Unvaccinated?

brianlux

gimmesometruth27 said:

brianlux said:

I said this in another thread, but we know a woman who is religious and right wing and knowing she was unvaccinated and had tested positive for COVID, rode with her mother in a closed automobile and gave her elderly mother, who is also anti-vax, COVID. 

Yeah, so easy to say, "I'm am for freedom of choice".  But here's the thing:  those two people have been around other people we know (not my wife and I!) and who knows how many of them will get COVID.  Yeah, freedom of choice.  Free to fuck over other people's lives.

Like gimme said, I have lost empathy for these people.  I'm over it with these idiots.

i hope you and your wife are staying safe Brian.

those people are dangerous. those are the ones that believe "god will take care of me". yeah, god will let you die of a preventable virus and then you will be dead. dead and gone. a horribly painful suffocating death. you will be dead, and forgotten by everyone you knew in 40 years because they will be dead too.

i have told people that if they are unvaccinated i do not want to be around them and i do not want to even know them anymore.

Doing well, my friend, thanks!

And thankfully my family member who lives near these other extended family anti-vax members is safe.  I can't stand the thought of her catching this terrible disease- especially from some anti-vax fools.

cblock4life

Wonder how many anti vaccination people are also against abortion. Stop asking why they don’t want the vaccine because here’s the answer, they’re assholes.  I said a month or more ago that I was done with them.   The vaccine is proven safe and saves lives.  The answer is “they’re fucking assholes” and the question would be “who are the unvaccinated” if this was a game show.  

stuckinline

brianlux said:

I said this in another thread, but we know a woman who is religious and right wing and knowing she was unvaccinated and had tested positive for COVID, rode with her mother in a closed automobile and gave her elderly mother, who is also anti-vax, COVID. 

Yeah, so easy to say, "I'm am for freedom of choice".  But here's the thing:  those two people have been around other people we know (not my wife and I!) and who knows how many of them will get COVID.  Yeah, freedom of choice.  Free to fuck over other people's lives.

Like gimme said, I have lost empathy for these people.  I'm over it with these idiots.

Brian, some people are difficult to understand and they don't give a sh*t about their fellow human bings. 

Gern Blansten

static111 said:

brianlux said:

joseph33 said:

Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?

I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?

About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.

Yeah right... They will become trumpsters because smart people advise them to get vaccinated 

hedonist

See, OP? The “discussion” abounds 🤠

gimmesometruth27

hedonist said:

See, OP? The “discussion” abounds 🤠

you told them in the very first reply

mace1229

gimmesometruth27 said:

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

there was a survey that found the most likely demographic (in ontario I think?) to be unvaxxed/anti-vaxx were white liberal women. 

Yea the generalization is harmful and just untrue. Claiming that one side is politicizing the vaccine, then saying you’re not a liberal
if your unvaccinated is hypocritical 

liberal- 

1. 1.

   a supporter of policies that are socially progressive and promote social welfare.
   
   if these friends of yours do not promote the social welfare by getting a vaccine to protect those around them, then they are not a liberal as defined in the dictionary.

I would think you need to look at more than just 1 (newer) issue to make that judgement.

jerparker20

static111 said:

brianlux said:

joseph33 said:

Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?

I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?

About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.

All the anti-vax people I know don’t vote.

Lerxst1992

nicknyr15 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

there was a survey that found the most likely demographic (in ontario I think?) to be unvaxxed/anti-vaxx were white liberal women. 

Yea the generalization is harmful and just untrue. Claiming that one side is politicizing the vaccine, then saying you’re not a liberal
if your unvaccinated is hypocritical 

It’s not a generalization. The solidly Republican states have vaccination rates about 20% lower than the solidly democratic states.

oftenreading

HughFreakingDillon said:

this survey is from 2015: 60 percent of anti vaxxers in the US identify as liberal. 

https://qz.com/355398/the-average-anti-vaxxer-is-probably-not-who-you-think-she-is/

Sure, being anti-vaccination always used to be associated either with being “hippy” or with some fringe religious groups. It never really used to be a conservative thing, until COVID. 

Malroth

Get vaccinated.

static111

SVRDhand13 said:

static111 said:

brianlux said:

joseph33 said:

Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?

I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?

About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.

If just a little shaming pushes anti-vaxxers towards trump... they were headed there eventually anyways.  

If cutting off livlihoods and barring entry to everyday activities is "just a little shaming" I would hate to see where you would draw a line.

static111

Gern Blansten said:

static111 said:

brianlux said:

joseph33 said:

Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?

I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?

About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.

Yeah right... They will become trumpsters because smart people advise them to get vaccinated 

Smart according to what metrics? Most anti vaxxers were anti vax long before trump.  Many people still don't trust the vaccine and are waiting to see if there are any long term side effects, many also do not trust the pharmaceutical industrial establishment. I don't think either of those things makes anyone less smart than a person that believes every news story that Big Pharma and the pay to play politicians sell them about the vaccine.  Frankly I think there should be more research into how many people in the US have actually had covid and what that means for herd immunity when coupled with the vaccinated population, We might find that there is no reason to be upset with people that have very real concerns about their health and who to trust with it.

static111

jerparker20 said:

static111 said:

brianlux said:

joseph33 said:

Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?

I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?

About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.

All the anti-vax people I know don’t vote.

If one party starts pitching that they don't have to worry about losing their jobs and being ostracized due to vaccine status, do you think that may change?

Halifax2TheMax

static111 said:

jerparker20 said:

static111 said:

brianlux said:

joseph33 said:

Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?

I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?

About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.

All the anti-vax people I know don’t vote.

If one party starts pitching that they don't have to worry about losing their jobs and being ostracized due to vaccine status, do you think that may change?

What happened to businesses being able to run their businesses as they see fit? Go work for an anti-vaxxer if you don’t want to be vaccinated and keep your job. Freedumbs aren’t just for the anti gay cake bakers.

static111

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

jerparker20 said:

static111 said:

brianlux said:

joseph33 said:

Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?

I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?

About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.

All the anti-vax people I know don’t vote.

If one party starts pitching that they don't have to worry about losing their jobs and being ostracized due to vaccine status, do you think that may change?

What happened to businesses being able to run their businesses as they see fit? Go work for an anti-vaxxer if you don’t want to be vaccinated and keep your job. Freedumbs aren’t just for the anti gay cake bakers.

Exactly, so why the need for a government mandate if we are concerned with businesses running themselves as they see fit?

static111

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/26/1040780961/new-york-health-care-worker-vaccine-mandate-staffing-shortages-national-guard  Lets see how this plays out.

Lerxst1992

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

jerparker20 said:

static111 said:

brianlux said:

joseph33 said:

Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?

I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?

About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.

All the anti-vax people I know don’t vote.

If one party starts pitching that they don't have to worry about losing their jobs and being ostracized due to vaccine status, do you think that may change?

What happened to businesses being able to run their businesses as they see fit? Go work for an anti-vaxxer if you don’t want to be vaccinated and keep your job. Freedumbs aren’t just for the anti gay cake bakers.

Exactly, so why the need for a government mandate if we are concerned with businesses running themselves as they see fit?

Those that want to sell guns, toxic chemicals or whatever they see fit?

static111

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

static111 said:

jerparker20 said:

static111 said:

brianlux said:

joseph33 said:

Just want to know how many of you there are,and why you choose not to be? It seems that this topic has been politicized,I believe in freedom of choice myself,just curious as to others thoughts.

That sounds like a vaccination-as-politicized-topic statement.  Yes?

I don't think this will gain much traction either way.  I will be surprised if you get many, if any, "Yeah, I'm unvaccinated" responses here. Maybe try the Marjorie Taylor Greene fan club site?

About 50% of the unvaxxed I know are anything but Trumpers or mtg acolytes.   However if the trend of vilifying them as if they are continues I would not be surprised if they go to the only group offering them open arms.  But by all means let’s shame them and find out.

All the anti-vax people I know don’t vote.

If one party starts pitching that they don't have to worry about losing their jobs and being ostracized due to vaccine status, do you think that may change?

What happened to businesses being able to run their businesses as they see fit? Go work for an anti-vaxxer if you don’t want to be vaccinated and keep your job. Freedumbs aren’t just for the anti gay cake bakers.

Exactly, so why the need for a government mandate if we are concerned with businesses running themselves as they see fit?

Those that want to sell guns, toxic chemicals or whatever they see fit?

Not sure what you are saying here as it relates to a discussion about people being unvaxxed?

JeBurkhardt

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

this survey is from 2015: 60 percent of anti vaxxers in the US identify as liberal. 

https://qz.com/355398/the-average-anti-vaxxer-is-probably-not-who-you-think-she-is/

Sure, being anti-vaccination always used to be associated either with being “hippy” or with some fringe religious groups. It never really used to be a conservative thing, until COVID. 

I agree that COVID has caused "selective anti vax" beliefs to sky rocket among conservatives. I live and work around a ton of conservatives. For the most part, they are only anti vax when it comes to the COVID vaccine. The ones that have got FLU shots in the past plan on getting them this year, and are getting their kids the immunizations that are required for school. It is absolutely a political thing for them.