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I think it's time for insurance companies to be able to deny claims or at the very least start charging non-vaccinated people a surcharge...like they do smokers and like other insurance does (life) based on risk.Halifax2TheMax said:So, anti mask, rail against covid protection policies, catch covid, end up in critical care in the hospital and start a gofundme to pay for your hospital bills? Freedumb. ‘Murica style.
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What a poorly written article.Indifference said:
"At the very least, the results of the study are good news for patients who have already successfully battled COVID but show the challenge of relying exclusively on immunizations to move past the pandemic."
The bad news is the 4M deaths it took to get there I guess. Also no where does it talk about how well the vaccines are for protecting you against the Delta right now vs if you never had covid yet.Post edited by PJNB on0 -
This is still important in relation to who should get shots though right? And if those people don't need shots, they can be distributed to other areas/other people?PJNB said:
What a poorly written article.Indifference said:
"At the very least, the results of the study are good news for patients who have already successfully battled COVID but show the challenge of relying exclusively on immunizations to move past the pandemic."
The bad news is the 4M deaths it took to get there I guess. Also no where does it talk about how well the vaccines are for protecting you against the Delta right now vs if you never had covid yet.hippiemom = goodness0 -
PJNB said:
What a poorly written article.Indifference said:
"At the very least, the results of the study are good news for patients who have already successfully battled COVID but show the challenge of relying exclusively on immunizations to move past the pandemic."
The bad news is the 4M deaths it took to get there I guess. Also no where does it talk about how well the vaccines are for protecting you against the Delta right now vs if you never had covid yet.
well it IS written by the figment of imagination of a fictional character...
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Who needs the shot still and is looking for them? Are we talking outside of North America here? That is a whole other story if that is what you are talking about. Boosters being planned 6-8months past your first shot for the immunocompromised or whoever else wants it in the US tells me that they are more interested in protecting what is theirs vs the rest of the world.cincybearcat said:
This is still important in relation to who should get shots though right? And if those people don't need shots, they can be distributed to other areas/other people?PJNB said:
What a poorly written article.Indifference said:
"At the very least, the results of the study are good news for patients who have already successfully battled COVID but show the challenge of relying exclusively on immunizations to move past the pandemic."
The bad news is the 4M deaths it took to get there I guess. Also no where does it talk about how well the vaccines are for protecting you against the Delta right now vs if you never had covid yet.
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I am all for more information and guidance given to those that had Corona already to be given out. To act like natural herd immunity vs vaccinations is and was the way to go as that article ridiculously tries to push is garbage however.0
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There's nothing that indicates this is peer reviewed or the credentials of the study. You don't make public policy from a random study out of Israel. If this is credible, then cincy is right saying you may slightly adjust vaccination usage based on how long ago someone had covid, but to conclude that herd immunity is now the way to go is pure idiocy and a wilful misreading.0
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Yes I am talking about worldwide. If people really don't need shots, they should be used elsewhere.PJNB said:
Who needs shot still and is looking for them? Are we talking outside of North America here? That is a whole other story if that is what you are talking about. Boosters being planned 6-8months past your first shot for the immunocompromised or whoever else wants it in the US tells me that they are more interested in protecting what is theirs vs the rest of the world.cincybearcat said:
This is still important in relation to who should get shots though right? And if those people don't need shots, they can be distributed to other areas/other people?PJNB said:
What a poorly written article.Indifference said:
"At the very least, the results of the study are good news for patients who have already successfully battled COVID but show the challenge of relying exclusively on immunizations to move past the pandemic."
The bad news is the 4M deaths it took to get there I guess. Also no where does it talk about how well the vaccines are for protecting you against the Delta right now vs if you never had covid yet.
Look, right up until this study I've been nothing but a proponent of everyone getting the shots and the boosters. But if this is true, it might change that rollout a little. Still need vaccines for those who have not had it, cause getting Covid and risking a bad outcome just to get anti-bodies is a pretty dumb choice imo.
And yes I saw Tyler Durden wrote that...so I searched to find it elsewhere.
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I agree with that but that is not the direction the US is taking right now. Countries need the vaccine will not be getting it ahead of the boosters being given out.cincybearcat said:
Yes I am talking about worldwide. If people really don't need shots, they should be used elsewhere.PJNB said:
Who needs shot still and is looking for them? Are we talking outside of North America here? That is a whole other story if that is what you are talking about. Boosters being planned 6-8months past your first shot for the immunocompromised or whoever else wants it in the US tells me that they are more interested in protecting what is theirs vs the rest of the world.cincybearcat said:
This is still important in relation to who should get shots though right? And if those people don't need shots, they can be distributed to other areas/other people?PJNB said:
What a poorly written article.Indifference said:
"At the very least, the results of the study are good news for patients who have already successfully battled COVID but show the challenge of relying exclusively on immunizations to move past the pandemic."
The bad news is the 4M deaths it took to get there I guess. Also no where does it talk about how well the vaccines are for protecting you against the Delta right now vs if you never had covid yet.
Look, right up until this study I've been nothing but a proponent of everyone getting the shots and the boosters. But if this is true, it might change that rollout a little. Still need vaccines for those who have not had it, cause getting Covid and risking a bad outcome just to get anti-bodies is a pretty dumb choice imo.
And yes I saw Tyler Durden wrote that...so I searched to find it elsewhere.
If you caught covid and are either against the vaccine or think that the vaccine will go to someone in a 3rd world country that has no access to it yet then ya maybe pass on it but that is not the way it will work over here.0 -
Seeing who gets to live or die?cincybearcat said:
I think it's time for insurance companies to be able to deny claims or at the very least start charging non-vaccinated people a surcharge...like they do smokers and like other insurance does (life) based on risk.Halifax2TheMax said:So, anti mask, rail against covid protection policies, catch covid, end up in critical care in the hospital and start a gofundme to pay for your hospital bills? Freedumb. ‘Murica style.
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No way. That is crazy talk.0 -
No, just who is paying for it. You against the surcharge as well?tempo_n_groove said:
Seeing who gets to live or die?cincybearcat said:
I think it's time for insurance companies to be able to deny claims or at the very least start charging non-vaccinated people a surcharge...like they do smokers and like other insurance does (life) based on risk.Halifax2TheMax said:So, anti mask, rail against covid protection policies, catch covid, end up in critical care in the hospital and start a gofundme to pay for your hospital bills? Freedumb. ‘Murica style.
https://apple.news/AutSUTMbwTUi1wklbQU4xTQ
No way. That is crazy talk.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Yes. No surcharge. That's crazy. Doing things like that can become elitist real quick.cincybearcat said:
No, just who is paying for it. You against the surcharge as well?tempo_n_groove said:
Seeing who gets to live or die?cincybearcat said:
I think it's time for insurance companies to be able to deny claims or at the very least start charging non-vaccinated people a surcharge...like they do smokers and like other insurance does (life) based on risk.Halifax2TheMax said:So, anti mask, rail against covid protection policies, catch covid, end up in critical care in the hospital and start a gofundme to pay for your hospital bills? Freedumb. ‘Murica style.
https://apple.news/AutSUTMbwTUi1wklbQU4xTQ
No way. That is crazy talk.0 -
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i'd rather get covid on my own than go to that, thank you.nicknyr15 said:Anyone at that Kanye super spreader last night?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Oh yeah I agree with this. Just some new info that might mean you need to shift strategy. And certainly, just allowing people to get it and hoping they don't get really sick or die is certainly not the path to follow.mrussel1 said:There's nothing that indicates this is peer reviewed or the credentials of the study. You don't make public policy from a random study out of Israel. If this is credible, then cincy is right saying you may slightly adjust vaccination usage based on how long ago someone had covid, but to conclude that herd immunity is now the way to go is pure idiocy and a wilful misreading.
But it would also seem that hitting the required % through vaccines and people who have had covid might actually be doable? though I've seen lots of different numbers for that and with the variants I do not know how that works tbhhippiemom = goodness0 -
Not sure I get "elitist". There are certain things that raise the risk. Insurance doesn't like risk. Thus having to disclose if you smoke and pay a premium on your insurance. And thus getting a health exam for life insurance.tempo_n_groove said:
Yes. No surcharge. That's crazy. Doing things like that can become elitist real quick.cincybearcat said:
No, just who is paying for it. You against the surcharge as well?tempo_n_groove said:
Seeing who gets to live or die?cincybearcat said:
I think it's time for insurance companies to be able to deny claims or at the very least start charging non-vaccinated people a surcharge...like they do smokers and like other insurance does (life) based on risk.Halifax2TheMax said:So, anti mask, rail against covid protection policies, catch covid, end up in critical care in the hospital and start a gofundme to pay for your hospital bills? Freedumb. ‘Murica style.
https://apple.news/AutSUTMbwTUi1wklbQU4xTQ
No way. That is crazy talk.
I understand your point of view and why it would be potentially controversial...but they are literally doing nothing and letting others pay for it...seems like just the stuff most of them complain about regarding welfare, etc.hippiemom = goodness0 -
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