UK tribute band getting a cease and desist

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,729
    leespj said:
    I can understand Pearl Jam's management and lawyer's etc having an issue with Pearl Jamm but why (if true) has the band instigated this? Disappointed. If anything Tribute bands only enhance the Pearl Jam brand. Tribute bands can generate more fans of the actual genuine band or even get casual fans going to more gigs, former fans returning to the band they once loved, buying more merch etc.
    Petty if you ask me.  I really hope this is a management and legal matter rather than the band wanting it dealt with. 


    I think Pearl Jam enhances Pearl Jam.   Tribute bands are cool but I think you are way off on their influence.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,956
    mcgruff10 said:
    leespj said:
    I can understand Pearl Jam's management and lawyer's etc having an issue with Pearl Jamm but why (if true) has the band instigated this? Disappointed. If anything Tribute bands only enhance the Pearl Jam brand. Tribute bands can generate more fans of the actual genuine band or even get casual fans going to more gigs, former fans returning to the band they once loved, buying more merch etc.
    Petty if you ask me.  I really hope this is a management and legal matter rather than the band wanting it dealt with. 


    I think Pearl Jam enhances Pearl Jam.   Tribute bands are cool but I think you are way off on their influence.  
    The ONLY reason they sell tickets in Missoula is because No Kodiak holds it down between Tester benefits 
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,729
    pjl44 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    leespj said:
    I can understand Pearl Jam's management and lawyer's etc having an issue with Pearl Jamm but why (if true) has the band instigated this? Disappointed. If anything Tribute bands only enhance the Pearl Jam brand. Tribute bands can generate more fans of the actual genuine band or even get casual fans going to more gigs, former fans returning to the band they once loved, buying more merch etc.
    Petty if you ask me.  I really hope this is a management and legal matter rather than the band wanting it dealt with. 


    I think Pearl Jam enhances Pearl Jam.   Tribute bands are cool but I think you are way off on their influence.  
    The ONLY reason they sell tickets in Missoula is because No Kodiak holds it down between Tester benefits 
    Same with Fenway.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • crookedcrosscrookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,514
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
  • SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,141
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
    Ha, if they would have done a friendly cease and desist phone call or email before the formal cease and desist letter it would have been totally cool  (◔_◔)
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,869
    edited January 2021
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
    I am fairly certain you are saying this, just because this is what Pearl Jam did.

    If Pearl jam's team would have sent out a more "imformal"  "Hey mannn..." response, your post - I am certain - would have been about how that is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. 

    The same with many people in here.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44 said:
    leespj said:
    I can understand Pearl Jam's management and lawyer's etc having an issue with Pearl Jamm but why (if true) has the band instigated this? Disappointed. If anything Tribute bands only enhance the Pearl Jam brand. Tribute bands can generate more fans of the actual genuine band or even get casual fans going to more gigs, former fans returning to the band they once loved, buying more merch etc.
    Petty if you ask me.  I really hope this is a management and legal matter rather than the band wanting it dealt with. 


    They seem to be totally cool with the myriad other tribute bands who weren't dumb enough to name themselves Pearl Jamm and sell stickman t-shirts 
    Exactamundo 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • crookedcrosscrookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,514
    SHZA said:
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
    Ha, if they would have done a friendly cease and desist phone call or email before the formal cease and desist letter it would have been totally cool  (◔_◔)
    Pearl Jam is a brand, a company if you may. A big one. You actually believe they should've called or emailed some dude/s across the pond? (◔_◔)
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,869
    edited January 2021
    SHZA said:
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
    Ha, if they would have done a friendly cease and desist phone call or email before the formal cease and desist letter it would have been totally cool  (◔_◔)
    Pearl Jam is a brand, a company if you may. A big one. You actually believe they should've called or emailed some dude/s across the pond? (◔_◔)
    Well, I mean they must have a pretty good deal with Verizon? If you worry about the phone cost.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • crookedcrosscrookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,514
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
    I am fairly certain you are saying this, just because this is what Pearl Jam did.

    If Pearl jam's team would have sent out a more "imformal"  "Hey mannn..." response, your post - I am certain - would have been about how that is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. 

    The same with many people in here.
    Nope. I wouldn't have expected anything less. I only have unrealistic expectations with my sports teams. 
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,956
    If naming your tribute band Pearl Jamm gets you a call or letter from a band member do you think that will lead to fewer or more tribute bands ganking your name? Another reason why you just have your lawyer send a letter.
  • Who has said a band member should have called them?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,940

    In the adult world, cease and desist letters are a normal thing and adults don't get upset about receiving them when they are stealing someone else's intellectual property. 
  • Peasant TentsPeasant Tents UK Posts: 862
    Nobody should call the copy band. They should just be written to like any other business. The name and merch was poor. So is the new name.  the whole "tribute" written statement thing!
     As for the horrendous very limited "tribute EV telecasters" they make and sell...  
    In any case, I have never seen them, never will. I just don't appreciate cover bands. Especially the ones who somehow inhabit their idols like in Stars in Their Eyes.  I get people doing that once on a crappy show, but making a habit of it makes me feel slightly uncomfortable . 
    Appreciate some like it. Just not for me.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,869
    edited January 2021
    nvm
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tjm007Tjm007 Posts: 185
    What should a PJ tribute band be called ?
    Jearl Pam ? 
    Alive
    Quiet Act 
    Fakinball 
    Teddy Vedder and the 1 song an album writing credit backing band ?
  • SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,141
    SHZA said:
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
    Ha, if they would have done a friendly cease and desist phone call or email before the formal cease and desist letter it would have been totally cool  (◔_◔)
    Pearl Jam is a brand, a company if you may. A big one. You actually believe they should've called or emailed some dude/s across the pond? (◔_◔)
    No, I was agreeing with you. Pointing out that it's not realistic, for those that think the band should have done something else instead of the letter that was sent. 
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,134
    pjl44 said:
    If naming your tribute band Pearl Jamm gets you a call or letter from a band member do you think that will lead to fewer or more tribute bands ganking your name? Another reason why you just have your lawyer send a letter.
    i was just going to say this exact thing. "hey, i'm going to start performing as eddie veddur and maybe Ed will personally call me to ask me politely to stop!". 
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  • pjl44 said:
    If naming your tribute band Pearl Jamm gets you a call or letter from a band member do you think that will lead to fewer or more tribute bands ganking your name? Another reason why you just have your lawyer send a letter.
    i was just going to say this exact thing. "hey, i'm going to start performing as eddie veddur and maybe Ed will personally call me to ask me politely to stop!". 
    So again, who has said that Eddie Vedder should have called them up?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,092
    pjl44 said:
    If naming your tribute band Pearl Jamm gets you a call or letter from a band member do you think that will lead to fewer or more tribute bands ganking your name? Another reason why you just have your lawyer send a letter.
    i was just going to say this exact thing. "hey, i'm going to start performing as eddie veddur and maybe Ed will personally call me to ask me politely to stop!". 
    So again, who has said that Eddie Vedder should have called them up?
    The cover band.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,869
    edited January 2021
    pjl44 said:
    If naming your tribute band Pearl Jamm gets you a call or letter from a band member do you think that will lead to fewer or more tribute bands ganking your name? Another reason why you just have your lawyer send a letter.
    i was just going to say this exact thing. "hey, i'm going to start performing as eddie veddur and maybe Ed will personally call me to ask me politely to stop!". 
    So again, who has said that Eddie Vedder should have called them up?
    The cover band.
    Haha. In the overly long sttement? Need to read it. 

    This sure is a Legal Pickle.

    EDIT: Haha. "We would have had reached out to you"
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited January 2021
    Lol
    Post edited by cp3iverson on
  • crookedcrosscrookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,514
    SHZA said:
    SHZA said:
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
    Ha, if they would have done a friendly cease and desist phone call or email before the formal cease and desist letter it would have been totally cool  (◔_◔)
    Pearl Jam is a brand, a company if you may. A big one. You actually believe they should've called or emailed some dude/s across the pond? (◔_◔)
    No, I was agreeing with you. Pointing out that it's not realistic, for those that think the band should have done something else instead of the letter that was sent. 
    My bad my bad. We need a sarcasm font. I suck at reading into emojis  Lol 
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,956
     As for the horrendous very limited "tribute EV telecasters" they make and sell...  
    I had to look this up. Slap a couple stickers on and sell a telecaster for almost double the price. These guys are a trip.
  • PorchRatsPorchRats Albany, NY Posts: 164
    RatherBe said:
    PorchRats said:
    PJ has gotten lamer and lamer over the years... sad to see 😕
    Porch Rats would be a great name for a Pearl Jam tribute band.
    Ha definitely. To be clear I do think it’s totally reasonable to request the change. I just wish they didn’t go straight to lawyers to do it 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,306
    pjl44 said:
    If naming your tribute band Pearl Jamm gets you a call or letter from a band member do you think that will lead to fewer or more tribute bands ganking your name? Another reason why you just have your lawyer send a letter.
    if i got a cease and desist from the band i would do the following:

    1. immediately change my band name and immediately stop selling pirated merch
    2. NOT go on various social media sites and advertise my butthurt, nor send a letter appealing to members of pearl jam
    3. see #1. do not change new band name to draw attention to the fact that pearl jam legal team is making us change our name
    4. frame and hang that cease and desist letter on my wall. because when you think about it, getting any kind of letter from the band's legal team is actually pretty metal.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,306
    Nobody should call the copy band. They should just be written to like any other business. The name and merch was poor. So is the new name.  the whole "tribute" written statement thing!
     As for the horrendous very limited "tribute EV telecasters" they make and sell...  
    In any case, I have never seen them, never will. I just don't appreciate cover bands. Especially the ones who somehow inhabit their idols like in Stars in Their Eyes.  I get people doing that once on a crappy show, but making a habit of it makes me feel slightly uncomfortable . 
    Appreciate some like it. Just not for me.
    who is selling these teles and why have I not seen them? anybody got a link?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,956
    Nobody should call the copy band. They should just be written to like any other business. The name and merch was poor. So is the new name.  the whole "tribute" written statement thing!
     As for the horrendous very limited "tribute EV telecasters" they make and sell...  
    In any case, I have never seen them, never will. I just don't appreciate cover bands. Especially the ones who somehow inhabit their idols like in Stars in Their Eyes.  I get people doing that once on a crappy show, but making a habit of it makes me feel slightly uncomfortable . 
    Appreciate some like it. Just not for me.
    who is selling these teles and why have I not seen them? anybody got a link?
    It wouldn't surprise me if linking to it is frowned upon. Just Google the illegal band name, our favorite lead singer, and the guitar type. I found it that way.
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,729
    Nobody should call the copy band. They should just be written to like any other business. The name and merch was poor. So is the new name.  the whole "tribute" written statement thing!
     As for the horrendous very limited "tribute EV telecasters" they make and sell...  
    In any case, I have never seen them, never will. I just don't appreciate cover bands. Especially the ones who somehow inhabit their idols like in Stars in Their Eyes.  I get people doing that once on a crappy show, but making a habit of it makes me feel slightly uncomfortable . 
    Appreciate some like it. Just not for me.
    who is selling these teles and why have I not seen them? anybody got a link?
    It’s a squier tele, not a fender.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,940
    mcgruff10 said:
    Nobody should call the copy band. They should just be written to like any other business. The name and merch was poor. So is the new name.  the whole "tribute" written statement thing!
     As for the horrendous very limited "tribute EV telecasters" they make and sell...  
    In any case, I have never seen them, never will. I just don't appreciate cover bands. Especially the ones who somehow inhabit their idols like in Stars in Their Eyes.  I get people doing that once on a crappy show, but making a habit of it makes me feel slightly uncomfortable . 
    Appreciate some like it. Just not for me.
    who is selling these teles and why have I not seen them? anybody got a link?
    It’s a squier tele, not a fender.  
    Just saw it... that's sad.

    Am I the only one who's thinking the cease & desist WAS polite? If PJ really wanted to be dicks they could have outright sued them. 
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