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  • Posts: 14,896
    gvn2fly1421 said:
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    But you as a vaccinated person catch the virus, so doesn't it still mutate?
    Why open that door wider? Whats your point


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  • Posts: 935
    lastexitlondon said:
    The virus spreads much more and faster in unvaccinated.  Facts.  So more  spread. More change  . More  variants. Its simple 
    Is there proof of this?  It seems to have spread pretty quick in DC recently...

    https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/olympics-coronavirus-pandemic-07-20-21/h_81880ac36fd792e0850fac1bda1820cf

    A White House official and a senior Pelosi aide, both fully vaccinated, test positive for Covid-19


    Some context: Six Texas lawmakers have tested positive for Covid-19 since Saturday. The lawmakers are part of the group that left Texas, flying from Austin to Washington, DC, to break the state House's quorum and block Republicans from passing a restrictive new voting law.

    Officials with the group told CNN that all of the lawmakers participating in the quorum break trip are fully vaccinated, including those who have tested positive for Covid-19.

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    mrussel1 said:
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    They consistently go in front of senate and house committees.  Fauci testified just today, along with the head of the CDC and the acting commissioner of the FDA.  Are these the softball questions that they are getting 'daily'?  And yeah, what a great idea, giving a bunch of know-nothings the credibility to ask questions.  Don't worry, Ayn Rand Paul is giving them enough oxygen already.  
    Where can I watch this?  All I see are clips of Fauci on the morning shows or local news?
  • Posts: 14,896
    Of course there  is .  The vaccine makes  the  person  have a much lower viral load as the  antibodies  have a head start on neutralizing  the  virus from the  second you are infected. An unvaccinated person the  load can multiply without any immediate  response.  Do you understand?


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  • Posts: 30,879
    gvn2fly1421 said:
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    Where can I watch this?  All I see are clips of Fauci on the morning shows or local news?
    I don't know.. CSPAN?  
  • Posts: 14,896
    The reason all these people are getting infected 
     The  delta. Which is a mutation which is what happens when a virus has free reign  to run riot. Now if its done in time the vaccines  break the chain sadly us stupid human beings  cant even do that  sensibly.  We had next to no covid then a kent variant swept through before we could  get enough  people educated enough to get a FREE jab.  Then we let planes from india just sail in on the cocky bullheadedness of a clown leader.  Now see how we got here. So the next variant could evade all vaccines  making it all a waste of time. So get vaccinated  world wide. Fast then you can't have another. Then another potential  game over situation. What is so hard to grasp?


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  • Posts: 30,879
    lastexitlondon said:
    The reason all these people are getting infected 
     The  delta. Which is a mutation which is what happens when a virus has free reign  to run riot. Now if its done in time the vaccines  break the chain sadly us stupid human beings  cant even do that  sensibly.  We had next to no covid then a kent variant swept through before we could  get enough  people educated enough to get a FREE jab.  Then we let planes from india just sail in on the cocky bullheadedness of a clown leader.  Now see how we got here. So the next variant could evade all vaccines  making it all a waste of time. So get vaccinated  world wide. Fast then you can't have another. Then another potential  game over situation. What is so hard to grasp?
    Because I read that I might not be able to get pregnant if I get the vax. 
  • Posts: 14,896
    mrussel1 said:
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    Because I read that I might not be able to get pregnant if I get the vax. 
    And you may have  a magnetic arm with 5g. Surly  thats a plus.


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    gvn2fly1421 said:
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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/07/19/did-olympic-athletes-need-to-be-vaccinated-no---and-now-more-are-testing-positive-for-covid-19/?sh=169025d84db7

    BIG NUMBER

    More than 80%. That’s the percentage of Olympic and Paralympic athletes that are estimated to be vaccinated against Covid-19, the IOC projected in June. That number may now be higher, as the IOC told Forbes in an email Monday night it has “received assurances” that at least 85% of delegation members from countries’ National Olympics Committees have been vaccinated. Individual sports teams may also have higher vaccination rates: the Washington Post reported in June 90% of athletes on the U.S. Olympic swim team were vaccinated, for instance, while USA Today reports the U.S. men’s rugby team “collectively agree[d]...that vaccinations were an overall positive.”


    Does 80% count as "mostly"?

    Were 80% of the 67 positive cases vaxxed? Or 80% of all athletes which leaves 20% unvaxxed and therefore considering the number of athletes competing 67 (and sure to be more) positive tests no big surprise.
    That's where you intentionally tried to mislead....wording it that 67 mostly vaccinated athletes tested positive when you have no idea the vaccination status of team Mexico baseball players or a masseur for Russia's rugby team or Ugandan coaches & athletes...etc. etc.

    Factbox: Coronavirus outbreaks at the Tokyo Olympics | Reuters

    But I'd hazard a guess less than 80% are vaccinated, but I won't state it as fact.
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    Poncier said:
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    Were 80% of the 67 positive cases vaxxed? Or 80% of all athletes which leaves 20% unvaxxed and therefore considering the number of athletes competing 67 (and sure to be more) positive tests no big surprise.
    That's where you intentionally tried to mislead....wording it that 67 mostly vaccinated athletes tested positive when you have no idea the vaccination status of team Mexico baseball players or a masseur for Russia's rugby team or Ugandan coaches & athletes...etc. etc.

    Factbox: Coronavirus outbreaks at the Tokyo Olympics | Reuters

    But I'd hazard a guess less than 80% are vaccinated, but I won't state it as fact.
    I feel like you are disparaging most glorious Sputnik vaccine for the people.  
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    Poncier said:
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    Were 80% of the 67 positive cases vaxxed? Or 80% of all athletes which leaves 20% unvaxxed and therefore considering the number of athletes competing 67 (and sure to be more) positive tests no big surprise.
    That's where you intentionally tried to mislead....wording it that 67 mostly vaccinated athletes tested positive when you have no idea the vaccination status of team Mexico baseball players or a masseur for Russia's rugby team or Ugandan coaches & athletes...etc. etc.

    Factbox: Coronavirus outbreaks at the Tokyo Olympics | Reuters

    But I'd hazard a guess less than 80% are vaccinated, but I won't state it as fact.
    Bingo.

    Never mind that the vaccine is 96% effective and doesn't prevent a fully vaccinated person from catching covid. And around and around it goes.
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  • Posts: 14,896
    My cousin had sputnik. He is not magnetic  either 
     What a let down


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  • Posts: 30,879
    lastexitlondon said:
    My cousin had sputnik. He is not magnetic  either 
     What a let down
    Where does he live that he got that vaccine?
  • Posts: 42,191
    gvn2fly1421 said:
    To stay on topic, as I posted the other day, it seems it is becoming more and more likely that we ALL are going to catch the virus regardless of vaccination status.  

    If the above is true, why are the vaccinated so worried about the unvaccinated?
    Because of the potential of the unvaxxed catching covid in large enough numbers, requiring hospitalization and overwhelming the healthcare system. I want a bed for when my gun accidently shoots me, dammit. Fully vaxxed over 50 still have a higher chance of getting sick and requiring hospitalization, particularly with contributing factors like obesity, chronic disease, immune issue, etc. We all know 'Murica is a model of health and fitness.

    And that's a big "if."
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    This is the part I don't get.  The Vaccines (for the most part), at least the mRNA ones prevent getting really sick, or even getting sick.  It's always been up in the air whether or not you transmit the virus with zero symptoms.   IE you get Covid, the vaccine knocks it out, you never get sick so you don't notice.  Still there's a period of time you've got it, and maybe spread it.

    So it would seem there's a possibility that if you randomly testing people who are vaccinated that they're probably going to test positive even though they aren't sick?  Is that a breakthrough case, or is that vaccine's doing what they're supposed to be doing?

    I guess if you're randomly testing, like at the Olympics, this is going to happen a lot?  That would suck to get pulled from your event because of a positive test, even though you aren't sick :(


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    Got my first shot
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mrussel1 said:
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    Where does he live that he got that vaccine?
    Moscow. He had both doses then came home.  He is here for a month then going  back. He teaches english  to rich russian kids


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  • St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,078
    i wrote a song over the weekend called "anthem for the anti vaxxers"

    it is basically a tasty palm muted chug with a baby screaming on top of it.

    not worth recording or sharing. kinda like the anti vax posts.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Posts: 14,896
    Still nobody getting  polio or lockjaw. Thats nice 


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    edited July 2021
    A recent series of tweets from Dr. Robert Malone, the "Inventor of mRNA vaccines and RNA as a drug".  Interesting take.  And best I can tell, he has stated he has been fully vaccinated.

    EDIT TO ADD...  THERE SEEMS TO BE CONFLICTING CLAIMS AS TO IF DR> MALONE IS THE INVENTOR OF mRNA VACCINES OR NOT.  THAT IS WHY IT IS IN QUOTES ABOVE, THAT IS WHAT HE PROCLAIMS ON HIS TWITTER ACCOUNT.
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