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  • wndowpayne
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    mrussel1 said:
    wndowpayne said:
    Early voting looks to favor Biden..most lines show people wearing masks...Masks=Biden
    VIRGINIA IS BLUE....

    Was close in 16 though..50% to 45%
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
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    wndowpayne said:
    mrussel1 said:
    wndowpayne said:
    Early voting looks to favor Biden..most lines show people wearing masks...Masks=Biden
    VIRGINIA IS BLUE....

    Was close in 16 though..50% to 45%
    Been a decade since GOP won a statewide office. 
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
    Biden
    I wonder whether RBG's death will impact the chest-thumping hard-left that won't vote for a Democrat, any more.  I would guess most are pro-choice.  If this somehow is in question by election day, maybe someone of them, when faced with it in real-time, will buy into "the Supreme Court, if nothing else."
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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,208
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    OnWis97 said:
    I wonder whether RBG's death will impact the chest-thumping hard-left that won't vote for a Democrat, any more.  I would guess most are pro-choice.  If this somehow is in question by election day, maybe someone of them, when faced with it in real-time, will buy into "the Supreme Court, if nothing else."
    Except the spot will be filled before Biden gets elected and if Biden gets elected the corrupt court will give the election to trump after Barr litigates
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  • tbergs
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    Biden
    I was worried about this scenario a few weeks ago and now RBG is gone. Next up, October surprise of Biden having a heart attack. Next year will be worse when Roe v. Wade is over turned and Obama care is struck down with no replacement. At least PJ will still have something to be angry about as the world literally burns.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Biden
    tbergs said:
    I was worried about this scenario a few weeks ago and now RBG is gone. Next up, October surprise of Biden having a heart attack. Next year will be worse when Roe v. Wade is over turned and Obama care is struck down with no replacement. At least PJ will still have something to be angry about as the world literally burns.
    not the world. just the US....I mean Gilead. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mace1229 said:
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
    I don't understand the "softball" stuff.  Of course they aren't going to ask Biden about caging children, hiding COVID19 from the public, etc., because he hasn't done any of that.
    Well they very well could have asked him about caged children. Isn't it common knowledge at this point that some of those photos that circulated about how bad conditions were with kids in cages were actually taken during Obama's term? So yes, that could have been a fair question to ask and allow him to defend or explain. Trump did have a stricter policy that lead to more children being detained, I'm not saying he didn't, but sure since it was such a big issue it would be a fair question. No reason not to ask him about other big topics, like him being against the China travel ban in January, which he has since denied being against. So if they were being treated equally the moderator would have quotes ready to interrupt and counter his answer with.
    I'm not saying that's how it should have been handled. I actually don't like that, let the person finish then have a moment for a rebuttal. I was just pointing out the differences I saw based on brief highlights of the 2 and even added I'm not sure if those highlights are a fair representation of the evenings.
    Here's what Biden tweeted..  Tell me which part you disagree with.

    A wall will not stop the coronavirus.

    Banning all travel from Europe — or any other part of the world — will not stop it.

    This disease could impact every nation and any person on the planet — and we need a plan to combat it.

    — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden)March 13, 2020


    And from April 3rd.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/politics/joe-biden-trump-china-coronavirus/index.html  Joe Biden's campaign said Friday the former vice president supports President Donald Trump's January 31 decision to ban foreign nationals who had been in China within the previous 14 days from entering the United States.

    "Joe Biden supports travel bans that are guided by medical experts, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy," Kate Bedingfeld, Biden's deputy campaign manager, told CNN. "Science supported this ban, therefore he did too."

    So the premise of your question would be wrong to ask him.  This is why real journalists that do actual research are best suited to ask questions. 

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Some people still think it was a “China ban?” Good god.
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  • mrussel1
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mace1229 said:
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
    I don't understand the "softball" stuff.  Of course they aren't going to ask Biden about caging children, hiding COVID19 from the public, etc., because he hasn't done any of that.
    Well they very well could have asked him about caged children. Isn't it common knowledge at this point that some of those photos that circulated about how bad conditions were with kids in cages were actually taken during Obama's term? So yes, that could have been a fair question to ask and allow him to defend or explain. Trump did have a stricter policy that lead to more children being detained, I'm not saying he didn't, but sure since it was such a big issue it would be a fair question. No reason not to ask him about other big topics, like him being against the China travel ban in January, which he has since denied being against. So if they were being treated equally the moderator would have quotes ready to interrupt and counter his answer with.
    I'm not saying that's how it should have been handled. I actually don't like that, let the person finish then have a moment for a rebuttal. I was just pointing out the differences I saw based on brief highlights of the 2 and even added I'm not sure if those highlights are a fair representation of the evenings.
    Here's what Biden tweeted..  Tell me which part you disagree with.

    A wall will not stop the coronavirus.

    Banning all travel from Europe — or any other part of the world — will not stop it.

    This disease could impact every nation and any person on the planet — and we need a plan to combat it.

    — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden)March 13, 2020


    And from April 3rd.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/politics/joe-biden-trump-china-coronavirus/index.html  Joe Biden's campaign said Friday the former vice president supports President Donald Trump's January 31 decision to ban foreign nationals who had been in China within the previous 14 days from entering the United States.

    "Joe Biden supports travel bans that are guided by medical experts, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy," Kate Bedingfeld, Biden's deputy campaign manager, told CNN. "Science supported this ban, therefore he did too."

    So the premise of your question would be wrong to ask him.  This is why real journalists that do actual research are best suited to ask questions. 

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  • The Juggler
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  • mrussel1
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    I read an interesting reminder that the Kav hearing was a month before the mid terms.  Either it didn't stop blue or it helped.  We sort of assume this is good for Trump.  Maybe not, on net. 
  • mickeyrat
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    Biden
    seen my first biden campaign commercial today. was good.  part attack, part answering attacks , part agenda. well done.

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  • tbergs
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    The only way Trump would hesitate on nominating and approving a new justice is if he lost ground in the battleground states he's hoping to win. Places like Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania need to send the message that he loses votes by doing this, but I don't think there's anyway to make that type of data materialize. Even though the Reuters poll made it clear where most people stand, they probably still would vote for him.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    Biden
    I drove by the county library by my house that is an early voting location before the noon hour today. The line was wrapped half way around the building. Guessing at least a 2 hour await for the last person in that line.
  • mrussel1
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    Biden
    jerparker20 said:
    I drove by the county library by my house that is an early voting location before the noon hour today. The line was wrapped half way around the building. Guessing at least a 2 hour await for the last person in that line.
    More evidence of how few people are undecided.  I don't know that the SCOTUS issue moves the needle much.  It didn't in 18.
  • The Juggler
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    Biden
    I think it helped the Republicans in '18 but not in the swing states that are in play this year. Like didn't it cost McCaskill her seat over it?

    This year, I can see it motivating dems more since it's the second time in four years they've been fucked over. 
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  • Lerxst1992
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    mrussel1 said:
    jerparker20 said:
    I drove by the county library by my house that is an early voting location before the noon hour today. The line was wrapped half way around the building. Guessing at least a 2 hour await for the last person in that line.
    More evidence of how few people are undecided.  I don't know that the SCOTUS issue moves the needle much.  It didn't in 18.

    There was an empty seat in 2016 and the “progressive wing” of the party was not enthusiastic about voting then and there was an undervote in many states . It appears to clearly have not motivated liberals as much as republicans, and now it’s too late.

    And the sad truth is that’s when the damage was done. Trump gets RBGs seat filled as a result of all the 2016 Hilary apathy unless the Dems can pull off an unlikely Hail Mary and come up a way to clog up the senate for over 3 months. If not, the only move for them is to pack the court, which takes guts and ya know where the Dems are in that category.


  • mickeyrat
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    Biden
    2nd Biden commercial. addressing the violence and rioting. straight up calls trump weak.

    showed a differentiation between the two of them.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
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    mickeyrat said:
    2nd Biden commercial. addressing the violence and rioting. straight up calls trump weak.

    showed a differentiation between the two of them.

    I like the commercials I've seen. He goes after Trump but isn't only saying "and I'm not him."  Of course, he sounds super old but as long as he can keep being out there and it doesn't get worse, I don't think it'll hurt him.
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  • mickeyrat
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    OnWis97 said
    mickeyrat said:
    2nd Biden commercial. addressing the violence and rioting. straight up calls trump weak.

    showed a differentiation between the two of them.

    I like the commercials I've seen. He goes after Trump but isn't only saying "and I'm not him."  Of course, he sounds super old but as long as he can keep being out there and it doesn't get worse, I don't think it'll hurt him.

    have now seen a 3rd around the pandemic
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