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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 7,803
    cutz said:
    i honestly don't put any stock in these types of pictures. it could easily just be a "hey Sarah! mind taking a selfie with me?" and she says "sure" not having a clue who it actually is. 

    if it was a pic of them riding in a limo, or having dinner together, that would be something. 
    In a vacuum, I agree... these pictures may / could be nothing, but the Proud Boys connection to trump associates has been established. Do you really think this is just a whole lot of smoke & there’s no fire here? 
    roger stone is no sarah sanders. she's not stupid. my guess is she didn't know who he was at the time. 

    She was the press secretary for an administration that courted and cozied up to these "very fine people" - a job she performed with great skill, passion, and also dishonesty. The plausible deniability angle is valid, but how much benefit of the doubt should be extended, all things considered? 

    I do agree, in and of itself, this picture means nothing. 

    But when this & pictures of proud boys cozying up to the likes of Don Jr, Lindsey Graham & others are considered in the context of who and what this administration was, dismissing it as an innocent faux pas is a hard sell. 
    There was someone that did this to a congresswoman or senator, asked for a selfie then he proceeded to tell her to "Go Fuck Herself".

    I thought that was classy, no matter how much you disagree with them should you do this...
    That was done to that QAnon psycho. Her name needs to quit getting press.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,640
    cutz said:
    i honestly don't put any stock in these types of pictures. it could easily just be a "hey Sarah! mind taking a selfie with me?" and she says "sure" not having a clue who it actually is. 

    if it was a pic of them riding in a limo, or having dinner together, that would be something. 
    In a vacuum, I agree... these pictures may / could be nothing, but the Proud Boys connection to trump associates has been established. Do you really think this is just a whole lot of smoke & there’s no fire here? 
    roger stone is no sarah sanders. she's not stupid. my guess is she didn't know who he was at the time. 

    She was the press secretary for an administration that courted and cozied up to these "very fine people" - a job she performed with great skill, passion, and also dishonesty. The plausible deniability angle is valid, but how much benefit of the doubt should be extended, all things considered? 

    I do agree, in and of itself, this picture means nothing. 

    But when this & pictures of proud boys cozying up to the likes of Don Jr, Lindsey Graham & others are considered in the context of who and what this administration was, dismissing it as an innocent faux pas is a hard sell. 
    So the entire admin is guilty. got it. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,640
    edited February 3
    i guess conservatives are right then, if proud boys taking selfies with trump admin staff means they're all nazis, then michelle obama calling harvery weinstein a great man, not to mention the clintons cozying up to him as well, must mean that democrats ARE in fact baby eating pedophiles in a pizza parlour. 

    how interesting. :how_interesting:
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,371
    edited February 3
    cutz said:
    i honestly don't put any stock in these types of pictures. it could easily just be a "hey Sarah! mind taking a selfie with me?" and she says "sure" not having a clue who it actually is. 

    if it was a pic of them riding in a limo, or having dinner together, that would be something. 
    In a vacuum, I agree... these pictures may / could be nothing, but the Proud Boys connection to trump associates has been established. Do you really think this is just a whole lot of smoke & there’s no fire here? 
    roger stone is no sarah sanders. she's not stupid. my guess is she didn't know who he was at the time. 

    She was the press secretary for an administration that courted and cozied up to these "very fine people" - a job she performed with great skill, passion, and also dishonesty. The plausible deniability angle is valid, but how much benefit of the doubt should be extended, all things considered? 

    I do agree, in and of itself, this picture means nothing. 

    But when this & pictures of proud boys cozying up to the likes of Don Jr, Lindsey Graham & others are considered in the context of who and what this administration was, dismissing it as an innocent faux pas is a hard sell. 
    So the entire admin is guilty. got it. 
    Your suggestion that she wouldn't have taken the picture if she knew who Enrique Torres was doesn't hold much water. 

    If SHB had a problem with white supremacists, she wouldn't have taken on the role of press secretary for this administration. 

    EDIT: 'trump's' administration 
    Post edited by Merkin Baller on

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,817
    i guess conservatives are right then, if proud boys taking selfies with trump admin staff means they're all nazis, then michelle obama calling harvery weinstein a great man, not to mention the clintons cozying up to him as well, must mean that democrats ARE in fact baby eating pedophiles in a pizza parlour. 

    how interesting. :how_interesting:
    Did Michelle take that picture after it was known that he was a rapist?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,364
    Both sides are the same. Got it.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,371
    Both sides are the same. Got it.
    Seriously. 

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,364
    Both sides are the same. Got it.
    Seriously. 
    According to some.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,371
    i guess conservatives are right then, if proud boys taking selfies with trump admin staff means they're all nazis, then michelle obama calling harvery weinstein a great man, not to mention the clintons cozying up to him as well, must mean that democrats ARE in fact baby eating pedophiles in a pizza parlour. 

    how interesting. :how_interesting:
    Had the Clintons or Obamas defended Epstein or Weinstein as 'very fine people' after allegations of their conduct was made known to the public, I might see your point, but to my knowledge they didn't. 

    Also, proud boys are a real thing, pizzagate isn't. 

  • static111static111 Posts: 2,417
    cutz said:
    i honestly don't put any stock in these types of pictures. it could easily just be a "hey Sarah! mind taking a selfie with me?" and she says "sure" not having a clue who it actually is. 

    if it was a pic of them riding in a limo, or having dinner together, that would be something. 
    In a vacuum, I agree... these pictures may / could be nothing, but the Proud Boys connection to trump associates has been established. Do you really think this is just a whole lot of smoke & there’s no fire here? 
    roger stone is no sarah sanders. she's not stupid. my guess is she didn't know who he was at the time. 

    She was the press secretary for an administration that courted and cozied up to these "very fine people" - a job she performed with great skill, passion, and also dishonesty. The plausible deniability angle is valid, but how much benefit of the doubt should be extended, all things considered? 

    I do agree, in and of itself, this picture means nothing. 

    But when this & pictures of proud boys cozying up to the likes of Don Jr, Lindsey Graham & others are considered in the context of who and what this administration was, dismissing it as an innocent faux pas is a hard sell. 
    So the entire admin is guilty. got it. 
    Yes
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,371
    Oh no 



  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,640
    Both sides are the same. Got it.
    Seriously. 
    According to some.
    nope. just keepin' people honest, which can be difficult 'round these parts sometimes. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,640
    mrussel1 said:
    i guess conservatives are right then, if proud boys taking selfies with trump admin staff means they're all nazis, then michelle obama calling harvery weinstein a great man, not to mention the clintons cozying up to him as well, must mean that democrats ARE in fact baby eating pedophiles in a pizza parlour. 

    how interesting. :how_interesting:
    Did Michelle take that picture after it was known that he was a rapist?
    no, that's exactly my point. people are painting everyone on the right, when a picture of them next to some racist sleezebag, as some "evidence" of them being of the same ilk, it's nonsense. because that proud boy leader wasn't exactly a well known face until the last 6 months or so. that picture was most likely taken well before that. 

    had she taken that picture with him recently, then I would agree with the assessment 100%. 

    and for the record, I think she's a disgusting pig of a human. but the picture alone doesn't prove she's a white supremacist. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,817
    mrussel1 said:
    i guess conservatives are right then, if proud boys taking selfies with trump admin staff means they're all nazis, then michelle obama calling harvery weinstein a great man, not to mention the clintons cozying up to him as well, must mean that democrats ARE in fact baby eating pedophiles in a pizza parlour. 

    how interesting. :how_interesting:
    Did Michelle take that picture after it was known that he was a rapist?
    no, that's exactly my point. people are painting everyone on the right, when a picture of them next to some racist sleezebag, as some "evidence" of them being of the same ilk, it's nonsense. because that proud boy leader wasn't exactly a well known face until the last 6 months or so. that picture was most likely taken well before that. 

    had she taken that picture with him recently, then I would agree with the assessment 100%. 

    and for the record, I think she's a disgusting pig of a human. but the picture alone doesn't prove she's a white supremacist. 
    Yes, her shame that can’t be washed is working for the Trump admin, at the very top of the tower of lies.  It’s not the picture that damns her, it’s everything else.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,364
    mrussel1 said:
    i guess conservatives are right then, if proud boys taking selfies with trump admin staff means they're all nazis, then michelle obama calling harvery weinstein a great man, not to mention the clintons cozying up to him as well, must mean that democrats ARE in fact baby eating pedophiles in a pizza parlour. 

    how interesting. :how_interesting:
    Did Michelle take that picture after it was known that he was a rapist?
    no, that's exactly my point. people are painting everyone on the right, when a picture of them next to some racist sleezebag, as some "evidence" of them being of the same ilk, it's nonsense. because that proud boy leader wasn't exactly a well known face until the last 6 months or so. that picture was most likely taken well before that. 

    had she taken that picture with him recently, then I would agree with the assessment 100%. 

    and for the record, I think she's a disgusting pig of a human. but the picture alone doesn't prove she's a white supremacist. 
    Whole lot of speculatin’ for keeping ‘em honest.  
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,817
    Crazy day

    1. MTG apologizes to her caucus
    2. House votes 145-61 to keep Cheney in leadership

    Both of these developments surprise me. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,817
    Oh and it was a secret vote.  Clever by Mccarthy.  I guarantee the results would be opposite in a public vote. They should mage the senate impeachment vote secret. 
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 7,803
    mrussel1 said:
    Oh and it was a secret vote.  Clever by Mccarthy.  I guarantee the results would be opposite in a public vote. They should mage the senate impeachment vote secret. 
    Good point. Too bad integrity doesn't exist with these spineless losers.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,371
    This is the GOP in 2021.

    A party of lies & conspiracy & sedition. 


  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 20,614
     11:16 a.m.
    McConnell congratulates Rep. Cheney, has nothing to say about Rep. Greene
    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) offered hearty congratulations Thursday to Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) for retaining her leadership positions but was mum on another matter decided by House Republicans: that no action would be taken against Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.).
    Both matters were discussed during a lengthy closed-door meeting Wednesday.
    Asked Thursday what his reaction was to what transpired, McConnell said: “I congratulate Liz Cheney on a landslide victory. It must be very satisfying to her, and it was a great win.”
    Asked about Republicans letting Greene keep her committee assignments, McConnell declined to answer.
    During the meeting, House Republicans voted 145 to 61 to reject a call for Cheney’s resignation from the No. 3 leadership post — a move demanded by Trump loyalists upset by her vote to impeach the former president.
    While Republicans decided not to discipline Greene, the full House is expected to vote Thursday on a Democratic-led measure to remove her from her committee assignments in response to repeated extremist rhetoric.
    By John Wagner and Mike

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 8,615
    Here is the gop platform

    Fear
    Hate
    Ignorance 
    Jealousy 
    Lies
    Do and say nothing about racist xenophobes

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 20,614
     https://news.yahoo.com/embarrassing-marjorie-taylor-greene-tests-130433733.html

    SUMMERVILLE, Ga. — Billy Martin does not care much for politicians. But the retired teacher and coach liked what he heard from Marjorie Taylor Greene, who prom...

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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,371
    The party of personal responsibility



  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,371

    Nice look, GOP. 



  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,817
    Anyone know if she still had the "Trump won" mask on when talking about her trip down the rabbit hole?
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 7,803
    mrussel1 said:
    Anyone know if she still had the "Trump won" mask on when talking about her trip down the rabbit hole?
    No, a much classier free speech one instead. Fucking liar. What a joke. Someone told her to recant even though her beliefs haven't changed. Another closet Nazi fuck.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,371
    tbergs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Anyone know if she still had the "Trump won" mask on when talking about her trip down the rabbit hole?
    No, a much classier free speech one instead. Fucking liar. What a joke. Someone told her to recant even though her beliefs haven't changed. Another closet Nazi fuck.
    Yup

    I hesitate to throw around the term Nazi, but she would have fit right in w/ the 3rd Reich, as would many in the current GOP. 

  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,817
    tbergs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Anyone know if she still had the "Trump won" mask on when talking about her trip down the rabbit hole?
    No, a much classier free speech one instead. Fucking liar. What a joke. Someone told her to recant even though her beliefs haven't changed. Another closet Nazi fuck.
    Free speech, what a bunch of crap.  Last I check she isn't in jail for her lies.  Free speech doesn't mean free from consequences.  From what I can tell, she will be removed with a majority.  If her speech was intended to win over some D's so she doesn't lose, that facemask is counter productive for sure.  From what I read every D plus 10 to 15 R will vote to remove her.  
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 11,549
    mrussel1 said:
    tbergs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Anyone know if she still had the "Trump won" mask on when talking about her trip down the rabbit hole?
    No, a much classier free speech one instead. Fucking liar. What a joke. Someone told her to recant even though her beliefs haven't changed. Another closet Nazi fuck.
    Free speech, what a bunch of crap.  Last I check she isn't in jail for her lies.  Free speech doesn't mean free from consequences.  From what I can tell, she will be removed with a majority.  If her speech was intended to win over some D's so she doesn't lose, that facemask is counter productive for sure.  From what I read every D plus 10 to 15 R will vote to remove her.  
    I hope so...she needs to go away
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 18,596
    wisconsin republicans repealed dem governor mask mandate.

    wisconsin republicans are the ed gein of republicans.
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