2020 Fall North American rumour thread
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            Mannheim Steamroller0
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Miami was given the green light by the governor to go ahead and allow full capacity (65k) for the Dolphin games.Weston1283 said:With NFL stadiums allowing increased capacities weekly, you have to think that around next summer events will become normal again. I think even if the band could play in the spring, the more likely option is Fall of 2021 for any US/Canada shows.
It is going to take one band/artist to lead the way. Someone will book a football stadium with social distancing and 30% capacity. Then someone will play a 40% capacity show and so on. And it'll just be follow the leader until we are back to full capacity. No one wants to be the first one to do it (negative backlash) but everyone will follow once someone leads the way.0 - 
            that's insane...like desantis.This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0
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Great so now there can be 50K people cheering for the opponent.Ray J. T. said:
Miami was given the green light by the governor to go ahead and allow full capacity (65k) for the Dolphin games.Weston1283 said:With NFL stadiums allowing increased capacities weekly, you have to think that around next summer events will become normal again. I think even if the band could play in the spring, the more likely option is Fall of 2021 for any US/Canada shows.
It is going to take one band/artist to lead the way. Someone will book a football stadium with social distancing and 30% capacity. Then someone will play a 40% capacity show and so on. And it'll just be follow the leader until we are back to full capacity. No one wants to be the first one to do it (negative backlash) but everyone will follow once someone leads the way.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230 - 
            
I saw that. I think based on principle however the band will extend beyond the timeline even if they got the green light. I’d bet on next Fall.Ray J. T. said:
Miami was given the green light by the governor to go ahead and allow full capacity (65k) for the Dolphin games.Weston1283 said:With NFL stadiums allowing increased capacities weekly, you have to think that around next summer events will become normal again. I think even if the band could play in the spring, the more likely option is Fall of 2021 for any US/Canada shows.
It is going to take one band/artist to lead the way. Someone will book a football stadium with social distancing and 30% capacity. Then someone will play a 40% capacity show and so on. And it'll just be follow the leader until we are back to full capacity. No one wants to be the first one to do it (negative backlash) but everyone will follow once someone leads the way.2010: Cleveland
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore0 - 
            
Also the Dolphins have said they are sticking with the 20% max based on CDC guidelines.Weston1283 said:
I saw that. I think based on principle however the band will extend beyond the timeline even if they got the green light. I’d bet on next Fall.Ray J. T. said:
Miami was given the green light by the governor to go ahead and allow full capacity (65k) for the Dolphin games.Weston1283 said:With NFL stadiums allowing increased capacities weekly, you have to think that around next summer events will become normal again. I think even if the band could play in the spring, the more likely option is Fall of 2021 for any US/Canada shows.
It is going to take one band/artist to lead the way. Someone will book a football stadium with social distancing and 30% capacity. Then someone will play a 40% capacity show and so on. And it'll just be follow the leader until we are back to full capacity. No one wants to be the first one to do it (negative backlash) but everyone will follow once someone leads the way.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230 - 
            
I read that was going to be the case until 10/25RatherStarved said:
Also the Dolphins have said they are sticking with the 20% max based on CDC guidelines.Weston1283 said:
I saw that. I think based on principle however the band will extend beyond the timeline even if they got the green light. I’d bet on next Fall.Ray J. T. said:
Miami was given the green light by the governor to go ahead and allow full capacity (65k) for the Dolphin games.Weston1283 said:With NFL stadiums allowing increased capacities weekly, you have to think that around next summer events will become normal again. I think even if the band could play in the spring, the more likely option is Fall of 2021 for any US/Canada shows.
It is going to take one band/artist to lead the way. Someone will book a football stadium with social distancing and 30% capacity. Then someone will play a 40% capacity show and so on. And it'll just be follow the leader until we are back to full capacity. No one wants to be the first one to do it (negative backlash) but everyone will follow once someone leads the way.0 - 
            Douglas12373 said:Mannheim Steamroller
Bingo!
I was also really thinking of Trans-Siberian Orchestra, but either is an acceptable answer.Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"0 - 
            ComeToTX said:that's insane...like desantis.
Agreed.Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"0 - 
            Broadway is shut down through next May.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230 - 
            
Man how are these places going to survive?RatherStarved said:Broadway is shut down through next May.Boston '06
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Hartford '10
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Beacon Theater is open for streaming every Friday for the next 8 weeks.RatherStarved said:Broadway is shut down through next May.Twitch.tv/treyanastasio"So much it dont show"0 - 
            2021 Boston Marathon deferred to at least October from April. Does that make Fall 2021 the earliest possible chance for US shows?PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230 - 
            
The marathon postponement is so strange. Yes, it might need to be postponed but April is still months away.RatherStarved said:2021 Boston Marathon deferred to at least October from April. Does that make Fall 2021 the earliest possible chance for US shows?___________________________________________
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people come from all over the world and usually train for weeks or months prior to. that makes sense to me.JimmyV said:
The marathon postponement is so strange. Yes, it might need to be postponed but April is still months away.RatherStarved said:2021 Boston Marathon deferred to at least October from April. Does that make Fall 2021 the earliest possible chance for US shows?Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 - 
            
I would say that is pretty likely.RatherStarved said:2021 Boston Marathon deferred to at least October from April. Does that make Fall 2021 the earliest possible chance for US shows?
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20 - 
            RatherStarved said:2021 Boston Marathon deferred to at least October from April. Does that make Fall 2021 the earliest possible chance for US shows?Yah. It seems like best case scenario is a working vaccinne (or several working vaccines) are proved to work early next year. Then it's going to take a very long time to manufacture all of them.Covid's not going away on it's own. I wouldn't be surprised if next summers Euro tour ends up getting postponed. I think next fall only happens under best case scenario.. it could be 2022
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            If I’m being optimistic then ohana is their next show.This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0
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While that maybe true I do not think that is the only reason they chose the fall to push it too. Hot summer weather is a major concern for these type of races and that would have played a factor as well. I would guess if they knew the summer was going to be ok they still would have gone with this date.RatherStarved said:2021 Boston Marathon deferred to at least October from April. Does that make Fall 2021 the earliest possible chance for US shows?0 - 
            
And even that’s far from certain at this stage.ComeToTX said:If I’m being optimistic then ohana is their next show.To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
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