California governor recall election
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curmudgeoness said:Please share with any Californians you know:The main points they make are spot on!
This is a unique election. Here's how it works:
1.7 million people signed a petition for a recall, out of 39.51 million Californians. That means the recall was triggered by 4% of all Californians.
There will be two questions on your ballot
A YES/NO vote asking if you support the recall
A vote for the candidate you want to replace Newsom (he is not on this ballot)
If over 50% vote to recall Newsom, he's out as governor.
The candidate who gets the most votes will replace him, even if they receive fewer votes than Newsom. The current frontrunner (Larry Elder) is polling at less than 20%, but will replace Newsom if the recall succeeds.
You can choose a candidate regardless of how you vote on Question #1. Based on current polling and the way the election is set up, we are a coin flip's chance away from having a governor who has pledged to end mask mandates and vaccine mandates in California (source).
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California loves getting rid of their elected officials... This is how Arnold got elected.0
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Yeah, I lived there when that happened and voted once for him. It wasn't the same process, though, it was a runoff if I recall on recalled Grey Davis between Arnold and some other dudetempo_n_groove said:California loves getting rid of their elected officials... This is how Arnold got elected.
Wasn't the same ballot and a choose your own adventure process.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
Didn't they oust him over doubling the registration fees for cars? I was in between travel and Cali at that time.F Me In The Brain said:Yeah, I lived there when that happened and voted once for him. It wasn't the same process, though, it was a runoff if I recall on recalled Grey Davis between Arnold and some other dude
Wasn't the same ballot and a choose your own adventure process.0 -
F Me In The Brain said:Yeah, I lived there when that happened and voted once for him. It wasn't the same process, though, it was a runoff if I recall on recalled Grey Davis between Arnold and some other dude
Wasn't the same ballot and a choose your own adventure process."Choose your own adventure"...
You nailed it! This whole process is about as grown up as a kids book. Perfect!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
I don't remember. He was a doofus.tempo_n_groove said:Didn't they oust him over doubling the registration fees for cars? I was in between travel and Cali at that time.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
tempo_n_groove said:Didn't they oust him over doubling the registration fees for cars? I was in between travel and Cali at that time.
That was so long ago, I don't even remember. I lived in CA then, too, and I remember voting against Arnold due to his personal behavior. In retrospect, he seems to have been a decent governor. But I don't remember the random assortment of names, either. This -- it makes me angry just to think about this. It's childish and pointless.
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tempo_n_groove said:Didn't they oust him over doubling the registration fees for cars? I was in between travel and Cali at that time.Davis was tripling the vehicle registration fees, but skyrocketing electrical bills in the early 2000s contributed to the recall effort. I don't agree with recalls in the absence of corruption or serious criminal activity. California needs to change their recall election criteria. Recalls are a waste of taxpayer money and can be easily turned into a perpetual shitshow. Just wait for the next election to vote out someone you do not like.I still have not returned my California recall ballot. There are no viable options to choose on the second question in case Newsom gets recalled, but I do not want to leave it blank. What to do. Elder would be a complete disaster for California. Ug!0
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Asterisk on the Street said:Davis was tripling the vehicle registration fees, but skyrocketing electrical bills in the early 2000s contributed to the recall effort. I don't agree with recalls in the absence of corruption or serious criminal activity. California needs to change their recall election criteria. Recalls are a waste of taxpayer money and can be easily turned into a perpetual shitshow. Just wait for the next election to vote out someone you do not like.I still have not returned my California recall ballot. There are no viable options to choose on the second question in case Newsom gets recalled, but I do not want to leave it blank. What to do. Elder would be a complete disaster for California. Ug!"California needs to change their recall election criteria. Recalls are a waste of taxpayer money..."
This! This recall election is going to cost the state $276 million. Just think of how much control burning to save some of our forests that would buy! Or vaccines or aid to the homeless or animal rescue or any other worthwhile expenditures.As for voting on the second question, yes, that's a tough one. After seeing the debate a week or two ago, I'm fairly certain I'll go with Paffrath. I don't think he's great and some of his ideas are a bit out there, but overall, to me he seems like the best choice and I like his energy and enthusiasm.
I'm not a total Newsom fan by any means, but I'd just as soon see him as anyone else and it's only for another year anyway. They could have save all this money and trouble and just waited another year until the next election. This is just another example of how unhinged the Republican party has become."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
brianlux said:"California needs to change their recall election criteria. Recalls are a waste of taxpayer money..."
This! This recall election is going to cost the state $276 million. Just think of how much control burning to save some of our forests that would buy! Or vaccines or aid to the homeless or animal rescue or any other worthwhile expenditures.As for voting on the second question, yes, that's a tough one. After seeing the debate a week or two ago, I'm fairly certain I'll go with Paffrath. I don't think he's great and some of his ideas are a bit out there, but overall, to me he seems like the best choice and I like his energy and enthusiasm.
I'm not a total Newsom fan by any means, but I'd just as soon see him as anyone else and it's only for another year anyway. They could have save all this money and trouble and just waited another year until the next election. This is just another example of how unhinged the Republican party has become.
Yeah, I probably will, too. I had considered voting for Faulconer, since he comes closest to having enough experience for doing the job, but since I heard that he voted for T***p in the 2020 election and continues to support him, that's disqualifying.
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curmudgeoness said:
Yeah, I probably will, too. I had considered voting for Faulconer, since he comes closest to having enough experience for doing the job, but since I heard that he voted for T***p in the 2020 election and continues to support him, that's disqualifying.
Thank you for the responses, Brian and curmudgeoness. I appreciate it. I have not checked out Paffrath, but I will look into him.
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Asterisk on the Street said:
Thank you for the responses, Brian and curmudgeoness. I appreciate it. I have not checked out Paffrath, but I will look into him.
It's an odd name. Sometimes I forget how to say it so I just say, Packrat.
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Quick reminder about Larry Elder:1) Thinks our last president was sent by God;2) Is a mentor to Stephen Miller, and thinks Miller would make a great president.Ignore the polls; vote!All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0
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Talk about sexist pig:
California gubernatorial recall candidate Larry Elder claimed women 'know less than men' about politics and 'exaggerate the problem of sexism': report
California gubernatorial candidate Larry Elder made numerous derogatory comments about women over his years as a conservative radio host and columnist, according to a CNN KFile report on Thursday.
As recently as January 2017, Elder suggested women who appeared at the Women's March were too unattractive to be sexually assaulted, per the Los Angeles Times. He also insulted those women as " obese ."
"When you look at all these women that have marched — something like 2 million women — Donald Trump has probably gotten more obese woman off the couch and in the streets, working out, than Michelle Obama did in eight years," he said on an episode of his eponymous radio show, according to CNN.
In a 2000 column, Elder mocked women and claimed they "know less than men about political issues, economics, and current events."
In a 1996 ad for his radio show, Elder also said women "exaggerate the problem of sexism." The following year, he wrote in a column that premenstrual syndrome "really stands for Punish My Spouse (or Significant Other)" and promoted a 1950s textbook on "How to be a Good Wife" that directed women to "have dinner ready," "clear away the clutter," "touch up your makeup," and to "never complain."
In his 2002 book, titled "Showdown: Confronting Bias, Lies, and the Special Interests that Divide America," Elder expressed support for employers asking women whether and when they plan to get pregnant, otherwise known as pregnancy discrimination, according to a Media Matters for America report.
Elder's campaign office did not immediately return Insider's request for comment.
A California native, Elder announced his campaign on July 12 for the state's upcoming recall election on September 14. Recent polling shows that he leads a crowded field of Republican candidates aiming to unseat incumbent Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom. Elder's GOP opponents have recently attacked him over his history of disparaging remarks toward women.
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As of yesterday, 538 shows Newsom surviving the recall.
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Asterisk on the Street said:As of yesterday, 538 shows Newsom surviving the recall.I saw that, and I saw that bettors are placing odds of Newsom staying in office at 85%.I also still twitch when I think about 2016 and 2020 polling and how those elections turned out, so I'll exhale when the votes have been counted.All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.0
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curmudgeoness said:I saw that, and I saw that bettors are placing odds of Newsom staying in office at 85%.I also still twitch when I think about 2016 and 2020 polling and how those elections turned out, so I'll exhale when the votes have been counted.Yeah, for sure. The thing is, I KNOW BETTER than to get my hopes up when the polls go the way I hope for, but I can't help seeing them and get my hopes up. I too will breath easier when the votes are in and (hopefully) so is Newsom. Again, not that he's the greatest, but the alternative...?
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What a piece of trash.brianlux said:Talk about sexist pig:
California gubernatorial recall candidate Larry Elder claimed women 'know less than men' about politics and 'exaggerate the problem of sexism': report
California gubernatorial candidate Larry Elder made numerous derogatory comments about women over his years as a conservative radio host and columnist, according to a CNN KFile report on Thursday.
As recently as January 2017, Elder suggested women who appeared at the Women's March were too unattractive to be sexually assaulted, per the Los Angeles Times. He also insulted those women as " obese ."
"When you look at all these women that have marched — something like 2 million women — Donald Trump has probably gotten more obese woman off the couch and in the streets, working out, than Michelle Obama did in eight years," he said on an episode of his eponymous radio show, according to CNN.
In a 2000 column, Elder mocked women and claimed they "know less than men about political issues, economics, and current events."
In a 1996 ad for his radio show, Elder also said women "exaggerate the problem of sexism." The following year, he wrote in a column that premenstrual syndrome "really stands for Punish My Spouse (or Significant Other)" and promoted a 1950s textbook on "How to be a Good Wife" that directed women to "have dinner ready," "clear away the clutter," "touch up your makeup," and to "never complain."
In his 2002 book, titled "Showdown: Confronting Bias, Lies, and the Special Interests that Divide America," Elder expressed support for employers asking women whether and when they plan to get pregnant, otherwise known as pregnancy discrimination, according to a Media Matters for America report.
Elder's campaign office did not immediately return Insider's request for comment.
A California native, Elder announced his campaign on July 12 for the state's upcoming recall election on September 14. Recent polling shows that he leads a crowded field of Republican candidates aiming to unseat incumbent Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom. Elder's GOP opponents have recently attacked him over his history of disparaging remarks toward women.
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