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Just say no to the Covid Clot Shots and end this monumental scam
So, at this point, a year and a half in, there are millions dead from CoVID (excess deaths - as in not statistically able to be explained). There are clear indications that getting the vaccine reduces the likelihood of becoming severely ill. In October 2021 if you're still calling CoVID a scam and the vaccine political and/or dangerous, you're just being wilfully ignorant.
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I don’t know where we go from here in NYC. The trash is piling up, fire houses are shutting down, police force is short handed. Why can’t the unvaccinated just be subjected to weekly testing? These are essential services, especially in the city. And we are seeing the consequences. The mayor and governor are not affected by these consequences. Thousands of flights cancelled again this weekend because of “worker shortages”. These are not professions that we can just fill with random vaccinated people. We’re at a stand still here with vaccine progress. I think it’s time to let this go honestly. This year somehow feels worse than last year around me personally. Crazy times.
Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
Why can’t they be subjected to weekly testing ? It’s basically about 25-30% that are holding out. What good is that if more people lose their lives because of slow response times and less cops? Aren’t we trying to save lives? It’s just an endless loop of political nonsense. There are less ambulances out as well because of EMTs that are holding out.
Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
Why can’t they be subjected to weekly testing ? It’s basically about 25-30% that are holding out.
I think that's reasonable. Is the NYC rule already in effect, so that these civil workers have already left the job?
Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
Why can’t they be subjected to weekly testing ? It’s basically about 25-30% that are holding out.
I think that's reasonable. Is the NYC rule already in effect, so that these civil workers have already left the job?
It’s in effect. I’m hoping this is just a temporary gap of waiting for them to get the jab then get back to work. If it stays like this, we’re in trouble here. There’s garbage everywhere and response times are suffering. Apparently 26 firehouses shut down as well around NYC. Again, I hope this is temporary. All i know is none of this is helping change the mind of the unvaccinated. It’s actually doing the opposite.
If we start to lose people being on board with the vaccination then this will all be for nothing. If people don’t get boosters or an annual shot or whatever will be recommended, then what? I’m not here arguing agenda or science. I’m just coming from a real place of seeing what’s going on around me and getting a little concerned.
Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
Why can’t they be subjected to weekly testing ? It’s basically about 25-30% that are holding out.
I think that's reasonable. Is the NYC rule already in effect, so that these civil workers have already left the job?
It’s in effect. I’m hoping this is just a temporary gap of waiting for them to get the jab then get back to work. If it stays like this, we’re in trouble here. There’s garbage everywhere and response times are suffering. Apparently 26 firehouses shut down as well around NYC. Again, I hope this is temporary. All i know is none of this is helping change the mind of the unvaccinated. It’s actually doing the opposite.
The NY Post article reporting 26 firehouses being “out of service” or “shuttered” also included the following:
“Fire Commissioner Daniel A. Nigro said the department “has not closed any firehouses“
“Irresponsible bogus sick leave by some of our members is creating a danger for New Yorkers and their fellow Firefighters,” Nigro said. “They need to return to work or risk the consequences of their actions.”
If we start to lose people being on board with the vaccination then this will all be for nothing. If people don’t get boosters or an annual shot or whatever will be recommended, then what? I’m not here arguing agenda or science. I’m just coming from a real place of seeing what’s going on around me and getting a little concerned.
As the treatments continue to improve, I think vax requirements will become unnecessary. The parallels with the influenza pandemic of 1918 are pretty clear I think.
Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
Why can’t they be subjected to weekly testing ? It’s basically about 25-30% that are holding out. What good is that if more people lose their lives because of slow response times and less cops? Aren’t we trying to save lives? It’s just an endless loop of political nonsense. There are less ambulances out as well because of EMTs that are holding out.
Why can’t it be both? My employer requires fully vaxxed and testing, the number of which is determined by the number of days you’re in the office. Not fully vaxxed? Put on unpaid administrative leave and termination process starts. 99.2% are fully vaxxed. What is so hard about this? The cops can go work in Flo Rida and get a $5K bonus from Deathsantis. Choices, isn’t America great?
Why can’t all the cops, firefighters, flight attendants and pilots just get vaccinated? Would they not be free if they did so? Get vaxxed or get the axe.
Why can’t they be subjected to weekly testing ? It’s basically about 25-30% that are holding out. What good is that if more people lose their lives because of slow response times and less cops? Aren’t we trying to save lives? It’s just an endless loop of political nonsense. There are less ambulances out as well because of EMTs that are holding out.
Why can’t it be both? My employer requires fully vaxxed and testing, the number of which is determined by the number of days you’re in the office. Not fully vaxxed? Put on unpaid administrative leave and termination process starts. 99.2% are fully vaxxed. What is so hard about this? The cops can go work in Flo Rida and get a $5K bonus from Deathsantis. Choices, isn’t America great?
Its an endless loop of selfishness.
Cool story! You don’t like it move to another state! Great solution. While the politicians and unvaccinated have a standoff, tons of people are put in harms way so both sides could prove a point. Not sure what you do for a living but do peoples lives depend on your profession?
If we start to lose people being on board with the vaccination then this will all be for nothing. If people don’t get boosters or an annual shot or whatever will be recommended, then what? I’m not here arguing agenda or science. I’m just coming from a real place of seeing what’s going on around me and getting a little concerned.
As the treatments continue to improve, I think vax requirements will become unnecessary. The parallels with the influenza pandemic of 1918 are pretty clear I think.
I was thinking/hoping the same.
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Just get the vaccine. Not that tough. If they have an actual reason that they cannot then they can deal with whatever special measures/testing needs to be taken
To me the “just get the vaccine” is irrelevant. We’re past that. They’re not getting it. So like I said, where do we go from here? Anyone that has posted, are you experiencing this too in your city? Because here in NYC , it’s very clear that this is becoming a big problem.
To me the “just get the vaccine” is irrelevant. We’re past that. They’re not getting it. So like I said, where do we go from here? Anyone that has posted, are you experiencing this too in your city? Because here in NYC , it’s very clear that this is becoming a big problem.
So they’re not getting it. They suffer the consequences of their decision and society in general does as well due to their selfishness.
Corporations (corporations are people too, my friends), businesses (no cake for you) are allowed to mandate things, as is the government. Sorry you, General you, don’t like those mandates but you have choices. See, isn’t America great?
I was in nyc two weekends ago and traveled from Wall Street to mid town to the Bronx and points in between. Saw cops everywhere, walking beats, manning street closures, sitting in patrol cars, talking to people and oh my god, arresting someone. Saw piles of trash as businesses closed and heard the trash trucks in the night. Next morning piles were gone. Had to show proof of vaccine to enter establishments to eat or drink and a large number of folks were wearing masks. Only real difference was that the subway wasn’t packed but much easier to navigate. Monihayn train station is amazing and the 9/11 memorial area has really grown in nicely. Everywhere was busy. Oh and the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel was jammed creating grid lock on Canal Street snd soho little Italy on Friday night. NYC like I remember it.
And one side is not mandating or advocating vaccines “to prove a point.” Almost 750,000 dead Americans. Guess the antivaxxers have proven their point? There’s gonna be another wave of death coming soon too. How does a cop, firefighter or garbage person on a ventilator or with long covid do their jobs effectively? Number 1 killer of cops is covid. Your body, your choice, live with the consequences of your decision.
These are the folks tasked with public safety and protecting the community. Perhaps we are better off with them out of uniform. Chanting "1776," "F Joe Biden," and "We the people, will not comply" as part, if not the primary reason, for their protest of the mandate.
To me the “just get the vaccine” is irrelevant. We’re past that. They’re not getting it. So like I said, where do we go from here? Anyone that has posted, are you experiencing this too in your city? Because here in NYC , it’s very clear that this is becoming a big problem.
So they’re not getting it. They suffer the consequences of their decision and society in general does as well due to their selfishness.
Corporations (corporations are people too, my friends), businesses (no cake for you) are allowed to mandate things, as is the government. Sorry you, General you, don’t like those mandates but you have choices. See, isn’t America great?
I was in nyc two weekends ago and traveled from Wall Street to mid town to the Bronx and points in between. Saw cops everywhere, walking beats, manning street closures, sitting in patrol cars, talking to people and oh my god, arresting someone. Saw piles of trash as businesses closed and heard the trash trucks in the night. Next morning piles were gone. Had to show proof of vaccine to enter establishments to eat or drink and a large number of folks were wearing masks. Only real difference was that the subway wasn’t packed but much easier to navigate. Monihayn train station is amazing and the 9/11 memorial area has really grown in nicely. Everywhere was busy. Oh and the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel was jammed creating grid lock on Canal Street snd soho little Italy on Friday night. NYC like I remember it.
And one side is not mandating or advocating vaccines “to prove a point.” Almost 750,000 dead Americans. Guess the antivaxxers have proven their point? There’s gonna be another wave of death coming soon too. How does a cop, firefighter or garbage person on a ventilator or with long covid do their jobs effectively? Number 1 killer of cops is covid. Your body, your choice, live with the consequences of your decision.
Take a look now. I’m sure you can find plenty videos or picture of what it looks like now. 2 weekends ago is irrelevant
To me the “just get the vaccine” is irrelevant. We’re past that. They’re not getting it. So like I said, where do we go from here? Anyone that has posted, are you experiencing this too in your city? Because here in NYC , it’s very clear that this is becoming a big problem.
90+% compliance in Boston and Massachusetts.
I understand the immediate public safety concerns in NYC, but the vaccines have been proven to be overwhelmingly safe & effective. Maybe these people shouldn’t be police & firefighters if they’re willing to risk public safety and that of their peers to make a political statement.
To me the “just get the vaccine” is irrelevant. We’re past that. They’re not getting it. So like I said, where do we go from here? Anyone that has posted, are you experiencing this too in your city? Because here in NYC , it’s very clear that this is becoming a big problem.
90+% compliance in Boston and Massachusetts.
I understand the immediate public safety concerns in NYC, but the vaccines have been proven to be overwhelmingly safe & effective. Maybe these people shouldn’t be police & firefighters if they’re willing to risk public safety and that of their peers to make a political statement.
I think there is a large number of people that aren’t just trying to make a “political statement” and that this fact gets overlooked. I know a few nurses and doctors that haven’t got the shots yet because they want to see long term data against a technology that is being put into widespread use for the first time. Granted these professionals are all getting tested, wearing masks etc, but they aren’t doing it to prove a political point.
To me the “just get the vaccine” is irrelevant. We’re past that. They’re not getting it. So like I said, where do we go from here? Anyone that has posted, are you experiencing this too in your city? Because here in NYC , it’s very clear that this is becoming a big problem.
90+% compliance in Boston and Massachusetts.
I understand the immediate public safety concerns in NYC, but the vaccines have been proven to be overwhelmingly safe & effective. Maybe these people shouldn’t be police & firefighters if they’re willing to risk public safety and that of their peers to make a political statement.
I’m not arguing with any of that but what makes you so certain that it’s a political statement? Why can’t it just be their decision? Did you GET vaccinated to make a political statement? “These people” run towards danger to save lives. Would you? Not sure I would honestly. Its just narrow minded to judge them on a personal decision and assume it’s political. But hey, what do I know. I don’t come to conclusions or opinions based on politics.
And let’s not forget it’s not just police and firefighters. I know it’s hip to hate them … it’s pilots, sanitation workers, EMS workers, teachers etc…. Like I said. Where do we go from here ? Let them walk and hopefully fill their positions in time? Hopefully not too many innocent people pay the ultimate price for this standoff.
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i know is none of this is helping change the mind of the unvaccinated. It’s actually doing the opposite.
“Fire Commissioner Daniel A. Nigro said the department “has not closed any firehouses“
“Irresponsible bogus sick leave by some of our members is creating a danger for New Yorkers and their fellow Firefighters,” Nigro said. “They need to return to work or risk the consequences of their actions.”
https://nypost.com/2021/10/30/fdny-firehouses-shuttered-over-vaccine-staffing-shortages/
Its an endless loop of selfishness.
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I was in nyc two weekends ago and traveled from Wall Street to mid town to the Bronx and points in between. Saw cops everywhere, walking beats, manning street closures, sitting in patrol cars, talking to people and oh my god, arresting someone. Saw piles of trash as businesses closed and heard the trash trucks in the night. Next morning piles were gone. Had to show proof of vaccine to enter establishments to eat or drink and a large number of folks were wearing masks. Only real difference was that the subway wasn’t packed but much easier to navigate. Monihayn train station is amazing and the 9/11 memorial area has really grown in nicely. Everywhere was busy. Oh and the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel was jammed creating grid lock on Canal Street snd soho little Italy on Friday night. NYC like I remember it.
And one side is not mandating or advocating vaccines “to prove a point.” Almost 750,000 dead Americans. Guess the antivaxxers have proven their point? There’s gonna be another wave of death coming soon too. How does a cop, firefighter or garbage person on a ventilator or with long covid do their jobs effectively? Number 1 killer of cops is covid. Your body, your choice, live with the consequences of your decision.
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