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*** DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED FOR A SECOND TIME *** (392 days after the first)

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,741
    2021
    static111 said:
    What would they pardon him from?  Doesn’t a pardon have to be specific?  Or can they say pardoned from all known and unknown crimes committed while in office? That would be stupid. 
    I am certain it will be as vast and far ranging as is humanly possible. Only for federal charges though. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,741
    2021
    i'm aware of all of that. none of that convinces me he will resign. i'd be thrilled if I end up being wrong. I'd love for that to be his legacy. I just don't see it happening. 
    I don't think it happens either, but it is a definite possibility. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 3,684
    SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
    no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it. 
    I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.

    Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
    sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low. 

    many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser. 

    the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail. 
    Yeah, I strongly disagree with this. Huge difference now, with republicans calling for impeachment and a large portion of his cabinet resigning in protest. WH counsel is considering resigning at this point. The walls are actually closing in right now
    Mueller time!
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,741
    2021
    OnWis97 said:
    SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
    no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it. 
    I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.

    Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
    sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low. 

    many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser. 

    the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail. 
    Yeah, I strongly disagree with this. Huge difference now, with republicans calling for impeachment and a large portion of his cabinet resigning in protest. WH counsel is considering resigning at this point. The walls are actually closing in right now
    Mueller time!
    Impeachment...2.0 baby! Woo
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,704
    What a smarmy fuck that Lindsey Flimsey Flip Flop Faloozy Graham is.


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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 793
    I read, possibly here, that Graham should resign from Congress to fulfill his lifetime goal of becoming a full time weathervane.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 18,693
    2023
    graham just left town. got accosted by the angry q mob at the airport too.

    ya hate to see it.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 18,693
    2023
    this is actually pretty disturbing. almost feel bad for the guy.


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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,741
    2021
    And there you have it. Impeachment articles being introduced on Tuesday
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,704
    this is actually pretty disturbing. almost feel bad for the guy.


    Fuck him. He made his bed, slept on both sides of it while mumbling out of both sides of his mouth in his sleep. Enjoy the rest of your days looking over your shoulder for the monster you unleashed Lindsey Flimsey Flip Flop Faloozy Graham. Hell has a special place for you, if you really believe.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 26,089
    this is actually pretty disturbing. almost feel bad for the guy.


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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,521
    Yeah, f Lindsey Graham. 

    He's as much to blame for this as anyone else. 

  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,741
    2021
    "Incitement of Insurrection"
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,741
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    Trial in senate AFTER he leaves office now? Interesting...
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon HeadstoniaPosts: 26,089
    jesus. makes it sound like he's going to be hanged if convicted. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 18,693
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    jesus. makes it sound like he's going to be hanged if convicted. 
    you should see how they dealt with high treason in medieval times. hanging would be cakewalk compared to that.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,741
    2021
    Murkowski calling for him to resign...
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin LouisPosts: 18,693
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    Murkowski calling for him to resign...
    it is a start, but let's be honest. the only 2 women who trump even remotely listens to is hope hicks and ivanka. if mitch said it, it is a different story.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,741
    edited January 8
    2021
    Murkowski calling for him to resign...
    it is a start, but let's be honest. the only 2 women who trump even remotely listens to is hope hicks and ivanka. if mitch said it, it is a different story.
    It is a start. And she'll be a vote for conviction if he doesn't. Hicks is reportedly resigning, again, too. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 21,000
    edited January 10
    Murkowski calling for him to resign...
    it is a start, but let's be honest. the only 2 women who trump even remotely listens to is hope hicks and ivanka. if mitch said it, it is a different story.
    It is a start. And she'll be a vote for conviction if he doesn't. Hicks is reportedly resigning, again, too. 

    THATS really hollow. your first resignation became meaningless when you came back for round 2.....
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 27,704
    Steny Hoyer is pissed! Pissed, I tell you!
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    Al Green speaking after Steny with tears in his eyes and a quavering voice. Unpresidented.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 39,741
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    Anyone still think the walls are not closing in?
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  • static111static111 Posts: 2,533
    Republicans scared to vote in favor in fear of death threats.   I don’t know maybe do the right thing for once.  If they want that unity so bad they can’t just appease t he white supremacists.  If this becomes another round of let’s appease t he white supremacists, we might as well just give them the ducking keys.  
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 5,521
    edited January 13
    static111 said:
    Republicans scared to vote in favor in fear of death threats.   I don’t know maybe do the right thing for once.  If they want that unity so bad they can’t just appease t he white supremacists.  If this becomes another round of let’s appease t he white supremacists, we might as well just give them the ducking keys.  
    Vote in accordance w/ the oath you took or step down. 

    Enough of this bullshit.

  • dignindignin Posts: 8,944
    static111 said:
    Republicans scared to vote in favor in fear of death threats.   I don’t know maybe do the right thing for once.  If they want that unity so bad they can’t just appease t he white supremacists.  If this becomes another round of let’s appease t he white supremacists, we might as well just give them the ducking keys.  
    Vote in accordance w/ the oath you took or step down. 

    Enough of this bullshit.
    Yup. Do your job or resign.
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