across the United States through its website, https://activ6study.org, and call center, 833-385-1880. The study is now testing these repurposed medications:

    • Ivermectin, used to treat parasitic infections;
    • Fluticasone, an inhaled steroid commonly prescribed for asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease; and
    • Fluvoxamine, a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI), often prescribed for depression.


  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJPOWER said:
    Maybe those afraid of a vaccine should sign up for this study:
    https://dcri.org/activ-6-study/

    ACTIV-6 logoACTIV-6, “The Randomized Trial to Evaluate Efficacy of Repurposed Medications,” is a nationwide double-blind study expected to enroll nearly 15,000 participants from across the United States through its website, https://activ6study.org, and call center, 833-385-1880. The study is now testing these repurposed medications:

    • Ivermectin, used to treat parasitic infections;
    • Fluticasone, an inhaled steroid commonly prescribed for asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease; and
    • Fluvoxamine, a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI), often prescribed for depression.



    The initial fluvoxamine data is actually quite positive (unlike the ivermectin data), and as a bonus it does not appear to be fraudulent.
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  • static111
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    Have we had any unvaccinated respond to this thread yet?
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,086
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    static111 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
    I'm feelin' a bit judgey at this point. Seriously, there is zero reason to not get the shot if you are medically able. and the longer they wait, the longer (and potentially deadly for all of us) this becomes. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Freedumbs have consequences.
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  • hedonist
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    Here come da judge!
  • FiveBelow
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    static111 said:
    Have we had any unvaccinated respond to this thread yet?
    Like most other AMT threads, a sudden influx of posts will signal when they have spoken.
  • JB16057
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    static111 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
    I'm feelin' a bit judgey at this point. Seriously, there is zero reason to not get the shot if you are medically able. and the longer they wait, the longer (and potentially deadly for all of us) this becomes. 
    I don't know if I've seen this discussed here or not but how about the women who have taken the vaccine and now have irregular menstrual cycles?

    Ever since taking the shot in April, my wife has has very irregular menstrual cycles. I didn't put it together until recently I've seen news stories about other people having the same issue. Obviously, this isn't worse than getting COVID and dying but why would this be? I don't think this happens with other MRNA shots but why is this happening with this one and what are the long effects of this? No one knows because THIS vaccine hasn't been around long enough. 

    I'm not saying without a doubt this is the reason why it is happening but it is happening and it isn't just 1 or 2 women. If the shot is causing this, it does concern me what the long term effects are. We aren't planning on having any more children but this does worry me because I have 3 daughters that aren't quite of age to get the vaccine yet. Regardless, I am still leaning towards giving them the vaccine but this is something unknown and it does concern me quite a bit.

    I wouldn't blame others for having this same concern. The female body is nothing short of a miracle and we are injecting something that is changing it.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    690,000 dead and Since Dec. 14, more than 390,664,000 doses of a coronavirus vaccine have been administered in the U.S.

    More than 183,888,000 people have completed vaccination, or about 55.39% of the population. Read more in our vaccination tracker.

    What is the % of fully vaccinated reporting side effects and how long-lasting or permanently damaging are they?

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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    JB16057 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    static111 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
    I'm feelin' a bit judgey at this point. Seriously, there is zero reason to not get the shot if you are medically able. and the longer they wait, the longer (and potentially deadly for all of us) this becomes. 
    I don't know if I've seen this discussed here or not but how about the women who have taken the vaccine and now have irregular menstrual cycles?

    Ever since taking the shot in April, my wife has has very irregular menstrual cycles. I didn't put it together until recently I've seen news stories about other people having the same issue. Obviously, this isn't worse than getting COVID and dying but why would this be? I don't think this happens with other MRNA shots but why is this happening with this one and what are the long effects of this? No one knows because THIS vaccine hasn't been around long enough. 

    I'm not saying without a doubt this is the reason why it is happening but it is happening and it isn't just 1 or 2 women. If the shot is causing this, it does concern me what the long term effects are. We aren't planning on having any more children but this does worry me because I have 3 daughters that aren't quite of age to get the vaccine yet. Regardless, I am still leaning towards giving them the vaccine but this is something unknown and it does concern me quite a bit.

    I wouldn't blame others for having this same concern. The female body is nothing short of a miracle and we are injecting something that is changing it.
    https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/do-covid-vaccines-affect-menstruation/
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,090
    JB16057 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    static111 said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I wouldn't if I were them. 
    Yeah I'm sure no one would like the reception they would have from all of the accepting non judgmental people around these parts. 
    I'm feelin' a bit judgey at this point. Seriously, there is zero reason to not get the shot if you are medically able. and the longer they wait, the longer (and potentially deadly for all of us) this becomes. 
    I don't know if I've seen this discussed here or not but how about the women who have taken the vaccine and now have irregular menstrual cycles?

    Ever since taking the shot in April, my wife has has very irregular menstrual cycles. I didn't put it together until recently I've seen news stories about other people having the same issue. Obviously, this isn't worse than getting COVID and dying but why would this be? I don't think this happens with other MRNA shots but why is this happening with this one and what are the long effects of this? No one knows because THIS vaccine hasn't been around long enough. 

    I'm not saying without a doubt this is the reason why it is happening but it is happening and it isn't just 1 or 2 women. If the shot is causing this, it does concern me what the long term effects are. We aren't planning on having any more children but this does worry me because I have 3 daughters that aren't quite of age to get the vaccine yet. Regardless, I am still leaning towards giving them the vaccine but this is something unknown and it does concern me quite a bit.

    I wouldn't blame others for having this same concern. The female body is nothing short of a miracle and we are injecting something that is changing it.
    How old is your wife? That starts to happen at a certain age anyway - mid to late 40s or so.

  • JB16057
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    What is the % of fully vaccinated reporting side effects and how long-lasting or permanently damaging are they?

    As of right now, no one can answer that question with 100% certainty.

    As for the news story from BU, the study won't be finished until Spring of 2022. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says there is no evidence but can we fully trust them? https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/09/28/cdc-under-attack/

    If Trump can "ruin" the CDC's credibility then they really weren't that credible to begin with, were they? My point being is that politics are involved and it doesn't matter what side you are on, politics and politicians are corrupt. Some are honest and some tell the truth but there are many that do not.

    More than two-thirds of Congress cashed a pharma campaign check in 2020, new STAT analysis shows


    No one can tell me that these members of Congress hold stock in pharma to help the health of the people. They hold stock for the money involved. Money and politicians can make anything corrupt.

    I've given my experience on what is going on with my wife and I have every right to be concerned about the health of my 3 daughters. No one knows the long term effects of this vaccine. I hear that MRNA vaccines are tried and true but why is this vaccine causing this?

    "There is one potential side effect of Covid-19 vaccines that has been reported consistently, and just as consistently ignored: changes to the menstrual cycles."

    I'm only a male so this coming from me doesn't mean as much but a women wrote this story and she feels like this has been reported consistently and ignored consistently.

    As a father of daughters, this does concern me. Why would the CDC ignore this issue that has been consistently reported?

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