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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,607
    OnWis97 said:
    Rand Paul must be in deep, right?  He just seems so invested in "moving on." Trump has something on him and/or he helped plan January 6.
    POOTWH has something on all of them. ALL OF THEM. Randy Paul, Matt Getts Off, Rube, Moscow Mitchy Baby, Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy, Tom I'm A Warrior Hear Me Roar Cotton, McCarthy, Wrestler Molester, ALL OF THEM. And to think Strom Thurmond kept a love child with his black housekeeper secret for decades. Anyone think these guys are squeaky clean and righteous, full of family values?
    It's cute that you made names for them just like Trump did towards his opposition.
    They’re not worthy of being called anything but what I’ve determined to be suitable names. Guess it only bothers you when a lib does it, eh? It’s only been four or so years, longer if you include Turd Blossom, Shrub, Darth Cheney, etc.
    No I thought he was childish too.  

    It is comical on how much you bashed him and yet use and continue to do so, a move from his playbook.

    I do miss the P-tape reference though.
    Is POOTWH not worthy of being bashed? Out of office, out of mind? These fucks are why we’re at where we are. You’re entitled to your opinion but you shouldn’t be trying to cancel me. Speaking of me, I’ll do me and you do you, okay?

    As for the PTape, more likely or less likely it exists? 
    i'll just say this, and take it or leave it as you wish: I respect your opinion, as you have many times the US political knowledge that I do, however, your message often gets lost in the all the nicknames. I just can't be bothered to read posts that contain all that. 

    now, if that doesn't matter to you, carry on. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 20,788
    What is POOTWH?
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,627
    OnWis97 said:
    Rand Paul must be in deep, right?  He just seems so invested in "moving on." Trump has something on him and/or he helped plan January 6.
    POOTWH has something on all of them. ALL OF THEM. Randy Paul, Matt Getts Off, Rube, Moscow Mitchy Baby, Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy, Tom I'm A Warrior Hear Me Roar Cotton, McCarthy, Wrestler Molester, ALL OF THEM. And to think Strom Thurmond kept a love child with his black housekeeper secret for decades. Anyone think these guys are squeaky clean and righteous, full of family values?
    It's cute that you made names for them just like Trump did towards his opposition.
    They’re not worthy of being called anything but what I’ve determined to be suitable names. Guess it only bothers you when a lib does it, eh? It’s only been four or so years, longer if you include Turd Blossom, Shrub, Darth Cheney, etc.
    No I thought he was childish too.  

    It is comical on how much you bashed him and yet use and continue to do so, a move from his playbook.

    I do miss the P-tape reference though.
    Is POOTWH not worthy of being bashed? Out of office, out of mind? These fucks are why we’re at where we are. You’re entitled to your opinion but you shouldn’t be trying to cancel me. Speaking of me, I’ll do me and you do you, okay?

    As for the PTape, more likely or less likely it exists? 
    I don't even know what this means.

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 26,278
    mrussel1 said:
    What is POOTWH?
    Same a #Kovfefe?!?
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 723
    mrussel1 said:
    What is POOTWH?
    I figured it was Prior Occupant of the White House.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 26,278
    OnWis97 said:
    Rand Paul must be in deep, right?  He just seems so invested in "moving on." Trump has something on him and/or he helped plan January 6.
    POOTWH has something on all of them. ALL OF THEM. Randy Paul, Matt Getts Off, Rube, Moscow Mitchy Baby, Lindsey Flimsy Flip Flop Faloozy, Tom I'm A Warrior Hear Me Roar Cotton, McCarthy, Wrestler Molester, ALL OF THEM. And to think Strom Thurmond kept a love child with his black housekeeper secret for decades. Anyone think these guys are squeaky clean and righteous, full of family values?
    It's cute that you made names for them just like Trump did towards his opposition.
    They’re not worthy of being called anything but what I’ve determined to be suitable names. Guess it only bothers you when a lib does it, eh? It’s only been four or so years, longer if you include Turd Blossom, Shrub, Darth Cheney, etc.
    No I thought he was childish too.  

    It is comical on how much you bashed him and yet use and continue to do so, a move from his playbook.

    I do miss the P-tape reference though.
    Is POOTWH not worthy of being bashed? Out of office, out of mind? These fucks are why we’re at where we are. You’re entitled to your opinion but you shouldn’t be trying to cancel me. Speaking of me, I’ll do me and you do you, okay?

    As for the PTape, more likely or less likely it exists? 
    After all the blabbering you did about it and Tom Arnold did in his quest for it, I really hope it exists.

    It would open up the idea of unicorns and gnomes to still be real.

    Oh and I would never doubt ANYTHING said ever again.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,327
    mrussel1 said:
    What is POOTWH?
    I figured it was Prior Occupant of the White House.
    BINGO! We have a winnnnah! I refuse to utter or type that POS’s name. Can anyone rightly explain the absolute refusal of the repubs, save a few, to disown that POS? Must be tapes galore. Projection or having been a victim of Putin on the ritz and using the same tactics. Plus, Rodger dodger stoned learned a lot from tricky dick.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,354
    The GOP isn’t just about rampant xenophobia, it’s also about maintaining power no matter the cost (even if that means a few dead Capitol police officers) 

    https://twitter.com/ariberman/status/1354456538082144261?s=21

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,327
    mickeyrat said:
    Afraid of what POOTWH has on him and what might come out if he doesn't toe the line. Or, realizes he doesn't have statewide appeal as either too radical and tarnished or not enough.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 20,595
    edited January 28
    mickeyrat said:
    Afraid of what POOTWH has on him and what might come out if he doesn't toe the line. Or, realizes he doesn't have statewide appeal as either too radical and tarnished or not enough.

    sure win in whatrver his district ends up becoming. Ohio has a new redistricting process
    2 he can continue being the same asshole or worse in the house

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 24,647
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Afraid of what POOTWH has on him and what might come out if he doesn't toe the line. Or, realizes he doesn't have statewide appeal as either too radical and tarnished or not enough.

    sure win in whatrver his district ends up becoming. Ohio has a new redistricting process
    2 he can continue being the same asshole or worse in the house

    He knows damn well a campaign will bring out all the dirt about him into front and center, 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • cutzcutz Posts: 10,061
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Afraid of what POOTWH has on him and what might come out if he doesn't toe the line. Or, realizes he doesn't have statewide appeal as either too radical and tarnished or not enough.

    sure win in whatrver his district ends up becoming. Ohio has a new redistricting process
    2 he can continue being the same asshole or worse in the house

    He knows damn well a campaign will bring out all the dirt about him into front and center, 
    Full story:  https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/06/politics/jordan-osu-wrestlers-strauss-invs/index.html

    Six former wrestlers say Rep. Jim Jordan knew about abusive OSU doctor



    (CNN)Tito Vazquez says he still remembers the day three decades ago when, as a wrestler at Ohio State University, the doctor he'd gone to see about a bloody nose insisted on examining his genitals. He also recalls how one of his coaches dismissed his immediate complaint.

    "'I have nothing to do with this,'" Vazquez quoted the assistant coach saying, as he effectively ended the conversation and went on with wrestling practice.
    That coach, Vazquez says, was Jim Jordan, now an Ohio congressman and an influential voice in Republican politics, perhaps best known for his pugnacious defense of President Donald Trump during the recent impeachment proceedings.

    Vazquez is one of six former OSU wrestlers who told CNN in recent interviews that they were present when Jordan heard or responded to sexual misconduct complaints about team doctor Richard Strauss. Eight others say Strauss' inappropriate behavior was an open secret in the athletic department and that Jordan, among others, must have known about it.
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 7,788
    Spineless and increasingly beholden to the xenophobic base of Trump.

    Hostility between congressional Republicans and Democrats reaches new lows amid growing fears of violence
    By Colby Itkowitz and Mike DeBonis


    It's a hopeless situation...
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,327
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,327
    cutz said:
    That gets her at least 10% more votes.
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero GalaxyPosts: 17,885
    GOP note of the day:

     Republicans are tough on terrorists until the terrorists ARE Republicans.

    Peace
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    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • tbergstbergs Posts: 7,788


    February 2, 2021

    Author Headshot

    By David Leonhardt

     

    Good morning. Why has the U.S. economy fared so much better under Democratic presidents than Republicans?

     

     

    President Franklin D. Roosevelt in the White House in 1944.Henry Burroughs/Associated Press

    Blue at the top, red at the bottom

     

    Has the economy fared better under Democratic presidents or Republican presidents over the past century? The sensible answer might seem to be: It’s probably been similar.

    Presidents, after all, have only limited control over the economy. They don’t have much influence over the millions of decisions every day, made by consumers and business executives, that shape economic growth, jobs, incomes and stock prices. Over the course of a century, it seems logical that the economy would have performed similarly under Democrats and Republicans.

     

    But it hasn’t.

    The economy has fared far better under Democrats. The gap, as one academic paper puts it, is “startlingly large.” Here are the headline numbers:

     

    And here is a ranking of presidents by average annual G.D.P. growth:

     

    The gap exists not only for G.D.P. and jobs but also for incomes, productivity and stock prices. The gap also exists if you assume that a president’s policies affect the economy with a lag and don’t start his economic clock until months after he takes office. Virtually any reasonable look at the data shows a big Democratic advantage.

     

    My colleague Yaryna Serkez and I have just published a piece documenting the pattern and the potential reasons. A few possibilities are easy to reject. It’s not about congressional control, nor is it about Democrats running up larger budget deficits. (Republican presidents have run up larger deficits in recent decades.)

    Coincidence surely plays some role — but it’s highly unlikely to account for the entire gap, given its size, breadth and duration. Yaryna’s and my piece explores some of the most plausible explanations:

     

    • Republican presidents have been slow to respond to recessions and other crises — Donald Trump and both George Bushes being examples. (Herbert Hoover was too, and the partisan gap would be even bigger if the data went back far enough to include him.)
    • Recent Democratic presidents have been more pragmatic, willing to listen to the evidence about when the economy would benefit from deficit reduction and when it needs government support for education, infrastructure, scientific research and more.

     

    • Republican presidents over the past 40 years have pursued one economic policy above all other — tax cuts, skewed heavily toward the affluent — and there is little evidence that they do much for economic growth.

    Our piece has more details and charts, as well as comments from both conservative and liberal economists. Find it all here.

     


    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,607
    cutz said:
    i honestly don't put any stock in these types of pictures. it could easily just be a "hey Sarah! mind taking a selfie with me?" and she says "sure" not having a clue who it actually is. 

    if it was a pic of them riding in a limo, or having dinner together, that would be something. 
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  • cutzcutz Posts: 10,061
    cutz said:
    i honestly don't put any stock in these types of pictures. it could easily just be a "hey Sarah! mind taking a selfie with me?" and she says "sure" not having a clue who it actually is. 

    if it was a pic of them riding in a limo, or having dinner together, that would be something. 
    I agree, but either way it's not a good look.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,354
    cutz said:
    i honestly don't put any stock in these types of pictures. it could easily just be a "hey Sarah! mind taking a selfie with me?" and she says "sure" not having a clue who it actually is. 

    if it was a pic of them riding in a limo, or having dinner together, that would be something. 
    In a vacuum, I agree... these pictures may / could be nothing, but the Proud Boys connection to trump associates has been established. Do you really think this is just a whole lot of smoke & there’s no fire here? 

  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,607
    cutz said:
    i honestly don't put any stock in these types of pictures. it could easily just be a "hey Sarah! mind taking a selfie with me?" and she says "sure" not having a clue who it actually is. 

    if it was a pic of them riding in a limo, or having dinner together, that would be something. 
    In a vacuum, I agree... these pictures may / could be nothing, but the Proud Boys connection to trump associates has been established. Do you really think this is just a whole lot of smoke & there’s no fire here? 
    roger stone is no sarah sanders. she's not stupid. my guess is she didn't know who he was at the time. 
    (Track 10 of The Headstones' Nickels For Your Nightmares)


  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,607
    cutz said:
    cutz said:
    i honestly don't put any stock in these types of pictures. it could easily just be a "hey Sarah! mind taking a selfie with me?" and she says "sure" not having a clue who it actually is. 

    if it was a pic of them riding in a limo, or having dinner together, that would be something. 
    I agree, but either way it's not a good look.
    just like it's not a good look for bill clinton to be pictured with epstein, because everyone knows, a good chunk of society will look at a picture and say "guilty!". 
    (Track 10 of The Headstones' Nickels For Your Nightmares)


  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 26,278
    cutz said:
    cutz said:
    i honestly don't put any stock in these types of pictures. it could easily just be a "hey Sarah! mind taking a selfie with me?" and she says "sure" not having a clue who it actually is. 

    if it was a pic of them riding in a limo, or having dinner together, that would be something. 
    I agree, but either way it's not a good look.
    just like it's not a good look for bill clinton to be pictured with epstein, because everyone knows, a good chunk of society will look at a picture and say "guilty!". 
    Is that an OK sign A white power symbol Or just a right-wing troll   Southern Poverty Law Center
    Here's a better look.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 25,607
    edited February 3
    yeah, as I said and thought was clear, roger stone isn't sarah sanders. there's no doubt about stone's affiliations. 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,354
    cutz said:
    i honestly don't put any stock in these types of pictures. it could easily just be a "hey Sarah! mind taking a selfie with me?" and she says "sure" not having a clue who it actually is. 

    if it was a pic of them riding in a limo, or having dinner together, that would be something. 
    In a vacuum, I agree... these pictures may / could be nothing, but the Proud Boys connection to trump associates has been established. Do you really think this is just a whole lot of smoke & there’s no fire here? 
    roger stone is no sarah sanders. she's not stupid. my guess is she didn't know who he was at the time. 

    She was the press secretary for an administration that courted and cozied up to these "very fine people" - a job she performed with great skill, passion, and also dishonesty. The plausible deniability angle is valid, but how much benefit of the doubt should be extended, all things considered? 

    I do agree, in and of itself, this picture means nothing. 

    But when this & pictures of proud boys cozying up to the likes of Don Jr, Lindsey Graham & others are considered in the context of who and what this administration was, dismissing it as an innocent faux pas is a hard sell. 

  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 26,278
    cutz said:
    i honestly don't put any stock in these types of pictures. it could easily just be a "hey Sarah! mind taking a selfie with me?" and she says "sure" not having a clue who it actually is. 

    if it was a pic of them riding in a limo, or having dinner together, that would be something. 
    In a vacuum, I agree... these pictures may / could be nothing, but the Proud Boys connection to trump associates has been established. Do you really think this is just a whole lot of smoke & there’s no fire here? 
    roger stone is no sarah sanders. she's not stupid. my guess is she didn't know who he was at the time. 

    She was the press secretary for an administration that courted and cozied up to these "very fine people" - a job she performed with great skill, passion, and also dishonesty. The plausible deniability angle is valid, but how much benefit of the doubt should be extended, all things considered? 

    I do agree, in and of itself, this picture means nothing. 

    But when this & pictures of proud boys cozying up to the likes of Don Jr, Lindsey Graham & others are considered in the context of who and what this administration was, dismissing it as an innocent faux pas is a hard sell. 
    There was someone that did this to a congresswoman or senator, asked for a selfie then he proceeded to tell her to "Go Fuck Herself".

    I thought that was classy, no matter how much you disagree with them should you do this...
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