2022 North American rumour thread take 2
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 Lol, I hadn’t made it that far. Was looking at potential ball games in California assuming the rescheduled shows are in April.tschav said:
 Was about to post the same. Wrigley's potential dates* look like this:johnny__utah said:2022 MLB schedule dropped today. Lots of potential for Wrigley/Fenway/TMobile Park in August.- July 27 - August 4
- August 11 - 18
- August 26 - September 5
 BTW, I could see the Wrigley shows being Aug 27th and 29th to kick off the fall tour1996.....Toronto
 2005.....Hamilton
 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
 2013.....London, Buffalo
 2014.....Detroit
 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
 2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
 2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
 2026.....?????????????????????????????????????????0
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            D-Rod said:
 Lol, I hadn’t made it that far. Was looking at potential ball games in California assuming the rescheduled shows are in April.tschav said:
 Was about to post the same. Wrigley's potential dates* look like this:johnny__utah said:2022 MLB schedule dropped today. Lots of potential for Wrigley/Fenway/TMobile Park in August.- July 27 - August 4
- August 11 - 18
- August 26 - September 5
 BTW, I could see the Wrigley shows being Aug 27th and 29th to kick off the fall tour
 Also factor in a cubs home game early in the week of a Wrigley show. Usually either Tues or Wed (Ed likes to get his cubbie fix; did so in '13, '16, and '18). 1st show would be a Saturday, 2nd Monday.0
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            Heard a rumor they may play the Bottlerock fest 2022. Normally held over Memorial Day weekend.0
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 More California shows... Makes sense.BloodMeridian80 said:Heard a rumor they may play the Bottlerock fest 2022. Normally held over Memorial Day weekend.0
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            So here’s a logical problem for those of us who have been trying to infer the new dates from gaps between other events on the TM site: 
 PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
 EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
 Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230
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            okay, someone smarter than me break all this down to a potential schedule for each of the postponed shows, followed by speculated ballpark shows
 35 years, 35 shows.
 Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!0
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 Simple explanation. They are opening for Celine Dion.RatherStarved said:So here’s a logical problem for those of us who have been trying to infer the new dates from gaps between other events on the TM site: 1996.....Toronto 1996.....Toronto
 2005.....Hamilton
 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
 2013.....London, Buffalo
 2014.....Detroit
 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
 2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
 2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
 2026.....?????????????????????????????????????????0
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 It's all coming back to me now...D-Rod said:
 Simple explanation. They are opening for Celine Dion.RatherStarved said:So here’s a logical problem for those of us who have been trying to infer the new dates from gaps between other events on the TM site: "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory0 "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory0
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 youtube.com/watch?v=fRvOcQ3qxdQdarwinstheory said:
 It's all coming back to me now...D-Rod said:
 Simple explanation. They are opening for Celine Dion.RatherStarved said:So here’s a logical problem for those of us who have been trying to infer the new dates from gaps between other events on the TM site: 
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            To no ones surprise, the Health Check icon popped up on my Quebec City tickets
 I’m expecting this to be the case for all 2022 shows. They will happen with these protocol in place. We must be getting closer to an announcement 
 2010: Cleveland
 2012: Atlanta
 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
 2015: New York City
 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
 2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
 2023: St. Paul II
 2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore0
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 March 10th matinee in Denver confirmed.RatherStarved said:So here’s a logical problem for those of us who have been trying to infer the new dates from gaps between other events on the TM site: ___________________________________________ ___________________________________________
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 I am surprised it says vaccination only.Weston1283 said:To no ones surprise, the Health Check icon popped up on my Quebec City tickets
 I’m expecting this to be the case for all 2022 shows. They will happen with these protocol in place. We must be getting closer to an announcement 0 0
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            I’ll feel better about a spring 2022 tour if the music industry can come up with a consistent model for the fall and winter that allows an artist to do a full tour without cancellations. The fact that PJ hasn’t announced the dates makes me feel like they are taking a wait and see attitude about the spring based on how it goes the next 3 or 4 months.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20
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 Exactly. They will have to decide within that time frame.on2legs said:I’ll feel better about a spring 2022 tour if the music industry can come up with a consistent model for the fall and winter that allows an artist to do a full tour without cancellations. The fact that PJ hasn’t announced the dates makes me feel like they are taking a wait and see attitude about the spring based on how it goes the next 3 or 4 months.To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
 "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
 1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X20
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 I believe that is because of Quebec's vaccine passport program. We have the same thing in BC starting mid-Sept (and in effect until an unknown future date) so it would mean that you'd need to be vaccinated to attend shows in the places with the passport - it doesn't necessarily mean that would be the case with all the shows.PJNB said:
 I am surprised it says vaccination only.Weston1283 said:To no ones surprise, the Health Check icon popped up on my Quebec City tickets
 I’m expecting this to be the case for all 2022 shows. They will happen with these protocol in place. We must be getting closer to an announcement 0 0
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            juliefer said:
 I believe that is because of Quebec's vaccine passport program. We have the same thing in BC starting mid-Sept (and in effect until an unknown future date) so it would mean that you'd need to be vaccinated to attend shows in the places with the passport - it doesn't necessarily mean that would be the case with all the shows.PJNB said:
 I am surprised it says vaccination only.Weston1283 said:To no ones surprise, the Health Check icon popped up on my Quebec City tickets
 I’m expecting this to be the case for all 2022 shows. They will happen with these protocol in place. We must be getting closer to an announcement 
 In NS if the Liberal Party won many days back they were gonna pass a Scotia Pass. That didn't happen but have a feeling things will change and we will have a vaccine passport program coming here.0
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            on2legs said:I’ll feel better about a spring 2022 tour if the music industry can come up with a consistent model for the fall and winter that allows an artist to do a full tour without cancellations. The fact that PJ hasn’t announced the dates makes me feel like they are taking a wait and see attitude about the spring based on how it goes the next 3 or 4 months.
 If we are thinking March as the prospective re-schedules, not sure they can wait 3-4 months. Can't recall less than 3 months notice for a show in the last 10+ years0
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 True enough, but I also can’t recall a tour being postponed for two years due to a global pandemic in the last 10+ years.wbutler29 said:on2legs said:I’ll feel better about a spring 2022 tour if the music industry can come up with a consistent model for the fall and winter that allows an artist to do a full tour without cancellations. The fact that PJ hasn’t announced the dates makes me feel like they are taking a wait and see attitude about the spring based on how it goes the next 3 or 4 months.
 If we are thinking March as the prospective re-schedules, not sure they can wait 3-4 months. Can't recall less than 3 months notice for a show in the last 10+ yearsCamden 2 2006, Newark 2010, Barclays 2 2013, Central Park 2015, MSG 2 2016, Wrigley 1 2016, Rome 2018, Prague 2018, Asbury Park 2021, EV & Earthlings NYC 1 2022, MSG 2022, Louisville 2022, Dublin 2024, MSG 1 2024, MSG 2 20240
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            Doesn’t LiveNation require proof of vaxx for all of their venues starting 10/4?2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x20
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 Yes, I have tickets to a couple of shows in October and have received emails from them letting me know about the changes and offering a window to get refunds if I want them.HailHailVitalogy said:Doesn’t LiveNation require proof of vaxx for all of their venues starting 10/4?0
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