Viruses / Vaccines
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Even if B is true, and I’m not sure it is, there’s still a much smaller chance of hospitalization or death if/when you catch it.gvn2fly1421 said:To stick with the thread title 'Viruses / Vaccines", which one of these statements do you view to be true?
A. You will either catch covid OR get vaccinated
B. You will either catch covid OR get vaccinated and catch covid
I tend to think B. is true, especially with more and more data pouring out of other heavily vaccinated countries. So, if B. is true and we will all eventually catch covid, what do we see as the best way forward?
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You might still get it if you are vaccinated but it will be much less severe. Almost all hospitalizations and deaths right now are the unvaccinated. Not getting vaccinated, other than for specific medical reasons, is just putting yourself as a much greater risk of severe symptoms and possibly death. There really isn't a logical reason at this point not to get vaccinated in my opinion.gvn2fly1421 said:To stick with the thread title 'Viruses / Vaccines", which one of these statements do you view to be true?
A. You will either catch covid OR get vaccinated
B. You will either catch covid OR get vaccinated and catch covid
I tend to think B. is true, especially with more and more data pouring out of other heavily vaccinated countries. So, if B. is true and we will all eventually catch covid, what do we see as the best way forward?
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B
and survive and not get long covid.
I will take that
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We have an epidemic of young people unable to work or function due to long covid in this country. Not many virus do that to people
Take it seriously
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gvn2fly1421 said:To stick with the thread title 'Viruses / Vaccines", which one of these statements do you view to be true?
A. You will either catch covid OR get vaccinated
B. You will either catch covid OR get vaccinated and catch covid
I tend to think B. is true, especially with more and more data pouring out of other heavily vaccinated countries. So, if B. is true and we will all eventually catch covid, what do we see as the best way forward?
Discuss...I just don’t get it, the data is available and points in an overwhelming direction towards the truth,….
” Los Angeles County is seeing a surge in new Covid-19 coronavirus cases, topping 1,000 for the fifth straight day Wednesday, and though hospitalizations remain low, each infected patient admitted to a county hospital has not had all their vaccine shots, officials said.“To date, we have not had a patient admitted to a [Department of Health Services] hospital who has been fully vaccinated, with either the J&J, Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. Every single patient that we’ve admitted for Covid is not yet fully vaccinated,” county health services director Dr. Christina Ghaly told the Board of Supervisors on Tuesday.
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99.5% of COVID-19 deaths in the US are now in unvaccinated people, CDC head says
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why is this still even up for debate among 40% of the population who are loyal to a man and not a country? As cases are skyrocketing in 38 states?0 -
Because they are distracted by the people in charge all still talking about other things....how many people get the virus, how many test, what variants there are, % of people with 1 shot, etc...There should be a basic publication, daily, of the death toll in 1 way:(example)USA - New Deaths - 7/15/2021Unvaccinated - 347Vaccinated - 3That is it.The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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I've been thinking a lot about the science and the information (not misinformation) being shared to help people survive. Natural Selection, Charles Darwin, and how the humans being vaxxed going forward have a better chance of survival...that helps the human race. Those viruses are adapting so they can survive and we have to do that also, but even better. Be safe all.
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This is why I don’t even care debating about this too much. 99.5% of deaths are those unvaccinated, Similar with hospitalizations. So only those unvaccinated are at risk. If someone chooses to not be vaccinated, with only few exceptions, that decisions only impacts them.Lerxst1992 said:gvn2fly1421 said:To stick with the thread title 'Viruses / Vaccines", which one of these statements do you view to be true?
A. You will either catch covid OR get vaccinated
B. You will either catch covid OR get vaccinated and catch covid
I tend to think B. is true, especially with more and more data pouring out of other heavily vaccinated countries. So, if B. is true and we will all eventually catch covid, what do we see as the best way forward?
Discuss...I just don’t get it, the data is available and points in an overwhelming direction towards the truth,….
” Los Angeles County is seeing a surge in new Covid-19 coronavirus cases, topping 1,000 for the fifth straight day Wednesday, and though hospitalizations remain low, each infected patient admitted to a county hospital has not had all their vaccine shots, officials said.“To date, we have not had a patient admitted to a [Department of Health Services] hospital who has been fully vaccinated, with either the J&J, Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. Every single patient that we’ve admitted for Covid is not yet fully vaccinated,” county health services director Dr. Christina Ghaly told the Board of Supervisors on Tuesday.
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99.5% of COVID-19 deaths in the US are now in unvaccinated people, CDC head says
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why is this still even up for debate among 40% of the population who are loyal to a man and not a country? As cases are skyrocketing in 38 states?People keep saying the variants are going to change that, but I haven’t seen any evidence of that. I just keep seeing numbers like that 99.5% you posted.0 -
Vaccines aren't the puzzle piece to this solution. How many people in the world saw this pandemic and decided to live a healthier life? We don't hear about that side of the pandemic at all. If you live an unhealthy lifestyle, your odds of getting even more sick go way up. How people stopped smoking due to the dangers presented by COVID? How many obese people saw that this disease really hits the obese people hard and have decided to lose weight? Living a healthier lifestyle would not only help with COVID, but with the healthcare costs in America as a whole.I'm fully vaccinated and have been for some time. I do believe in the vaccine but there's so much more that we should be doing to protect everyone from COVID and everything else that doesn't get discussed. I see the government all day long pressuring everyone to take the vaccine but I don't see the government pressuring obese people to lose weight.0
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I recently worked on a report that contains a lot of this data. I can PM you a link of you like.JB16057 said:Vaccines aren't the puzzle piece to this solution. How many people in the world saw this pandemic and decided to live a healthier life? We don't hear about that side of the pandemic at all. If you live an unhealthy lifestyle, your odds of getting even more sick go way up. How people stopped smoking due to the dangers presented by COVID? How many obese people saw that this disease really hits the obese people hard and have decided to lose weight? Living a healthier lifestyle would not only help with COVID, but with the healthcare costs in America as a whole.I'm fully vaccinated and have been for some time. I do believe in the vaccine but there's so much more that we should be doing to protect everyone from COVID and everything else that doesn't get discussed. I see the government all day long pressuring everyone to take the vaccine but I don't see the government pressuring obese people to lose weight.Let me know.I SAW PEARL JAM0 -
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I recently worked on a report that contains a lot of this data. I can PM you a link of you like.JB16057 said:Vaccines aren't the puzzle piece to this solution. How many people in the world saw this pandemic and decided to live a healthier life? We don't hear about that side of the pandemic at all. If you live an unhealthy lifestyle, your odds of getting even more sick go way up. How people stopped smoking due to the dangers presented by COVID? How many obese people saw that this disease really hits the obese people hard and have decided to lose weight? Living a healthier lifestyle would not only help with COVID, but with the healthcare costs in America as a whole.I'm fully vaccinated and have been for some time. I do believe in the vaccine but there's so much more that we should be doing to protect everyone from COVID and everything else that doesn't get discussed. I see the government all day long pressuring everyone to take the vaccine but I don't see the government pressuring obese people to lose weight.Let me know.
I genuinely would like to see that if you have time.
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Do you remember Michelle Obama being ridiculed for advocating for all of those things you mentioned? Do you remember her leading by example by planting a vegetable garden and speaking to the virtues of more kale in your diet? The ever present bowl of apples in the Oval? How about Bloomberg's soda tax? Remember that? Compared to POOTWH and his fast food celebrations with stacked boxes of crap hamburders? Universal Health Care is also a piece of the puzzle and we once had a POTUS who tried to get it done. I wonder when that cheaper, better version the repubs have had 11 years to introduce will come out?JB16057 said:Vaccines aren't the puzzle piece to this solution. How many people in the world saw this pandemic and decided to live a healthier life? We don't hear about that side of the pandemic at all. If you live an unhealthy lifestyle, your odds of getting even more sick go way up. How people stopped smoking due to the dangers presented by COVID? How many obese people saw that this disease really hits the obese people hard and have decided to lose weight? Living a healthier lifestyle would not only help with COVID, but with the healthcare costs in America as a whole.I'm fully vaccinated and have been for some time. I do believe in the vaccine but there's so much more that we should be doing to protect everyone from COVID and everything else that doesn't get discussed. I see the government all day long pressuring everyone to take the vaccine but I don't see the government pressuring obese people to lose weight.The Health 202: You might have gained the 'covid-15,' but many didn't.
Often dubbed the “Covid-15” or the “2020-20,” pandemic-related weight gain has been a common complaint.
But a database of electronic medical records suggests the pandemic didn’t worsen the nation’s overweight and obesity problem, contrary to public perception.
Americans kept gaining weight last year, but not more than usual.
That’s according to an analysis of more than 19 million patient records stored by Epic Systems, one of the largest medical records companies in the United States. When researchers looked at Americans’ average weight gain in 2020, they found it was consistent with the previous three years.
The trend is this: Adults are gaining, on average, a little less than one pound a year. That held true in 2020, regardless of age or sex. When the pandemic started in March 2020, the patients averaged a little over 191 pounds. By the end of the year, they averaged nearly 192 pounds.
The patient records also showed that 35 percent of people lost weight during the pandemic, only a little less than the 39 percent of people who gained weight.
A handful of widely-cited surveys claimed the opposite — that weight gain did intensify.
In a March 2021 Gallup poll, 36 percent of Americans said their weight “got worse” during the pandemic.
Yet the survey relied on self-reported data, rather than measurements actually taken in a doctor’s office or hospital. And there can be some downsides from relying on how people perceive themselves.
“The actual numbers don’t necessarily jibe with people’s perception of what’s going on,” Epic’s Christopher Alban said. “People’s perceptions can vary.”
Even if it’s true the pandemic didn’t prompt weight gain, that’s hardly the only health indicator.
The unintended consequences of lockdowns — like the possibility that social isolation could lead to increased substance abuse or mental illness — have been hotly debated through the pandemic. It's something President Donald Trump warned even as he prematurely claimed the pandemic was almost over.
“People are dying the other way, too,” Trump argued in spring 2020. “When you look at what’s happened with drugs, it goes up. When you look at suicides, I mean, take a look at what’s going on. People are losing their jobs. We have to bring it back, and that’s what we’re doing.”
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The Health 202: You might have gained the 'covid-15,' but many didn't. - The Washington Post
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Canada currently has 48.45% fully vaccinated, 69.4% with at least one dose. Of entire population. Based on 12+ eligibility, the stats are 55.55% and 79.7% (about a 20% vaccine hesitancy).
United States is 48.4% fully vaccinated and 55.4% with at least one dose of entire population. It has 65% with at least one dose of the 12+ eligibility (about a 35% vaccine hesitancy).
Wasn't the base always around 35%? It is crazy to me how this can be politicized so much. I am proud of Canada for doing as well as we have done with the vaccine and I am proud of those in the US that can see through the bullshit and do whats right. That said I would never have guessed we would be 15% off from each other when close to the final numbers were in. Not a competition just a jarring number to me.0 -
Our new stupid health sec has tested positive after 2 jabs. Utter clown.
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The next month will be critical for the concert industry if this resurgence of virus is not contained!Meltdown99 said:jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Im telling you all this delta will rip through the usa. Big time
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I live in a small village and cases even in vaccinated are very high
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How are you not talking about how amazing it is that the deaths and hospitalizations have barely increased with all of these cases? Why are we always focusing on the negative? I get talking about the negative as that is important but where is the the positive talk as well. Look at your seven day average of daily deaths with 50K cases. There is 40. Now look what it was like when the last time you had 50K cases back in late December. The deaths were 500. That is over 10 times the deaths and hospitalizations are way down too. How is this not what you are talking about?lastexitlondon said:I live in a small village and cases even in vaccinated are very highPost edited by PJNB on0
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