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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 24,653
    Kevin McCarthy, that seditionous sack of garbage:

    Republican Rep. Kevin McCarthy said that he listened to President Joe Biden’s inaugural address about tension and division in the country and that he looked forward to “go forth from here together.”

    McCarthy presented President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris with a photo from the inauguration ceremony.

    “Our task as leaders is to bind this nation’s wounds and dedicate ourselves to the values of all Americans shared together. With modern technology just a few minutes ago, it captured in these pictures, history in the making for all the world to see. This picture should serve as a reminder of that task that we have before us,” he said.

    Some background: Republican representatives said that McCarthy was supportive of their plans to oppose the electoral college count and object to certifying President Biden’s win earlier this month.

    This was a stark contrast from the position of many prominent Republicans — including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney and the former House speaker, Paul Ryan – who publicly and privately raised major concerns about an effort that is doomed to fail but is bound to sow distrust over the sanctity of US elections.

    Yeah some one needs to call him out right to his face! These senators should not get a pass screw that!
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 20,614
    edited January 21
    josevolution said:87
    Kevin McCarthy, that seditionous sack of garbage:

    Republican Rep. Kevin McCarthy said that he listened to President Joe Biden’s inaugural address about tension and division in the country and that he looked forward to “go forth from here together.”

    McCarthy presented President Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris with a photo from the inauguration ceremony.

    “Our task as leaders is to bind this nation’s wounds and dedicate ourselves to the values of all Americans shared together. With modern technology just a few minutes ago, it captured in these pictures, history in the making for all the world to see. This picture should serve as a reminder of that task that we have before us,” he said.

    Some background: Republican representatives said that McCarthy was supportive of their plans to oppose the electoral college count and object to certifying President Biden’s win earlier this month.

    This was a stark contrast from the position of many prominent Republicans — including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney and the former House speaker, Paul Ryan – who publicly and privately raised major concerns about an effort that is doomed to fail but is bound to sow distrust over the sanctity of US elections.

    Yeah some one needs to call him out right to his face! These senators should not get a pass screw that!

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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 20,614
    edited January 25
    Portman just announced he wont seek reelection in ohio. He may just be willing to vote to convict
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,630
    mickeyrat said:
    Portman just announced he wont seek reelection in Ohio. He may just be willing to vote to convict
    Unfortunately, he's stepping aside so a pedophile-enabler can take his place.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 20,614
    Toomey announced same
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 18,596
    mickeyrat said:
    Portman just announced he wont seek reelection in ohio. He may just be willing to vote to convict
    he stated it was because of how polarized the politics are, as if he had nothing to do with any of that.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 20,614
    mickeyrat said:
    Portman just announced he wont seek reelection in ohio. He may just be willing to vote to convict
    he stated it was because of how polarized the politics are, as if he had nothing to do with any of that.

    never did have a spine. so of course, pussy your way out and give it to them...
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 20,614
    sycophants all....

    U.S. Sen. Rob Portman won't run for re-election. Which Republicans might run instead?

    Jessie Balmert
    Cincinnati Enquirer
    Sen Rob Portman says he wont run again Who might replace him

    COLUMBUS – U.S. Sen. Rob Portman announced Monday that he won't run for re-election, leaving a hole on the top of the GOP ticket in Ohio that candidates will rush to fill.

    Republicans have a deep bench in Ohio, controlling 12 of 16 seats in U.S. Congress, nearly all statewide elected offices and both chambers in the Ohio Legislature. That means the GOP will have plenty of takers to replace Ohio's junior senator. 

    Timeline: Rob Portman's career at a glance

    Few have Portman's fundraising prowess, which broke a state record in 2016 when he easily defeated former Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland. But donors will line up to hold onto Ohio's Senate seat as Democrats seek to secure their control over the chamber in 2022. 

    Who are possible contenders? Republicans speculated on which candidates would run for the prominent post. 

    Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Urbana

    Rep Jim Jordan R-Urbana opens a rally for then-President Donald Trump in 2018

    Jordan, a former state lawmaker and a U.S representative since 2007, has developed a national brand as a stalwart supporter of former President Donald Trump.

    Jordan, 56, led the GOP defense of Trump during the House's impeachment of the president following riots at the U.S. Capitol. Trump awarded Jordan the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the country's highest civilian honor. 

    Before that, Jordan was a founding member of the conservative Freedom Caucus and a thorn in then-Speaker John Boehner's side. The West Chester Republican once called Jordan "a legislative terrorist." 

    Jordan is a powerhouse fundraiser with nearly $5.1 million on hand in his congressional campaign fund, according to Federal Election Commission records

    But Jordan could want to stay in the U.S. House of Representatives, where he has built a conservative brand. 

    Jordan also comes with potential baggage. Several former Ohio State University wrestlers alleged Jordan, who was an assistant coach, knew about sexual abuse perpetrated by team doctor Richard Strauss in the 1990s. Jordan has denied having any prior knowledge of the abuse.

    Former treasurer Josh Mandel

    Former Treasurer Josh Mandel could be interested in US Senate again

    Mandel, 43, is no stranger to U.S. Senate politics.

    He ran unsuccessfully against U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown in 2012 and was poised for a bruising rematch in 2018. Instead, he dropped out of the race to focus on his wife's health. They have since divorced.

    Mandel has been relatively quiet since then. He filed paperwork to challenge Democratic Rep. Marcia Fudge but never ran in the 2020 race. The move kept his campaign account active.

    That account now holds about $4.3 million in cash on hand, according to FEC data. 

    During his bid against Brown, Mandel was criticized for using $1.84 million in taxpayer-funded television ads featuring then-Ohio State University head coach Urban Meyer to promote himself rather than savings accounts for those with developmental disabilities.

    Former U.S. Rep. Jim Renacci

    Former US Rep Jim Renacci is mulling his political future  again

    Renacci, 62, has been here once before.

    In 2018, Renacci was poised to run for Ohio governor against then-Attorney General Mike DeWine, Secretary of State Jon Husted and Lt. Gov. Mary Taylor. Instead, he dropped out of that race to challenge Brown – a race he ultimately lost. 

    Now Renacci is mulling a 2022 primary challenge to DeWine's re-election bid. Will he veer off course again?

    Renacci, a former U.S. representative and Wadsworth mayor, owned car dealerships, nursing homes and other businesses throughout his career. That means he can self-fund a campaign, which he did against Brown.

    Renacci ran what many considered to be a weak campaign against Brown in 2018 and lost by 6.8 percentage points. 

    U.S. Rep. Steve Stivers 

    Stivers, 55, is a possible contender in the vein of Portman himself. 

    Stivers, a Columbus Republican and Ohio Army National Guard member, is frequently listed among the nation's most bipartisan members of Congress. He even launched a "civility caucus" with Democratic Rep. Joyce Beatty, of Columbus. 

    Stivers has years of experience in Washington D.C. and $1.25 million in cash on hand, according to FEC data. He previously led the National Republican Congressional Committee.

    Statewide officeholders

    Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose, 41, has considered running for U.S. Senate one day, but will he move up that timetable?

    The Army veteran and former state senator was elected to Ohio Secretary of State in 2018. With redistricting on the horizon, LaRose has plenty on his plate, but higher office has been a goal. 

    "The filing deadline is still a year away and Secretary LaRose’s focus right now is on finding ways to improve upon Ohio’s success so we can continue to thrive as a national model long into the future," spokesman Jon Keeling said. 

    Lt. Gov. Jon Husted, 53, is expected to run as Gov. Mike DeWine's No. 2 in their 2022 re-election bid. But he's interested in topping the ticket one day.

    "For now all I have to say is: Tina and I are grateful for the service and sacrifices Rob and Jane Portman have made for our state and nation," Husted said through a spokeswoman. "I plan to talk with my family, Gov. DeWine and Sen. Portman before discussing the future."

    Attorney General Dave Yost, 64, is taking a look at the race, too.

    Candidates with federal money in the bank already would have an advantage over statewide candidates like LaRose or Husted because that money can't transfer to a U.S. Senate campaign. 

    Author J.D. Vance

    Will author JD Vance consider another political run

    "Hillbilly Elegy" author J.D. Vance, 36, considered a U.S. Senate bid in 2018 but ultimately decided against it. 

    Vance's book, which detailed his childhood in Middletown and his mother's drug addiction, became popular after Trump's victory in 2016. In the years since, the novel has received criticism for being an inaccurate depiction of Appalachian life. Netflix recently released a movie about the novel starring actresses Amy Adams and Glenn Close. 

    In 2020, Vance raised $93 million for his Cincinnati-based venture capital fund, Narya Capital, according to TechCrunch. Vance moved to East Walnut Hills in early 2019.

    Ohio GOP Party leader Jane Timken

    Ohio Republican Party leader Jane Timken has served mostly behind the scenes in state politics

    Timken, 54, has never run for office, but she has plenty of experience in politics. 

    Since Timken unseated then-Gov. John Kasich's hand-picked state GOP party leader in Jan2017, she has gained prominence and respect in Republican circles. She was just re-elected to lead the party unanimously. 

    A well-regarded fundraiser, Timken is married to the former CEO of TimkenSteel.

    But Timken has been a mostly behind-the-scenes player in Ohio politics. Running for U.S. Senate would be a dramatic shift for the Republican leader. 

    Who isn't running? Kasich

    Former Ohio Gov. John Kasich will not run for U.S. Senate, a spokesman confirmed. The three-time presidential candidate turned CNN commentator isn't a popular pick for Republicans in Ohio, especially after speaking at the Democratic National Convention.

    If the heavy-hitters aren't interested in a run, the GOP field could widen dramatically and quickly. 

    Former politicians, business leaders and current officeholders could throw their hats into the ring. Cleveland businessman Mike Gibbons, for example, expressed interest in a bid Monday. Trump won the state by 8 percentage points, making Ohio a desirable state for Republicans to run in. 

    Serious candidates should have time to raise the money needed to be competitive, but Democrats have already set up a fund to defeat Rob Portman in 2022 – or rather, whoever replaces him.

    Reporters Jackie Borchardt and Rick Rouan contributed to this article. 


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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 7,803
    McConnell is relenting on his demands for the Senate so it's in the democrats hands now.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,817
    tbergs said:
    McConnell is relenting on his demands for the Senate so it's in the democrats hands now.
    That's because Sinema and Machin both said they would not vote to eliminate it.  The battle is over.  Honestly though, I don't think Schumer wanted to kill the filibuster anyway.   
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 20,614
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    McConnell is relenting on his demands for the Senate so it's in the democrats hands now.
    That's because Sinema and Machin both said they would not vote to eliminate it.  The battle is over.  Honestly though, I don't think Schumer wanted to kill the filibuster anyway.   

    the threat was a nice cudgel though.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman AsiaPosts: 4,349
    What to do with the ProFa insurrectionist party. 

    Full of frickin loons.


  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,371
    AZ GOP censured Gov Greg Ducey for NOT trying to switch the state electoral votes to trump. 

    The party of law & order, has censured one of their own for NOT trying to rig the election. 

    Good stuff. 

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 20,614
    AZ GOP censured Gov Greg Ducey for NOT trying to switch the state electoral votes to trump. 

    The party of law & order, has censured one of their own for NOT trying to rig the election. 

    Good stuff. 

    its like an extended episode of stranger things
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 724
    AZ GOP censured Gov Greg Ducey for NOT trying to switch the state electoral votes to trump. 

    The party of law & order, has censured one of their own for NOT trying to rig the election. 

    Good stuff. 
    The concerning part is that for the next two years, GOP led State governments especially in States that swung, blue will be doing everything they can to put in place laws and policies to disenfranchise and put up barriers for voters for 2022. They pulled some tricks last year, and were successful to a certain extent. It will be in full force in 2022. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 20,614
    AZ GOP censured Gov Greg Ducey for NOT trying to switch the state electoral votes to trump. 

    The party of law & order, has censured one of their own for NOT trying to rig the election. 

    Good stuff. 
    The concerning part is that for the next two years, GOP led State governments especially in States that swung, blue will be doing everything they can to put in place laws and policies to disenfranchise and put up barriers for voters for 2022. They pulled some tricks last year, and were successful to a certain extent. It will be in full force in 2022. 

    biden intends to introduce voter rights act changes....
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,371
    AZ GOP censured Gov Greg Ducey for NOT trying to switch the state electoral votes to trump. 

    The party of law & order, has censured one of their own for NOT trying to rig the election. 

    Good stuff. 
    The concerning part is that for the next two years, GOP led State governments especially in States that swung, blue will be doing everything they can to put in place laws and policies to disenfranchise and put up barriers for voters for 2022. They pulled some tricks last year, and were successful to a certain extent. It will be in full force in 2022. 
    They're fully committed to destroying our democracy to retain power. 

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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 724
    mickeyrat said:
    That is great news! Fair elections are the corner stone of our democracy. We saw what happened when there is no faith in the election process. Some didn't vote because of years of barriers put in place to suppress their vote has discouraged them about the process. Some were convinced that wide spread cheating was going on, and that the election results were invalid, which led to the Capitol riots. Open, transparent voting is essential to getting some sense of trust again.     
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,817
    AZ GOP censured Gov Greg Ducey for NOT trying to switch the state electoral votes to trump. 

    The party of law & order, has censured one of their own for NOT trying to rig the election. 

    Good stuff. 
    These state parties are going off the deep end.  They are ceding the states for the long term. 
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,371
    mrussel1 said:
    AZ GOP censured Gov Greg Ducey for NOT trying to switch the state electoral votes to trump. 

    The party of law & order, has censured one of their own for NOT trying to rig the election. 

    Good stuff. 
    These state parties are going off the deep end.  They are ceding the states for the long term. 
    That's my hope... I was reading this morning that the GOP had a lot of people leave the party since 1/6, which was nice to see. **

    I'm praying common sense prevails & these lunatics are pushed to the fringe. 

    **I'm not of the mindset that a single party in power is a good thing, I'm not a democrat, I'm independent... with that being said, the direction the state GOPs of OR, TX & AZ are headed is bat shit crazy, and I hope sensible people push back. 

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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 724

    The thing that worries me about this is that there is already so much anger and feeling of being "left behind" by the changes they see happening. The more they are marginalized, the more they are going to turn (even more than do already) to sources that use that sense of alienization to even further their radicalization. I wouldn't advocate compromising what is important to making the nation better for everyone, but there is a big risk in shunning them and letting the chips fall where they may.  
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,371

    The thing that worries me about this is that there is already so much anger and feeling of being "left behind" by the changes they see happening. The more they are marginalized, the more they are going to turn (even more than do already) to sources that use that sense of alienization to even further their radicalization. I wouldn't advocate compromising what is important to making the nation better for everyone, but there is a big risk in shunning them and letting the chips fall where they may.  
    I don't disagree, but the question remains, how do you compromise with people who are literally detached from reality? 

    The problem lies with GOP leadership who continues to perpetrate the sense of victim hood. 

    Yesterday, Matt Gaetz, referred to the constitutional mechanism of impeachment, in this case being used against a president who tried to overturn an election and incited a riot that killed a police officer, as the "zenith of cancel culture".

    I don't see how we move forward with people like this. 

    I'm not advocating for anything at the moment, just throwing my hands up in desperation more than anything else. 

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 20,614

    The thing that worries me about this is that there is already so much anger and feeling of being "left behind" by the changes they see happening. The more they are marginalized, the more they are going to turn (even more than do already) to sources that use that sense of alienization to even further their radicalization. I wouldn't advocate compromising what is important to making the nation better for everyone, but there is a big risk in shunning them and letting the chips fall where they may.  
    I don't disagree, but the question remains, how do you compromise with people who are literally detached from reality? 

    The problem lies with GOP leadership who continues to perpetrate the sense of victim hood. 

    Yesterday, Matt Gaetz, referred to the constitutional mechanism of impeachment, in this case being used against a president who tried to overturn an election and incited a riot that killed a police officer, as the "zenith of cancel culture".

    I don't see how we move forward with people like this. 

    I'm not advocating for anything at the moment, just throwing my hands up in desperation more than anything else. 

    a wall, a hood, 5 rifles.....
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 7,803
    mickeyrat said:

    The thing that worries me about this is that there is already so much anger and feeling of being "left behind" by the changes they see happening. The more they are marginalized, the more they are going to turn (even more than do already) to sources that use that sense of alienization to even further their radicalization. I wouldn't advocate compromising what is important to making the nation better for everyone, but there is a big risk in shunning them and letting the chips fall where they may.  
    I don't disagree, but the question remains, how do you compromise with people who are literally detached from reality? 

    The problem lies with GOP leadership who continues to perpetrate the sense of victim hood. 

    Yesterday, Matt Gaetz, referred to the constitutional mechanism of impeachment, in this case being used against a president who tried to overturn an election and incited a riot that killed a police officer, as the "zenith of cancel culture".

    I don't see how we move forward with people like this. 

    I'm not advocating for anything at the moment, just throwing my hands up in desperation more than anything else. 

    a wall, a hood, 5 rifles.....
    Yeah, someone should remind these idiots what would have happened to them 200 years ago.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 724

    The thing that worries me about this is that there is already so much anger and feeling of being "left behind" by the changes they see happening. The more they are marginalized, the more they are going to turn (even more than do already) to sources that use that sense of alienization to even further their radicalization. I wouldn't advocate compromising what is important to making the nation better for everyone, but there is a big risk in shunning them and letting the chips fall where they may.  
    I don't disagree, but the question remains, how do you compromise with people who are literally detached from reality? 

    The problem lies with GOP leadership who continues to perpetrate the sense of victim hood. 

    Yesterday, Matt Gaetz, referred to the constitutional mechanism of impeachment, in this case being used against a president who tried to overturn an election and incited a riot that killed a police officer, as the "zenith of cancel culture".

    I don't see how we move forward with people like this. 

    I'm not advocating for anything at the moment, just throwing my hands up in desperation more than anything else. 
    You are right, but as unlikely as it sounds, it is going to have to be done internally in the GOP. They are going to have to try to appeal to those who will listen, that "owning the libs" isn't as important as having a country at peace and productive. Many will resist, and the creation of some short lived "Patriot Party" might actually happen. Once a couple of election cycles happen, and the reality of two essentially groups fighting for conservative influence costs them dearly in elections, I think you will see many turn away from the extremists. At least I hope so. The short term will be rough, but hopefully in the long term we can see some progress. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,364

    The thing that worries me about this is that there is already so much anger and feeling of being "left behind" by the changes they see happening. The more they are marginalized, the more they are going to turn (even more than do already) to sources that use that sense of alienization to even further their radicalization. I wouldn't advocate compromising what is important to making the nation better for everyone, but there is a big risk in shunning them and letting the chips fall where they may.  
    I don't disagree, but the question remains, how do you compromise with people who are literally detached from reality? 

    The problem lies with GOP leadership who continues to perpetrate the sense of victim hood. 

    Yesterday, Matt Gaetz, referred to the constitutional mechanism of impeachment, in this case being used against a president who tried to overturn an election and incited a riot that killed a police officer, as the "zenith of cancel culture".

    I don't see how we move forward with people like this. 

    I'm not advocating for anything at the moment, just throwing my hands up in desperation more than anything else. 
    You are right, but as unlikely as it sounds, it is going to have to be done internally in the GOP. They are going to have to try to appeal to those who will listen, that "owning the libs" isn't as important as having a country at peace and productive. Many will resist, and the creation of some short lived "Patriot Party" might actually happen. Once a couple of election cycles happen, and the reality of two essentially groups fighting for conservative influence costs them dearly in elections, I think you will see many turn away from the extremists. At least I hope so. The short term will be rough, but hopefully in the long term we can see some progress. 
    Too far gone.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,371

    The thing that worries me about this is that there is already so much anger and feeling of being "left behind" by the changes they see happening. The more they are marginalized, the more they are going to turn (even more than do already) to sources that use that sense of alienization to even further their radicalization. I wouldn't advocate compromising what is important to making the nation better for everyone, but there is a big risk in shunning them and letting the chips fall where they may.  
    I don't disagree, but the question remains, how do you compromise with people who are literally detached from reality? 

    The problem lies with GOP leadership who continues to perpetrate the sense of victim hood. 

    Yesterday, Matt Gaetz, referred to the constitutional mechanism of impeachment, in this case being used against a president who tried to overturn an election and incited a riot that killed a police officer, as the "zenith of cancel culture".

    I don't see how we move forward with people like this. 

    I'm not advocating for anything at the moment, just throwing my hands up in desperation more than anything else. 
    You are right, but as unlikely as it sounds, it is going to have to be done internally in the GOP. They are going to have to try to appeal to those who will listen, that "owning the libs" isn't as important as having a country at peace and productive. Many will resist, and the creation of some short lived "Patriot Party" might actually happen. Once a couple of election cycles happen, and the reality of two essentially groups fighting for conservative influence costs them dearly in elections, I think you will see many turn away from the extremists. At least I hope so. The short term will be rough, but hopefully in the long term we can see some progress. 
    I'm well aware... there's no path forward for this country if the GOP doesn't come clean about The Big Lie regarding the election. 

    Nothing short of a complete mea culpa including apologies will suffice, and I think I stand a better chance of winning the lottery than we do of seeing this happen. 

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