UK tribute band getting a cease and desist

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,983
    This is just a lesson to bands that you should still be even a tiny bit creative wherever possible even if you’re a tribute act.  Or maybe not if you want to get famous for a week. 

    I really enjoyed the Black Circle webcasts during the pandemic.  Those guys were good. 
    yeah, I dug that band. too bad getting their music is so expensive. 

    Legal Jam? Using the fucking stickman for their shirts? and people are defending this? LOL
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,169
    PJNB said:
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    Legal Jam 

  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,365
    why not go for two and call is Def Jamm?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,365
    sorry i am not trying to shit on anybody, but they should have known better. there are dozens of songs and albums, or phrases referenced by the band that would have been way more subtle and less blatant. pearl jamm is probably the worst name a pj tribute could have picked.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,169
    "A name doesn't define us, mostly because we just ripped it off from someone else"
  • beano.79beano.79 Posts: 781
    Legal Jam... oh dear🤦‍♂️
  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 5,111
    This is just a lesson to bands that you should still be even a tiny bit creative wherever possible even if you’re a tribute act.  Or maybe not if you want to get famous for a week. 

    I really enjoyed the Black Circle webcasts during the pandemic.  Those guys were good. 
    yeah, I dug that band. too bad getting their music is so expensive. 

    Legal Jam? Using the fucking stickman for their shirts? and people are defending this? LOL
    $45 for the record and $12 to ship is a little bit too much for me. You can download it on Amazon for around $10 though. I might end up doing that. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,983
    This is just a lesson to bands that you should still be even a tiny bit creative wherever possible even if you’re a tribute act.  Or maybe not if you want to get famous for a week. 

    I really enjoyed the Black Circle webcasts during the pandemic.  Those guys were good. 
    yeah, I dug that band. too bad getting their music is so expensive. 

    Legal Jam? Using the fucking stickman for their shirts? and people are defending this? LOL
    $45 for the record and $12 to ship is a little bit too much for me. You can download it on Amazon for around $10 though. I might end up doing that. 
    yeah, i can get it for $10 on apple. I was interested in the vinyl, but way too steep. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,169
    edited January 2021
    This is just a lesson to bands that you should still be even a tiny bit creative wherever possible even if you’re a tribute act.  Or maybe not if you want to get famous for a week. 

    I really enjoyed the Black Circle webcasts during the pandemic.  Those guys were good. 
    i did not follow the black circle thing. i am familiar with them having seen a few videos on social media a few months ago.

    how could they get away with it with approval from Ed? is it because their name was different?
    As far as I can tell, Black Circle have a bunch of original music and none of their branding even hints at Pearl Jam. If someone just told me to check these guys out, I think it would take a while to figure out they do a Pearl Jam tribute.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,365
    pjl44 said:
    This is just a lesson to bands that you should still be even a tiny bit creative wherever possible even if you’re a tribute act.  Or maybe not if you want to get famous for a week. 

    I really enjoyed the Black Circle webcasts during the pandemic.  Those guys were good. 
    i did not follow the black circle thing. i am familiar with them having seen a few videos on social media a few months ago.

    how could they get away with it with approval from Ed? is it because their name was different?
    As far as I can tell, Black Circle have a bunch of original music and none of their branding even hints at Pearl Jam. If someone just told me to check these guys out, I think it would take a while to figure out they do a Pearl Jam tribute.
    ah gotcha.

    it is different being an original band that happens to do some pj tribute on the side.

    i would like to check out some of their originals but i am just inundated with new albums and new bands to digest at the moment.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 10,169
    pjl44 said:
    This is just a lesson to bands that you should still be even a tiny bit creative wherever possible even if you’re a tribute act.  Or maybe not if you want to get famous for a week. 

    I really enjoyed the Black Circle webcasts during the pandemic.  Those guys were good. 
    i did not follow the black circle thing. i am familiar with them having seen a few videos on social media a few months ago.

    how could they get away with it with approval from Ed? is it because their name was different?
    As far as I can tell, Black Circle have a bunch of original music and none of their branding even hints at Pearl Jam. If someone just told me to check these guys out, I think it would take a while to figure out they do a Pearl Jam tribute.
    ah gotcha.

    it is different being an original band that happens to do some pj tribute on the side.

    i would like to check out some of their originals but i am just inundated with new albums and new bands to digest at the moment.
    Same here. And to be fair, I am by no means an expert on these guys. Decided to check them out just now to get a handle on the difference and that is my impression. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,983
    pjl44 said:
    This is just a lesson to bands that you should still be even a tiny bit creative wherever possible even if you’re a tribute act.  Or maybe not if you want to get famous for a week. 

    I really enjoyed the Black Circle webcasts during the pandemic.  Those guys were good. 
    i did not follow the black circle thing. i am familiar with them having seen a few videos on social media a few months ago.

    how could they get away with it with approval from Ed? is it because their name was different?
    As far as I can tell, Black Circle have a bunch of original music and none of their branding even hints at Pearl Jam. If someone just told me to check these guys out, I think it would take a while to figure out they do a Pearl Jam tribute.
    ah gotcha.

    it is different being an original band that happens to do some pj tribute on the side.

    i would like to check out some of their originals but i am just inundated with new albums and new bands to digest at the moment.
    why do you think Black Circle would need approval from ed?
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,365
    pjl44 said:
    This is just a lesson to bands that you should still be even a tiny bit creative wherever possible even if you’re a tribute act.  Or maybe not if you want to get famous for a week. 

    I really enjoyed the Black Circle webcasts during the pandemic.  Those guys were good. 
    i did not follow the black circle thing. i am familiar with them having seen a few videos on social media a few months ago.

    how could they get away with it with approval from Ed? is it because their name was different?
    As far as I can tell, Black Circle have a bunch of original music and none of their branding even hints at Pearl Jam. If someone just told me to check these guys out, I think it would take a while to figure out they do a Pearl Jam tribute.
    ah gotcha.

    it is different being an original band that happens to do some pj tribute on the side.

    i would like to check out some of their originals but i am just inundated with new albums and new bands to digest at the moment.
    why do you think Black Circle would need approval from ed?
    i do not think they need it. i just remember seeing some promotional stuff on social media where Ed and Jill were somehow affilliated with whatever the band was involved with. maybe a fundraiser or something? i did not pay attention at the time.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,983
    pjl44 said:
    This is just a lesson to bands that you should still be even a tiny bit creative wherever possible even if you’re a tribute act.  Or maybe not if you want to get famous for a week. 

    I really enjoyed the Black Circle webcasts during the pandemic.  Those guys were good. 
    i did not follow the black circle thing. i am familiar with them having seen a few videos on social media a few months ago.

    how could they get away with it with approval from Ed? is it because their name was different?
    As far as I can tell, Black Circle have a bunch of original music and none of their branding even hints at Pearl Jam. If someone just told me to check these guys out, I think it would take a while to figure out they do a Pearl Jam tribute.
    ah gotcha.

    it is different being an original band that happens to do some pj tribute on the side.

    i would like to check out some of their originals but i am just inundated with new albums and new bands to digest at the moment.
    why do you think Black Circle would need approval from ed?
    i do not think they need it. i just remember seeing some promotional stuff on social media where Ed and Jill were somehow affilliated with whatever the band was involved with. maybe a fundraiser or something? i did not pay attention at the time.
    yeah, I don't know how that relationship started. But Jill said something on instagram about them actually being friends or "friendly" with the band. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • neddie vedderneddie vedder 93 million miles from the sun Posts: 194
    Yeah I’m with the band on this one..that merch they are selling is a blatant rip off and totally unacceptable 
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  • Litigiousness is never cool. This is the first uncool thing I can remember PJ doing, ever. How could you possibly thing that PJ is hurting for money, in any way? What, do they want their grandchildren to not have to work? Look at their revenues per concert. Half their fans make under 50,000 U.S. per year. You think blokes in a tribute band are getting rich? How much do you have to love a band to only play their songs? Threatening action against a tribute band is not the same as taking on TicketMaster. Eddie, please stop the nonsense and go back to defending women getting hassles in the crowd. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,983
    Wybeelius said:
    Litigiousness is never cool. This is the first uncool thing I can remember PJ doing, ever. How could you possibly thing that PJ is hurting for money, in any way? What, do they want their grandchildren to not have to work? Look at their revenues per concert. Half their fans make under 50,000 U.S. per year. You think blokes in a tribute band are getting rich? How much do you have to love a band to only play their songs? Threatening action against a tribute band is not the same as taking on TicketMaster. Eddie, please stop the nonsense and go back to defending women getting hassles in the crowd. 
    you think this is about money?
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,225
    That anyone is defending this cover band or thinks Pearl Jam should have handled this any other way is laughable. 

    Learn the bare minimum about trademark & copyright infringement, people. 
  • Wybeelius said:
    This is the first uncool thing I can remember PJ doing, ever. 
    Ahem..

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,983
    first post = member of Legal Jam?
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 12,225
    first post = member of Legal Jam?
      
     :D 
  • RatherBeRatherBe Posts: 270
    edited January 2021
    LOL, that's plainly copyright infringement. No two ways around it. What exactly are Double-M whinging about? They can't just use Single-M's logos and artwork with impunity. What are they inhaling? My sympathy is not with these guys at all. They might be the nicest guys in the universe for all I know but, damn, change your name. You're a tribute band, not a copycat band, right? WTF?
    Post edited by RatherBe on
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  • RatherBeRatherBe Posts: 270
    This is just a lesson to bands that you should still be even a tiny bit creative wherever possible even if you’re a tribute act.  Or maybe not if you want to get famous for a week. 

    I really enjoyed the Black Circle webcasts during the pandemic.  Those guys were good. 
    Another great name for a tribute band.
    It's a disease and they're all green, it emanates from their being...
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,983
    i'd also like to know what portion of the internet they apparently set on fire. i must have missed that. 
    "every society honours its live conformists and its dead troublemakers"




  • RatherBeRatherBe Posts: 270
    why not go for two and call is Def Jamm?
    Deaf Jamm might be more fitting.
    It's a disease and they're all green, it emanates from their being...
  • Legal Jam?

    That's their response?  Lol.  Yikes.   

    In place of the stick man, they will be using an ambulance arriving at an accident scene.
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • i'd also like to know what portion of the internet they apparently set on fire. i must have missed that. 
    This thread. It's more like smoldering, but let them have this one thing. Can't you?  
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
  • i'd also like to know what portion of the internet they apparently set on fire. i must have missed that. 
    This thread. It's more like smoldering, but let them have this one thing. Can't you?  

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,552
    Their response is the most childish thing that could have come from this. 
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