*** DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED FOR A SECOND TIME *** (392 days after the first)

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
    no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it. 
    I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.

    Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
    sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low. 

    many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser. 

    the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail. 
    Yeah, I strongly disagree with this. Huge difference now, with republicans calling for impeachment and a large portion of his cabinet resigning in protest. WH counsel is considering resigning at this point. The walls are actually closing in right now. 
    i've been hearing this for 4 years. 

    care to make it interesting?
    Lol.
    If you cannot see that they are this time, I'm not sure what to tell you. 

    How would you propose that we make the odds of something happening interesting? I am not saying it will happen. I am saying the odds of it happening are much higher than you think. 
    I've also been hearing this for 4 years. 

    I see the walls are closing in. I'm saying Trump won't see the walls closing in, and won't resign. he has zero self awareness. He'd still contend his ship isn't sinking as his lungs are filling up. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited January 2021
    2021
    SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
    no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it. 
    I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.

    Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
    sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low. 

    many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser. 

    the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail. 
    Yeah, I strongly disagree with this. Huge difference now, with republicans calling for impeachment and a large portion of his cabinet resigning in protest. WH counsel is considering resigning at this point. The walls are actually closing in right now. 
    i've been hearing this for 4 years. 

    care to make it interesting?
    Lol.
    If you cannot see that they are this time, I'm not sure what to tell you. 

    How would you propose that we make the odds of something happening interesting? I am not saying it will happen. I am saying the odds of it happening are much higher than you think. 
    I've also been hearing this for 4 years. 

    I see the walls are closing in. I'm saying Trump won't see the walls closing in, and won't resign. he has zero self awareness. He'd still contend his ship isn't sinking as his lungs are filling up. 
    And less than a year ago he was impeached for the first time. So you've been hearing that for good reason.

    Reports are the the only reason he released those half assed videos urging calm was because lawyers convinced him he could face criminal charges for inciting a riot that lead to multiple deaths. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    edited January 2021
    i'm aware of all of that. none of that convinces me he will resign. i'd be thrilled if I end up being wrong. I'd love for that to be his legacy. I just don't see it happening. 
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769
    i'm aware of all of that. none of that convinces me he will resign. i'd be thrilled if I end up being wrong. I'd love for that to be his legacy. I just don't see it happening. 
    I think the only way he resigns is if he's guaranteed a pardon, and since he can't be pardoned in the states... I don't see it happening. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,112
    No way he resigns.  He isn't going to do shit for the next 12 days except play golf and tweet.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    i'm aware of all of that. none of that convinces me he will resign. i'd be thrilled if I end up being wrong. I'd love for that to be his legacy. I just don't see it happening. 
    I think the only way he resigns is if he's guaranteed a pardon, and since he can't be pardoned in the states... I don't see it happening. 
    and it would be the ultimate disgrace to his supporters. the constant message has been "strength" and "don't give up" and "fight!". turning around and resigning a week later would make him a complete failure, even to his own magats. 
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  • static111
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    OnWis97 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    benjs said:
    I think a second impeachment could work. Republicans lawmakers could certainly use anything to recover from the fallout of supporting this lunatic for so long, and have proven their spinelessness plenty of times in the past four years. Seems like an easy scapegoat to me.

    Thoughts?

    except those who want to capture the cult
    Anyone in the Republican party not supporting Trump is being labelled as enemies by the Faithful. I work in Indiana, so I am around Hoosiers all day. They have labelled Pence, Braun and Young as spineless traitors for not backing the coup.
    It’s scary for our future.  But I can’t help but kind of enjoy watching the monster they created turn on them.
    Well I expected Trump to burn the republican party to the ground all along. Didn't realize it will take until the final days of his presidency for it to happen. I'd assume there will be a more viable third party formed in the coming years that will essentially just fracture up that portion of the vote....which, I'd assume, is good news if you are a democrat.
    Nah when voting time comes again they will all rally
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  • static111
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    What would they pardon him from?  Doesn’t a pardon have to be specific?  Or can they say pardoned from all known and unknown crimes committed while in office? That would be stupid. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
    edited January 2021
    2021
    static111 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    benjs said:
    I think a second impeachment could work. Republicans lawmakers could certainly use anything to recover from the fallout of supporting this lunatic for so long, and have proven their spinelessness plenty of times in the past four years. Seems like an easy scapegoat to me.

    Thoughts?

    except those who want to capture the cult
    Anyone in the Republican party not supporting Trump is being labelled as enemies by the Faithful. I work in Indiana, so I am around Hoosiers all day. They have labelled Pence, Braun and Young as spineless traitors for not backing the coup.
    It’s scary for our future.  But I can’t help but kind of enjoy watching the monster they created turn on them.
    Well I expected Trump to burn the republican party to the ground all along. Didn't realize it will take until the final days of his presidency for it to happen. I'd assume there will be a more viable third party formed in the coming years that will essentially just fracture up that portion of the vote....which, I'd assume, is good news if you are a democrat.
    Nah when voting time comes again they will all rally
    Probably but if Trump causes enough commotion, it definitely could splinter the vote. 
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  • The Juggler
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    static111 said:
    What would they pardon him from?  Doesn’t a pardon have to be specific?  Or can they say pardoned from all known and unknown crimes committed while in office? That would be stupid. 
    I am certain it will be as vast and far ranging as is humanly possible. Only for federal charges though. 
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  • The Juggler
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    i'm aware of all of that. none of that convinces me he will resign. i'd be thrilled if I end up being wrong. I'd love for that to be his legacy. I just don't see it happening. 
    I don't think it happens either, but it is a definite possibility. 
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  • OnWis97
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    SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
    no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it. 
    I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.

    Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
    sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low. 

    many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser. 

    the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail. 
    Yeah, I strongly disagree with this. Huge difference now, with republicans calling for impeachment and a large portion of his cabinet resigning in protest. WH counsel is considering resigning at this point. The walls are actually closing in right now
    Mueller time!
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  • The Juggler
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    OnWis97 said:
    SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
    no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it. 
    I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.

    Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
    sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low. 

    many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser. 

    the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail. 
    Yeah, I strongly disagree with this. Huge difference now, with republicans calling for impeachment and a large portion of his cabinet resigning in protest. WH counsel is considering resigning at this point. The walls are actually closing in right now
    Mueller time!
    Impeachment...2.0 baby! Woo
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  • What a smarmy fuck that Lindsey Flimsey Flip Flop Faloozy Graham is.


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  • JeBurkhardt
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    I read, possibly here, that Graham should resign from Congress to fulfill his lifetime goal of becoming a full time weathervane.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
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    graham just left town. got accosted by the angry q mob at the airport too.

    ya hate to see it.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
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    this is actually pretty disturbing. almost feel bad for the guy.


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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,594
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    And there you have it. Impeachment articles being introduced on Tuesday
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  • this is actually pretty disturbing. almost feel bad for the guy.


    Fuck him. He made his bed, slept on both sides of it while mumbling out of both sides of his mouth in his sleep. Enjoy the rest of your days looking over your shoulder for the monster you unleashed Lindsey Flimsey Flip Flop Faloozy Graham. Hell has a special place for you, if you really believe.
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