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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    Biden
    It is ok to discriminate on age when the person is 32 or 34, but not 74 or 97?
    That's in the constitution.  Put up an amendment to lower,  I would support it.
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,292
    Biden
    Well, agree to disagree.  Not something I have only thought about a few times.  I've yet to hear an argument against it that changes how I feel.
    Seen way too many people go from high functioning to not in a short period of time once into 70s.  
    This is not the job to let people work beyond their capabilities.  Way too important and way too demanding.

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  • I'm sitting this one out
    So, should people not born in the US be able to be president? Let's say Arnold or someone coming here as a refugee as a kid etc?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    Biden
    So, should people not born in the US be able to be president? Let's say Arnold or someone coming here as a refugee as a kid etc?
    That's also a constitutional issue.  I might be supportive so long as there was a minimum amount of time as a citizen and there was no dual citizenship. 
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,079
    Biden
    I would vote for Neil Young for president.  He's old and has dual citizenship!  :smiley:
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,535
    edited November 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    brianlux said:
    I would vote for Neil Young for president.  He's old and has dual citizenship!  :smiley:
    Neil Young would be bored after 3 months, leave a note with the press secretary "eat a peach" and go record another album with a sound no one could see coming.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    Biden
    brianlux said:
    I would vote for Neil Young for president.  He's old and has dual citizenship!  :smiley:
    Neil Young would be bored after 3 months, leave a note with the press secretary "eat a peach" and go record another album with a sound no one could see coming.
    That's about right
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,079
    Biden
    I'm sure Neil has no such ambitions. 
    Probably not Arnold either.
    So let's go with Bruce Willis.  Born in Germany, 65 years old.  Capable of destroying all enemies with his bare hands.

    There you go.  Bruce Willis for President, 2024.

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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    I’d be okay with Ilhan  Omar 2024
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • I'm sitting this one out
    brianlux said:
    Probably not Arnold either.



    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,292
    Biden
    Arnold sucked as Governor.  I voted for him once but he didn't get jack done.
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  • I'm sitting this one out
    Arnold sucked as Governor.  I voted for him once but he didn't get jack done.
    He at least believes in climate change and that something needs to be done to stop it, and he helped stop Judgment Day.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,600
    I don't think being a leader of a country is a very good gig.   Generally the pay is quite a bit lower than if you were a CEO or CFO of medium to large company (or publicly traded company).

    The job lacks longevity.   You have to run for election every handful of years, so your under constant thread of being terminated.   Everyone blames you for everything, you can't make people happy, you probably won't even be able to get 50% of people to be happy.

    Anything stupid you've done in your life will most likely see the light of day, then get dragged out publicly.

    If your an American president there's only so much you can do without the support of Congress.   Congress is in charge of the purse, and also has the power to override a veto.  A president can't introduce law, congress does.  If there's big things you want to do you need to get it passed through two dysfunctional arms of the US government.  Making it really hard to get much done.

    I don't think famous people (or most of them) would want to be president.   It's like being famous, but everyone blames you for everything bad :)
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,525
    Biden
    Image may contain text that says C You have died of hyPo thermia walking ing back to your at from a trump rally
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Arnold sucked as Governor.  I voted for him once but he didn't get jack done.
    He at least believes in climate change and that something needs to be done to stop it, and he helped stop Judgment Day.


    He also knocked up his house keeper while married. Nice guy if I remember the Tara Reade allegations outrage of a few months ago.
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  • I'm sitting this one out
    Arnold sucked as Governor.  I voted for him once but he didn't get jack done.
    He at least believes in climate change and that something needs to be done to stop it, and he helped stop Judgment Day.


    He also knocked up his house keeper while married. Nice guy if I remember the Tara Reade allegations outrage of a few months ago.
    Did you miss, that I said he stopped Judgment Day? 3 billion lives ended. August 29 1997. The survivors faced the war with the machines.

    The dude in the pic helped stop it.

    The girl in the pic is also trying to save us from the Climate Change Judgment Day. Let her be president of the USA.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Arnold sucked as Governor.  I voted for him once but he didn't get jack done.
    He at least believes in climate change and that something needs to be done to stop it, and he helped stop Judgment Day.


    He also knocked up his house keeper while married. Nice guy if I remember the Tara Reade allegations outrage of a few months ago.
    Did you miss, that I said he stopped Judgment Day? 3 billion lives ended. August 29 1997. The survivors faced the war with the machines.

    The dude in the pic helped stop it.

    The girl in the pic is also trying to save us from the Climate Change Judgment Day. Let her be president of the USA.
    Judgement Day is November 3, 2020.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,375
    mrussel1 said:
    So we're at the end now.  How do you guys grade Biden and his campaign? I give him strong grades.  He was good in both debates,  no major gaffes,  stayed focused on a positive message,  didn't get into the mud. The commercials I get here in Virginia are excellent,  particularly one i saw the other night with all the generals supporting him.  

    I feel like the campaign did its job.  The money was raised,  I was contacted by Biden,  Warner,  and Spanberger multiple times.  Now it's up to the people. 
    I don’t think it matters. This election is about Trump or no Trump. Biden could have been replaced by a brick wall and the results would probably be the same.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,684
    Biden
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    Joe Blundo | So to Speak: A guide to chilling out this Election Day

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    So much stress, so much tension, so much riding on the outcome. 

    How are we going to get through Election Day on Tuesday without wallowing in anxiety? What we need is a Helpful Guide to Managing Electoral Anxiety. 

    Until someone writes a helpful one, I’ll offer my own version. Here are suggested relaxation techniques. (And if you haven’t voted yet, please do before relaxing.) 

    Nature 

    Immerse yourself in the natural world. 

    Find a meadow, lie on your back and stare up at the clouds, as you did when you were a child. See the shapes as they drift by. Look, there’s a sheep. How peaceful, how soothing, how emblematic of voters blindly following the wrong candidate.  

    If you feel an urge to spit at the cloud, remember that you’re lying on your back. It will end badly. 

    Get up and go look at a tree to take your mind off the cloud. When the tree brings to mind wooden-headed partisans, move on to something else. Repeat until you’ve exhausted the entire natural world and yourself. 

    Mindfulness 

    Sit comfortably, dispel all fears about the future and focus on the now.  

    Well, maybe not this now. I mean who wants to dwell on stress-soaked Nov. 3, 2020?  

    So pick a different now. Let’s say Nov. 3, 2120, when whatever happens today will be but a footnote in history. If we’re lucky.  

    If we’re unlucky, it could be more than a footnote. It could be entire books, plus many movies, more than a few doctoral dissertations, some recurring historical re-enactments and at least a few solemn services of remembrance. 

    You know what? Never mind the mindfulness. 

    Movement 

    Perhaps a gentle session of yoga will relax you.  

    No? You need more strenuous activity to dispel the tension in your body? Try running, then. Still too laid-back? Pole-vaulting. More, you say? Kickboxing. Still not enough? Bull-riding.  

    Need even more? Pole-vault onto the back of a bull and ride it to kickboxing practice while doing yoga poses. It will either take your mind off the election or kill you. Either way, you're free of electoral stress. 

    Breathing 

    Yes, it can seem a little strange to focus on breathing at a time when there is a deadly respiratory virus in the air and you’re inhaling through a homemade mask made from three layers of discarded T-shirt. But try it anyway.  

    Take a long, deep breath and hold it, as you’ve been doing all day anyway while monitoring exit-poll results. Then release it, imagining your exhaled carbon dioxide drifting into the atmosphere where it mixes with all the other heat-trapping carbon that threatens to ...   

    Ah, forget it. Just put your breathing on autopilot and go watch cable news. You know you want to. 

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  • Biden
    static111 said:
    I’d be okay with Ilhan  Omar 2024
    So would the GOP. 
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    static111 said:
    I’d be okay with Ilhan  Omar 2024
    So would the GOP. 
    At some point we have to stop fearing the GOP and just run a positive message and control the narrative.  Take the ball right out of their court. They only have power because for whatever reason they have been given the ability to control the discourse.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    Biden
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    I’d be okay with Ilhan  Omar 2024
    So would the GOP. 
    At some point we have to stop fearing the GOP and just run a positive message and control the narrative.  Take the ball right out of their court. They only have power because for whatever reason they have been given the ability to control the discourse.
    It's a little early to say she's a candidate and would be a good leader for the whole country.  
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,079
    Biden
    Zod said:
    I don't think being a leader of a country is a very good gig.   Generally the pay is quite a bit lower than if you were a CEO or CFO of medium to large company (or publicly traded company).

    The job lacks longevity.   You have to run for election every handful of years, so your under constant thread of being terminated.   Everyone blames you for everything, you can't make people happy, you probably won't even be able to get 50% of people to be happy.

    Anything stupid you've done in your life will most likely see the light of day, then get dragged out publicly.

    If your an American president there's only so much you can do without the support of Congress.   Congress is in charge of the purse, and also has the power to override a veto.  A president can't introduce law, congress does.  If there's big things you want to do you need to get it passed through two dysfunctional arms of the US government.  Making it really hard to get much done.

    I don't think famous people (or most of them) would want to be president.   It's like being famous, but everyone blames you for everything bad :)

    I honestly don't think there should be a leader of a country.  How can one person lead something as big and complex as a country? 

    I might be persuaded to retain the three branches of government in the U.S., but I would want the president to be someone required to have good moral character, the ability to speak well, and be someone who represents the best of what we are, but not someone with a lot of power.  Big decisions that affect the country or even the whole world should not be made by one individual.  Even just the notion of that is ridiculous.

    I would also make the executive branch a committee composed- as Lincoln's cabinet was- of people of differing outlooks who are required and willing to work together to come up with logical, doable and fair solutions to national issues.  One of the jobs of this committee of mixed members would be to interview potential presidential candidates and then select that president based on who it is that most fulfills the characteristics I've pointed out above. 
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  • Biden
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    I’d be okay with Ilhan  Omar 2024
    So would the GOP. 
    At some point we have to stop fearing the GOP and just run a positive message and control the narrative.  Take the ball right out of their court. They only have power because for whatever reason they have been given the ability to control the discourse.
    What I’m trying to say is she’d be a poor candidate for the democrats. Not that she’d make it through the primary in 2024, but hypothetically. 
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    I’d be okay with Ilhan  Omar 2024
    So would the GOP. 
    At some point we have to stop fearing the GOP and just run a positive message and control the narrative.  Take the ball right out of their court. They only have power because for whatever reason they have been given the ability to control the discourse.
    It's a little early to say she's a candidate and would be a good leader for the whole country.  
    I believe the original topic was American citizens not born in the US.  I’m just saying I would support an amendment to allow someone like Ilhan to run.  And further just illustrating how crazy it is to continually dance to the tune set by the GOP.  Let’s strike our own tune
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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    Biden
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    I’d be okay with Ilhan  Omar 2024
    So would the GOP. 
    At some point we have to stop fearing the GOP and just run a positive message and control the narrative.  Take the ball right out of their court. They only have power because for whatever reason they have been given the ability to control the discourse.
    What I’m trying to say is she’d be a poor candidate for the democrats. Not that she’d make it through the primary in 2024, but hypothetically. 
    I know same as I was hypothetically saying that I would support non US born citizens hypothetically running for preZ
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    Biden
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    I’d be okay with Ilhan  Omar 2024
    So would the GOP. 
    At some point we have to stop fearing the GOP and just run a positive message and control the narrative.  Take the ball right out of their court. They only have power because for whatever reason they have been given the ability to control the discourse.
    It's a little early to say she's a candidate and would be a good leader for the whole country.  
    I believe the original topic was American citizens not born in the US.  I’m just saying I would support an amendment to allow someone like Ilhan to run.  And further just illustrating how crazy it is to continually dance to the tune set by the GOP.  Let’s strike our own tune
    I see.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,685
    Biden
    brianlux said:
    Zod said:
    I don't think being a leader of a country is a very good gig.   Generally the pay is quite a bit lower than if you were a CEO or CFO of medium to large company (or publicly traded company).

    The job lacks longevity.   You have to run for election every handful of years, so your under constant thread of being terminated.   Everyone blames you for everything, you can't make people happy, you probably won't even be able to get 50% of people to be happy.

    Anything stupid you've done in your life will most likely see the light of day, then get dragged out publicly.

    If your an American president there's only so much you can do without the support of Congress.   Congress is in charge of the purse, and also has the power to override a veto.  A president can't introduce law, congress does.  If there's big things you want to do you need to get it passed through two dysfunctional arms of the US government.  Making it really hard to get much done.

    I don't think famous people (or most of them) would want to be president.   It's like being famous, but everyone blames you for everything bad :)

    I honestly don't think there should be a leader of a country.  How can one person lead something as big and complex as a country? 

    I might be persuaded to retain the three branches of government in the U.S., but I would want the president to be someone required to have good moral character, the ability to speak well, and be someone who represents the best of what we are, but not someone with a lot of power.  Big decisions that affect the country or even the whole world should not be made by one individual.  Even just the notion of that is ridiculous.

    I would also make the executive branch a committee composed- as Lincoln's cabinet was- of people of differing outlooks who are required and willing to work together to come up with logical, doable and fair solutions to national issues.  One of the jobs of this committee of mixed members would be to interview potential presidential candidates and then select that president based on who it is that most fulfills the characteristics I've pointed out above. 

  • Biden
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    static111 said:
    I’d be okay with Ilhan  Omar 2024
    So would the GOP. 
    At some point we have to stop fearing the GOP and just run a positive message and control the narrative.  Take the ball right out of their court. They only have power because for whatever reason they have been given the ability to control the discourse.
    What I’m trying to say is she’d be a poor candidate for the democrats. Not that she’d make it through the primary in 2024, but hypothetically. 
    I know same as I was hypothetically saying that I would support non US born citizens hypothetically running for preZ
    Oh yeah that’s right...she wouldn’t even be eligible. 
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,149
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So we're at the end now.  How do you guys grade Biden and his campaign? I give him strong grades.  He was good in both debates,  no major gaffes,  stayed focused on a positive message,  didn't get into the mud. The commercials I get here in Virginia are excellent,  particularly one i saw the other night with all the generals supporting him.  

    I feel like the campaign did its job.  The money was raised,  I was contacted by Biden,  Warner,  and Spanberger multiple times.  Now it's up to the people. 
    I don’t think it matters. This election is about Trump or no Trump. Biden could have been replaced by a brick wall and the results would probably be the same.
    To an extent, it is a referendum on Trump, but I still think Obama would beat Trump and Gore would not. I’d say the campaign is a B.  He did a good job laying out plans, but I honestly think he should have gotten in the mud more and brought up more of Trump’s mobbed-up past and his family’s profiteering.
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