UK tribute band getting a cease and desist

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    leespj said:
    I can understand Pearl Jam's management and lawyer's etc having an issue with Pearl Jamm but why (if true) has the band instigated this? Disappointed. If anything Tribute bands only enhance the Pearl Jam brand. Tribute bands can generate more fans of the actual genuine band or even get casual fans going to more gigs, former fans returning to the band they once loved, buying more merch etc.
    Petty if you ask me.  I really hope this is a management and legal matter rather than the band wanting it dealt with. 


    I think Pearl Jam enhances Pearl Jam.   Tribute bands are cool but I think you are way off on their influence.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,523
    mcgruff10 said:
    leespj said:
    I can understand Pearl Jam's management and lawyer's etc having an issue with Pearl Jamm but why (if true) has the band instigated this? Disappointed. If anything Tribute bands only enhance the Pearl Jam brand. Tribute bands can generate more fans of the actual genuine band or even get casual fans going to more gigs, former fans returning to the band they once loved, buying more merch etc.
    Petty if you ask me.  I really hope this is a management and legal matter rather than the band wanting it dealt with. 


    I think Pearl Jam enhances Pearl Jam.   Tribute bands are cool but I think you are way off on their influence.  
    The ONLY reason they sell tickets in Missoula is because No Kodiak holds it down between Tester benefits 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    pjl44 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    leespj said:
    I can understand Pearl Jam's management and lawyer's etc having an issue with Pearl Jamm but why (if true) has the band instigated this? Disappointed. If anything Tribute bands only enhance the Pearl Jam brand. Tribute bands can generate more fans of the actual genuine band or even get casual fans going to more gigs, former fans returning to the band they once loved, buying more merch etc.
    Petty if you ask me.  I really hope this is a management and legal matter rather than the band wanting it dealt with. 


    I think Pearl Jam enhances Pearl Jam.   Tribute bands are cool but I think you are way off on their influence.  
    The ONLY reason they sell tickets in Missoula is because No Kodiak holds it down between Tester benefits 
    Same with Fenway.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • crookedcross
    crookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,545
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    crookedcross said:
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
    Ha, if they would have done a friendly cease and desist phone call or email before the formal cease and desist letter it would have been totally cool  (◔_◔)
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    edited January 2021
    crookedcross said:
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
    I am fairly certain you are saying this, just because this is what Pearl Jam did.

    If Pearl jam's team would have sent out a more "imformal"  "Hey mannn..." response, your post - I am certain - would have been about how that is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. 

    The same with many people in here.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    pjl44 said:
    leespj said:
    I can understand Pearl Jam's management and lawyer's etc having an issue with Pearl Jamm but why (if true) has the band instigated this? Disappointed. If anything Tribute bands only enhance the Pearl Jam brand. Tribute bands can generate more fans of the actual genuine band or even get casual fans going to more gigs, former fans returning to the band they once loved, buying more merch etc.
    Petty if you ask me.  I really hope this is a management and legal matter rather than the band wanting it dealt with. 


    They seem to be totally cool with the myriad other tribute bands who weren't dumb enough to name themselves Pearl Jamm and sell stickman t-shirts 
    Exactamundo 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • crookedcross
    crookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,545
    SHZA said:
    crookedcross said:
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
    Ha, if they would have done a friendly cease and desist phone call or email before the formal cease and desist letter it would have been totally cool  (◔_◔)
    Pearl Jam is a brand, a company if you may. A big one. You actually believe they should've called or emailed some dude/s across the pond? (◔_◔)
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    edited January 2021
    crookedcross said:
    SHZA said:
    crookedcross said:
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
    Ha, if they would have done a friendly cease and desist phone call or email before the formal cease and desist letter it would have been totally cool  (◔_◔)
    Pearl Jam is a brand, a company if you may. A big one. You actually believe they should've called or emailed some dude/s across the pond? (◔_◔)
    Well, I mean they must have a pretty good deal with Verizon? If you worry about the phone cost.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • crookedcross
    crookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,545
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    crookedcross said:
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
    I am fairly certain you are saying this, just because this is what Pearl Jam did.

    If Pearl jam's team would have sent out a more "imformal"  "Hey mannn..." response, your post - I am certain - would have been about how that is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. 

    The same with many people in here.
    Nope. I wouldn't have expected anything less. I only have unrealistic expectations with my sports teams. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,523
    If naming your tribute band Pearl Jamm gets you a call or letter from a band member do you think that will lead to fewer or more tribute bands ganking your name? Another reason why you just have your lawyer send a letter.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    Who has said a band member should have called them?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,766

    In the adult world, cease and desist letters are a normal thing and adults don't get upset about receiving them when they are stealing someone else's intellectual property. 
  • Peasant Tents
    Peasant Tents UK Posts: 863
    Nobody should call the copy band. They should just be written to like any other business. The name and merch was poor. So is the new name.  the whole "tribute" written statement thing!
     As for the horrendous very limited "tribute EV telecasters" they make and sell...  
    In any case, I have never seen them, never will. I just don't appreciate cover bands. Especially the ones who somehow inhabit their idols like in Stars in Their Eyes.  I get people doing that once on a crappy show, but making a habit of it makes me feel slightly uncomfortable . 
    Appreciate some like it. Just not for me.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    edited January 2021
    nvm
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tjm007
    Tjm007 Posts: 189
    What should a PJ tribute band be called ?
    Jearl Pam ? 
    Alive
    Quiet Act 
    Fakinball 
    Teddy Vedder and the 1 song an album writing credit backing band ?
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    crookedcross said:
    SHZA said:
    crookedcross said:
    MedozK said:
    Lazy, blatant copyright infringement. I have no problem with Pearl Jam being aggressive in protecting their intellectual property.
    The funny thing is people are reacting like PJ did this incredibly shitty thing. Cease and desist is pretty much the least aggressive approach to something like this. P Jamm acts like Pearl Jam is some shitty garage band who performs in a storage unit and would just come up to them and say "hey mannn... that's so not cool... change your band's name brooo."
    Ha, if they would have done a friendly cease and desist phone call or email before the formal cease and desist letter it would have been totally cool  (◔_◔)
    Pearl Jam is a brand, a company if you may. A big one. You actually believe they should've called or emailed some dude/s across the pond? (◔_◔)
    No, I was agreeing with you. Pointing out that it's not realistic, for those that think the band should have done something else instead of the letter that was sent. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,455
    pjl44 said:
    If naming your tribute band Pearl Jamm gets you a call or letter from a band member do you think that will lead to fewer or more tribute bands ganking your name? Another reason why you just have your lawyer send a letter.
    i was just going to say this exact thing. "hey, i'm going to start performing as eddie veddur and maybe Ed will personally call me to ask me politely to stop!". 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,458
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pjl44 said:
    If naming your tribute band Pearl Jamm gets you a call or letter from a band member do you think that will lead to fewer or more tribute bands ganking your name? Another reason why you just have your lawyer send a letter.
    i was just going to say this exact thing. "hey, i'm going to start performing as eddie veddur and maybe Ed will personally call me to ask me politely to stop!". 
    So again, who has said that Eddie Vedder should have called them up?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    pjl44 said:
    If naming your tribute band Pearl Jamm gets you a call or letter from a band member do you think that will lead to fewer or more tribute bands ganking your name? Another reason why you just have your lawyer send a letter.
    i was just going to say this exact thing. "hey, i'm going to start performing as eddie veddur and maybe Ed will personally call me to ask me politely to stop!". 
    So again, who has said that Eddie Vedder should have called them up?
    The cover band.

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