2020 Fall North American rumour thread

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  • mschostokmschostok Chicago, IL Posts: 858
    Spring 21 seems improbable given the vaccine timetable.  Fall 21 seems feasible if something is approved by end of 20.  Other artists are booking Fall 21 and Winter 22 dates.  As of now there’s Bottlerock Napa Valley with RHCP on May 28, 2021 but I wouldn’t book a flight just yet.
    Right. Spring 2021 just doesn't seem plausible. So unfortunate. Just have to be patient. 
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  • demetrios said:



    PJ VOTES CONCERT SCHEDULE – WEEK OF 9/21/20 PICKED BY THE BAND

    MONDAY SEPTEMBER 21
    12am State College, PA 5/3/03
    2pm E. Troy, WI 10/8/00
    7pm Detroit, MI 10/16/14
    TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 22
    12am W. Palm Beach, FL 4/11/03
    7am St. Paul, MN 6/16/03
    2pm Phoenix, AZ 11/19/13
    WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 23
    12am Detroit, MI 10/16/14
    7am State College, PA 5/3/03
    2pm Greensboro, NC 8/6/00
    THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 24
    12am Phoenix, AZ 11/19/13
    2pm W. Palm Beach, FL 4/11/03
    7pm E. Troy, WI 10/8/00
    FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 25
    12am St. Paul, MN 6/16/03
    7am Greensboro, NC 8/6/00
    2pm State College, PA 5/3/03
    SATURDAY SEPTEMBER 26
    12am E. Troy, WI 10/8/00
    2pm Detroit, MI 10/16/14
    7pm W. Palm Beach, FL 4/11/03
    SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 27
    12am Greensboro, NC 8/6/00
    7am Phoenix, AZ 11/19/13
    2pm St. Paul, MN 6/16/03
    *All Times Eastern





    I think the issue was that I was on SiriusXM.com/pearljamradio. They used to be there, but seemingly not in a while.
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,398
    edited October 2020
    Zod said:

    Yah, you do get the feeling that they took a step back when Chris Cornell passed away.   Maybe it took all or some of them a bit to work through that.   Then when they were ready to go again, they hit the start over button the album.

    .....

    It's a bit a of a bummer we got so few PJ shows over the past however many years, and that Covid hit the brakes right when they were about to start doing a bunch of them.   I am glad the band has (mostly) figured out what works for them.  Hopefully it means we continue to get tours for a while.
    We may have a completely different sounding album if not for CC and the album re-scrap. With BoB and Can’t Deny Me as the big single it probably would have been LB2.

    I’m thankful for the steps they took even if time marched on.
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,765
    edited October 2020
    Now that Europe seems to be all set are we going to get some dates for NA? I bet they are still waiting until a certain date to confirm what most of us already are guessing is no spring shows. Then we will hopefully get the whole fall tour rolled out at once.
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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,810
    I'm honestly surprised they're going all in on Eurodates.   Everything I'm reading says it's going to be at least 6 to 9 months before Vaccines can start rolling out, and then it'll be a good while before enough people have them to do mass gatherings.     I'm still pretty skeptical, and give it 70/30 odds the Eurodates get bumped again.

    Maybe they had less flexibility when it came to Europe and it was more pressing to book in dates?   Maybe they have more flexibility in the US and are trying to hold off as long as possible on announcing in case they have to bump them again?
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 95,212
    Zod said:
    I'm honestly surprised they're going all in on Eurodates.   Everything I'm reading says it's going to be at least 6 to 9 months before Vaccines can start rolling out, and then it'll be a good while before enough people have them to do mass gatherings.     I'm still pretty skeptical, and give it 70/30 odds the Eurodates get bumped again.

    Maybe they had less flexibility when it came to Europe and it was more pressing to book in dates?   Maybe they have more flexibility in the US and are trying to hold off as long as possible on announcing in case they have to bump them again?

    I'm surprised they are adding these dates, knowing it's not gonna happen as there is no "official" cure yet for the COVID19 virus. Cases are rising & many cities / countries are going into Phase 2. Wouldn't it make sense to add dates WHEN the cure is officially been announced?
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,810
    demetrios said:

    I'm surprised they are adding these dates, knowing it's not gonna happen as there is no "official" cure yet for the COVID19 virus. Cases are rising & many cities / countries are going into Phase 2. Wouldn't it make sense to add dates WHEN the cure is officially been announced?
    I think there's other challenges.   How many artists are going to be starving for $$'s or itching to tour as soon as Covid19 is conquered.  Not to mention all the sports teams are going to want to fire back up on all cylinders.  There could be issues of availability if everyone wants to tour at the same time.  I think this is why some musicians are booking venues, so if the problem is solved they've got venues booked and they aren't competing for space.

    It really has me curious what post covid touring is going to look like.  I keep seeing all these bands who haven't played for years wanting to get out there.    Concerts everywhere, and not enough money to buy all the tickets :)

    Maybe we'll get winter tours again.   For the last # of years all the big shows I wanted to see were in the summer.   It's ok if you live somewhere where you can go home after the show, but for those of us that travel, it means getting a hotel.  Hotel's all up and down the west coast are crazy expensive in the summer.  Would love me some cheaper winter tours :)
  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 7,141
    Zod said:
    I think there's other challenges.   How many artists are going to be starving for $$'s or itching to tour as soon as Covid19 is conquered.  Not to mention all the sports teams are going to want to fire back up on all cylinders.  There could be issues of availability if everyone wants to tour at the same time.  I think this is why some musicians are booking venues, so if the problem is solved they've got venues booked and they aren't competing for space.

    It really has me curious what post covid touring is going to look like.  I keep seeing all these bands who haven't played for years wanting to get out there.    Concerts everywhere, and not enough money to buy all the tickets :)

    Maybe we'll get winter tours again.   For the last # of years all the big shows I wanted to see were in the summer.   It's ok if you live somewhere where you can go home after the show, but for those of us that travel, it means getting a hotel.  Hotel's all up and down the west coast are crazy expensive in the summer.  Would love me some cheaper winter tours :)

    NHL, NBA, Disney on Ice, Christmas shows, that one electronic group that always tours over Christmas (you know who I mean), bla bla bla...

    Plus, summer tours let them do outside stuff.
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  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,974
    With NFL stadiums allowing increased capacities weekly, you have to think that around next summer events will become normal again.  I think even if the band could play in the spring, the more likely option is Fall of 2021 for any US/Canada shows.  

    It is going to take one band/artist to lead the way.  Someone will book a football stadium with social distancing and 30% capacity.  Then someone will play a 40% capacity show and so on.  And it'll just be follow the leader until we are back to full capacity.  No one wants to be the first one to do it (negative backlash) but everyone will follow once someone leads the way.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,952

    NHL, NBA, Disney on Ice, Christmas shows, that one electronic group that always tours over Christmas (you know who I mean), bla bla bla...

    Plus, summer tours let them do outside stuff.
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  • Ray J. T.Ray J. T. Posts: 4,076
    With NFL stadiums allowing increased capacities weekly, you have to think that around next summer events will become normal again.  I think even if the band could play in the spring, the more likely option is Fall of 2021 for any US/Canada shows.  

    It is going to take one band/artist to lead the way.  Someone will book a football stadium with social distancing and 30% capacity.  Then someone will play a 40% capacity show and so on.  And it'll just be follow the leader until we are back to full capacity.  No one wants to be the first one to do it (negative backlash) but everyone will follow once someone leads the way.
    Miami was given the green light by the governor to go ahead and allow full capacity (65k) for the Dolphin games. 
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,973
    that's insane...like desantis.
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • Ray J. T. said:
    Miami was given the green light by the governor to go ahead and allow full capacity (65k) for the Dolphin games. 
    Great so now there can be 50K people cheering for the opponent.  
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  • Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,974
    Ray J. T. said:
    Miami was given the green light by the governor to go ahead and allow full capacity (65k) for the Dolphin games. 
    I saw that.  I think based on principle however the band will extend beyond the timeline even if they got the green light.  I’d bet on next Fall.
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  • I saw that.  I think based on principle however the band will extend beyond the timeline even if they got the green light.  I’d bet on next Fall.
    Also the Dolphins have said they are sticking with the 20% max based on CDC guidelines. 
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  • Ray J. T.Ray J. T. Posts: 4,076
    Also the Dolphins have said they are sticking with the 20% max based on CDC guidelines. 
    I read that was going to be the case until 10/25
  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 7,141
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    Bingo!

    I was also really thinking of Trans-Siberian Orchestra, but either is an acceptable answer.
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  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 7,141
    ComeToTX said:
    that's insane...like desantis.

    Agreed.
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  • Broadway is shut down through next May.
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  • DM282158DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 612
    Broadway is shut down through next May.
    Man how are these places going to survive?
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  • release00release00 Posts: 347
    Broadway is shut down through next May.
    Beacon Theater is open for streaming every Friday for the next 8 weeks. 

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  • 2021 Boston Marathon deferred to at least October from April.  Does that make Fall 2021 the earliest possible chance for US shows?
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,388
    2021 Boston Marathon deferred to at least October from April.  Does that make Fall 2021 the earliest possible chance for US shows?
    The marathon postponement is so strange. Yes, it might need to be postponed but April is still months away. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,952
    JimmyV said:
    The marathon postponement is so strange. Yes, it might need to be postponed but April is still months away. 
    people come from all over the world and usually train for weeks or months prior to. that makes sense to me. 
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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,581
    2021 Boston Marathon deferred to at least October from April.  Does that make Fall 2021 the earliest possible chance for US shows?
    I would say that is pretty likely.

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  • ZodZod Posts: 10,810
    2021 Boston Marathon deferred to at least October from April.  Does that make Fall 2021 the earliest possible chance for US shows?
    Yah.  It seems like best case scenario is a working vaccinne (or several working vaccines) are proved to work early next year.   Then it's going to take a very long time to manufacture all of them.

    Covid's not going away on it's own.    I wouldn't be surprised if next summers Euro tour ends up getting postponed.  I think next fall only happens under best case scenario.. it could be 2022 :(
  • ComeToTXComeToTX Austin Posts: 7,973
    If I’m being optimistic then ohana is their next show. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,765
    2021 Boston Marathon deferred to at least October from April.  Does that make Fall 2021 the earliest possible chance for US shows?
    While that maybe true I do not think that is the only reason they chose the fall to push it too. Hot summer weather is a major concern for these type of races and that would have played a factor as well. I would guess if they knew the summer was going to be ok they still would have gone with this date. 
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,214
    ComeToTX said:
    If I’m being optimistic then ohana is their next show. 
    And even that’s far from certain at this stage.
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