2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • wbutler29 said:
    on2legs said:
    I’ll feel better about a spring 2022 tour if the music industry can come up with a consistent model for the fall and winter that allows an artist to do a full tour without cancellations.  The fact that PJ hasn’t announced the dates makes me feel like they are taking a wait and see attitude about the spring based on how it goes the next 3 or 4 months.  

    If we are thinking March as the prospective re-schedules, not sure they can wait 3-4 months.  Can't recall less than 3 months notice for a show in the last 10+ years
    There was less than 3 months notice for the 2020 NA tour.  It was announced just over 2 months before it was to start.  
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  • wbutler29 said:
    on2legs said:
    I’ll feel better about a spring 2022 tour if the music industry can come up with a consistent model for the fall and winter that allows an artist to do a full tour without cancellations.  The fact that PJ hasn’t announced the dates makes me feel like they are taking a wait and see attitude about the spring based on how it goes the next 3 or 4 months.  

    If we are thinking March as the prospective re-schedules, not sure they can wait 3-4 months.  Can't recall less than 3 months notice for a show in the last 10+ years
    There was less than 3 months notice for the 2020 NA tour.  It was announced just over 2 months before it was to start.  
    True, but I would think they would try to get a little more lead time due to the amount of people who will be looking to either get refunds or put their tickets on the F2F, assuming they even have that going for the rescheduled shows. 
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,093
    wbutler29 said:
    on2legs said:
    I’ll feel better about a spring 2022 tour if the music industry can come up with a consistent model for the fall and winter that allows an artist to do a full tour without cancellations.  The fact that PJ hasn’t announced the dates makes me feel like they are taking a wait and see attitude about the spring based on how it goes the next 3 or 4 months.  

    If we are thinking March as the prospective re-schedules, not sure they can wait 3-4 months.  Can't recall less than 3 months notice for a show in the last 10+ years
    I agree…  it’s going to be tough.  But we’re kind of operating in unusual times so maybe they can scramble and pull it off with 3 months notice.  I’m sure the dates are on hold with venues… just a matter of when they pull the trigger for sure.  🤞🏻
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  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,926
    PJNB said:
    To no ones surprise, the Health Check icon popped up on my Quebec City tickets 

    I’m expecting this to be the case for all 2022 shows.  They will happen with these protocol in place.  We must be getting closer to an announcement 



    I am surprised it says vaccination only. 
    Toronto show will be vaccinated only - negative test won’t suffice.
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  • jefftjefft Posts: 660
    100 Pacer said:
    PJNB said:
    To no ones surprise, the Health Check icon popped up on my Quebec City tickets 

    I’m expecting this to be the case for all 2022 shows.  They will happen with these protocol in place.  We must be getting closer to an announcement 



    I am surprised it says vaccination only. 
    Toronto show will be vaccinated only - negative test won’t suffice.
    All Ontario shows, and quebec shows will need the vaccination passport.
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    jefft said:
    100 Pacer said:
    PJNB said:
    To no ones surprise, the Health Check icon popped up on my Quebec City tickets 

    I’m expecting this to be the case for all 2022 shows.  They will happen with these protocol in place.  We must be getting closer to an announcement 



    I am surprised it says vaccination only. 
    Toronto show will be vaccinated only - negative test won’t suffice.
    All Ontario shows, and quebec shows will need the vaccination passport.
    How does this work for people out of province?
  • jefftjefft Posts: 660
    It's looking like its going to be an app. Based qr code.
  • I wish they would play a 3 night stand at the Gorge.  For all the good reasons why seeing them there would be awesome.  It's also outside.
  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,628
    edited September 2021
    PJNB said:
    jefft said:
    100 Pacer said:
    PJNB said:
    To no ones surprise, the Health Check icon popped up on my Quebec City tickets 

    I’m expecting this to be the case for all 2022 shows.  They will happen with these protocol in place.  We must be getting closer to an announcement 



    I am surprised it says vaccination only. 
    Toronto show will be vaccinated only - negative test won’t suffice.
    All Ontario shows, and quebec shows will need the vaccination passport.
    How does this work for people out of province?
    although this is supposed to end mid-Jan in BC....

    They could pull a DMB and just cancel Canada (Bastard)!
    Post edited by Spunkie on
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Posts: 7,788
    What does that mean?
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • ComeToTX said:
    What does that mean?

    Carter n Stephan won’t b playing this weekend due to covid-19. Dave came out before opening band and announced it.

  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,846
    edited September 2021
    The Killers just canceled their shows in Raleigh and Richmond this month.

    Super bummed, was looking forward to seeing them for the first time.  

    Im blaming this one on poor ticket sales.  There was probably 50% of the venue still for sale on TM.

    Looks like theyre canceling a bunch of shows, just having the venue send out emails.  Seems pretty weak to not even tell the fans yourselves and remain silent.  Maybe I dont need to see the Killers after all...
    Post edited by Weston1283 on
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  • Some optimism: looks like cases, tests, and hospitalizations have plateaued the past 14-17 days in the US. 65% of the population has had at least 1  dose (current full vaxxed is 57%, have to assume the other 8% get their second dose). If we don’t get an announcement of rescheduled shows by December, something else must be going on. I think the boys are gonna get through these 4.5 shows coming up and all talk to each other about how they felt…then it should be game on! 
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  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,168
    edited September 2021
    We also just had 60-100k capacity college football stadiums filled for the first time in 18 months this weekend. 
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  • Some optimism: looks like cases, tests, and hospitalizations have plateaued the past 14-17 days in the US. 65% of the population has had at least 1  dose (current full vaxxed is 57%, have to assume the other 8% get their second dose). If we don’t get an announcement of rescheduled shows by December, something else must be going on. I think the boys are gonna get through these 4.5 shows coming up and all talk to each other about how they felt…then it should be game on! 
    Been following that trend as well. That’s without kids under 12 being eligible too. That’s millions of people that, once eligible, will get vax’d and bump those numbers up. At some point, the virus loses places to go. 
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  • Spring tour confirmed. 
  • D-RodD-Rod Posts: 1,845
    Spring tour confirmed. 
    Any idea when we will have an announcement? 
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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,093
    Spring tour confirmed. 
    Awesome!
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  • D-Rod said:
    Spring tour confirmed. 
    Any idea when we will have an announcement? 
    I asked but haven’t received a response yet. I think at this point we are in a holding pattern due to covid. I believe the announcement is ready but nobody wants to send anything especially if people are going to start booking flights and such. Want to keep people from having money tied up
  • tdawetdawe Posts: 2,091
    D-Rod said:
    Spring tour confirmed. 
    Any idea when we will have an announcement? 
    I asked but haven’t received a response yet. I think at this point we are in a holding pattern due to covid. I believe the announcement is ready but nobody wants to send anything especially if people are going to start booking flights and such. Want to keep people from having money tied up
    I don’t mean to be an asshole, this is an honest question: if this is the case, then what does “confirmed” mean exactly?
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  • tdawe said:
    D-Rod said:
    Spring tour confirmed. 
    Any idea when we will have an announcement? 
    I asked but haven’t received a response yet. I think at this point we are in a holding pattern due to covid. I believe the announcement is ready but nobody wants to send anything especially if people are going to start booking flights and such. Want to keep people from having money tied up
    I don’t mean to be an asshole, this is an honest question: if this is the case, then what does “confirmed” mean exactly?
    Probably booked. But they are leaving room for changes. Easier on their end before officially announcing.
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    tdawe said:
    D-Rod said:
    Spring tour confirmed. 
    Any idea when we will have an announcement? 
    I asked but haven’t received a response yet. I think at this point we are in a holding pattern due to covid. I believe the announcement is ready but nobody wants to send anything especially if people are going to start booking flights and such. Want to keep people from having money tied up
    I don’t mean to be an asshole, this is an honest question: if this is the case, then what does “confirmed” mean exactly?
    Probably booked. But they are leaving room for changes. Easier on their end before officially announcing.
    Jeff already told us they are penciled in. That is pretty much what you are describing. Has something changed and a Sharpie is now being used? 
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,093
    D-Rod said:
    Spring tour confirmed. 
    Any idea when we will have an announcement? 
    I asked but haven’t received a response yet. I think at this point we are in a holding pattern due to covid. I believe the announcement is ready but nobody wants to send anything especially if people are going to start booking flights and such. Want to keep people from having money tied up
    Are there additional dates added or new cities added?
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    on2legs said:
    D-Rod said:
    Spring tour confirmed. 
    Any idea when we will have an announcement? 
    I asked but haven’t received a response yet. I think at this point we are in a holding pattern due to covid. I believe the announcement is ready but nobody wants to send anything especially if people are going to start booking flights and such. Want to keep people from having money tied up
    Are there additional dates added or new cities added?
    Toronto night 2 please!
  • Let’s throw a couple Alberta and BC dates on the schedule too!! 😀
  • tdawetdawe Posts: 2,091
    tdawe said:
    D-Rod said:
    Spring tour confirmed. 
    Any idea when we will have an announcement? 
    I asked but haven’t received a response yet. I think at this point we are in a holding pattern due to covid. I believe the announcement is ready but nobody wants to send anything especially if people are going to start booking flights and such. Want to keep people from having money tied up
    I don’t mean to be an asshole, this is an honest question: if this is the case, then what does “confirmed” mean exactly?
    Probably booked. But they are leaving room for changes. Easier on their end before officially announcing.
    I guess “holding dates on the arenas but not announcing yet because they’re afraid the pandemic might force them to push again” is what I’ve assumed they were doing this whole time. At this point isn’t it the “okay, we’re comfortable enough with the COVID situation to really move forward” confirmation that we’re really all waiting for?
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  • ComeToTXComeToTX Posts: 7,788
    I’ve been wondering if they were trying to change venues to do mainly outdoor shows. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • Guessing we'll hear something around sea.hear.now or Ohana encore, seems like tour stuff comes out while other events going on/ending 
  • tdawe said:
    D-Rod said:
    Spring tour confirmed. 
    Any idea when we will have an announcement? 
    I asked but haven’t received a response yet. I think at this point we are in a holding pattern due to covid. I believe the announcement is ready but nobody wants to send anything especially if people are going to start booking flights and such. Want to keep people from having money tied up
    I don’t mean to be an asshole, this is an honest question: if this is the case, then what does “confirmed” mean exactly?

    I mean, a spring tour was confirmed when they announced the Ohana encore weekend and said the 2020 dates would be rescheduled, right?
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