so what is the deal with Josh Klinghoffer?

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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,594
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm all for it if it makes things easier for Ed and helps them tour more than 20 shows a year.     
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  • lowbudgetlush
    lowbudgetlush Posts: 612
    Did josh play on every song? Also does anyone have any good examples of what he added? I know it’s early for that just curious. I don’t know how I feel about this. Ed definitely needs help on the vocals so that is a bonus. Just not entirely sure we needed a 4th guitar. Someone said earlier it was a Melissa Reese in Guns N’ Roses thing. That makes sense. She adds a lot to axls vocal live. Whether by playing a prerecorded part or by singing herself.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    I'm pretty sure josh played ed's guitar part on never destination.  Otherwise you wouldn't really know he was there.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,535
    lowbudgetlush said:
    Did josh play on every song? Also does anyone have any good examples of what he added? I know it’s early for that just curious. I don’t know how I feel about this. Ed definitely needs help on the vocals so that is a bonus. Just not entirely sure we needed a 4th guitar. Someone said earlier it was a Melissa Reese in Guns N’ Roses thing. That makes sense. She adds a lot to axls vocal live. Whether by playing a prerecorded part or by singing herself.

    I saw him in some of the videos playing during Gigaton songs. The songs from that have a lot of layered guitars so it makes sense. He also adds vocals on some of the higher parts, which also makes sense because sometimes Jeff and Matt can be pretty flat. It also looks like Josh has a couple toms in front of him, but I'm not sure when he would've played those.
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,200
    edited September 2021
    mcgruff10 said:
    I'm pretty sure josh played ed's guitar part on never destination.  Otherwise you wouldn't really know he was there.  
    I heard added percussion and backing vocals throughout the set 
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm all for it if it makes things easier for Ed and helps them tour more than 20 shows a year.     
    Yeah I think that’s just the reality of where we are. When they do too many shows he starts cracking or has to cancel like London. And encourages lots of crowd singing. Obviously not his fault so if backing is what he needs let’s do it.
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  • lowbudgetlush
    lowbudgetlush Posts: 612
    nicknyr15 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I'm pretty sure josh played ed's guitar part on never destination.  Otherwise you wouldn't really know he was there.  
    I heard added percussion and backing vocals throughout the set 
    This is great! Make Who You Are a set list staple this tour. With the added percussion it could sound even better.
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,200
    His backing vocals are probably most evident on Take the long way outro last night. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,437
    OceansJenny said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm all for it if it makes things easier for Ed and helps them tour more than 20 shows a year.     
    Yeah I think that’s just the reality of where we are. When they do too many shows he starts cracking or has to cancel like London. And encourages lots of crowd singing. Obviously not his fault so if backing is what he needs let’s do it.
    Pearl Jam has cancelled exactly one (1) show because of Eddies voice, and that was that one time in London. It wasn't because of "too many" shows. 

    I still believe this is a one off thing because Josh will open up for them anyways. People in here talking like it is a permanent change because of Eddies voice -- I see it as much of a permanent change as having that junk-bird for a tour, or that string section in 2009, that lamp Eddie swung on during Porch or doing "an evening with shows" with no opener. They are just changing it up. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Consequence reported Josh is "Pearl Jam's new touring guitarist". 
    Josh confirms. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    I never saw him onstage once. Where was he? I was right of the stage but pretty close where I had a great view…but couldn’t see behind Stone. Is that where he was?
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,437
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I never saw him onstage once. Where was he? I was right of the stage but pretty close where I had a great view…but couldn’t see behind Stone. Is that where he was?
    He was behind Jeff. On Matts right.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I never saw him onstage once. Where was he? I was right of the stage but pretty close where I had a great view…but couldn’t see behind Stone. Is that where he was?
    I can't recall if he was to Matt's right or left, but he was definitely difficult to see. he was kind of behind the scenes in the dark.  
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,437
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Consequence reported Josh is "Pearl Jam's new touring guitarist". 
    Josh confirms. 
    I still think this covers one tour.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    OceansJenny said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    I'm all for it if it makes things easier for Ed and helps them tour more than 20 shows a year.     
    Yeah I think that’s just the reality of where we are. When they do too many shows he starts cracking or has to cancel like London. And encourages lots of crowd singing. Obviously not his fault so if backing is what he needs let’s do it.
    Pearl Jam has cancelled exactly one (1) show because of Eddies voice, and that was that one time in London. It wasn't because of "too many" shows. 

    I still believe this is a one off thing because Josh will open up for them anyways. People in here talking like it is a permanent change because of Eddies voice -- I see it as much of a permanent change as having that junk-bird for a tour, or that string section in 2009, that lamp Eddie swung on during Porch or doing "an evening with shows" with no opener. They are just changing it up. 
    I honestly think a big tour schedule is hard on his voice but we can disagree. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Consequence reported Josh is "Pearl Jam's new touring guitarist". 
    Josh confirms. 
    I still think this covers one tour.
    could be. by "one off" I thought you meant the one show. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I never saw him onstage once. Where was he? I was right of the stage but pretty close where I had a great view…but couldn’t see behind Stone. Is that where he was?
    I can't recall if he was to Matt's right or left, but he was definitely difficult to see. he was kind of behind the scenes in the dark.  
    watching that clip posted on page 1, I saw Mike point to Matt's right when Ed introduced him. So that's probably why you couldn't see him if you were Stone side. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    nicknyr15 said:
    His backing vocals are probably most evident on Take the long way outro last night. 
    That makes sense.  I have no issues with this.  Ed might have a tough time singing/playing on the new stuff.  Who knows.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • stuckinline
    stuckinline Posts: 3,406
    Everyone should be happy that Pearl Jam is playing live shows!
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    stuckinline said:
    Everyone should be happy that Pearl Jam is playing live shows!
    you new around here?  :wink:
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