The coronavirus

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 

It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 

i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 

The immune system is complex and multifaceted. It doesn’t generate a forcefield that prevents viral particles from approaching you; instead, it involves a number of different processes to deal with the virus when it’s in the body, both before and after it enters the cells. I would think we would all agree that if the immune response generated is robust enough that the individual doesn’t actually become ill, then the immunity is effective. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

and I appreciate your confirmation that the body does not, in fact, generate a force field. I was under the incorrect assumption this entire time. 

mace1229 said:

Just to confuse a lot of people, I wish Pete Twonshend and Roger Daltrey would fund a vaccine. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 

It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 

i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 

The immune system is complex and multifaceted. It doesn’t generate a forcefield that prevents viral particles from approaching you; instead, it involves a number of different processes to deal with the virus when it’s in the body, both before and after it enters the cells. I would think we would all agree that if the immune response generated is robust enough that the individual doesn’t actually become ill, then the immunity is effective. 

of course. but you can still spread the virus even if you are asymptomatic, right?

HughFreakingDillon said:

tbergs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

and I appreciate your confirmation that the body does not, in fact, generate a force field. I was under the incorrect assumption this entire time. 

You should reach out to Yoda. He can probably help you find the force within you.

I was wondering why it hurt when that bus hit me. 

cincybearcat said:

josevolution said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

65% herd immunity = 2 million dead Americans. Yea, lets go for it.

Yep that’s what this administration is pushing so to get to 100% how many millions of dead Americans lol is this country really ok with this? I don’t care what party you stand with but if this country is ok with this I need to move out of it fuck the greatest country in the world! 

But it's just the old people and people with other health issues.  So like what ..... 90% of the population at risk in the USA???? 

Ok, that's not a real number, just a guess.

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 

It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 

i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 

The immune system is complex and multifaceted. It doesn’t generate a forcefield that prevents viral particles from approaching you; instead, it involves a number of different processes to deal with the virus when it’s in the body, both before and after it enters the cells. I would think we would all agree that if the immune response generated is robust enough that the individual doesn’t actually become ill, then the immunity is effective. 

of course. but you can still spread the virus even if you are asymptomatic, right?

You’re still contagious if you’re asymptomatic with what we’ll call a “regular” infection. Not sure if we know yet if you are contagious with an asymptomatic reinfection. The viral load might be too low to be contagious. The research hasn’t been done yet, but I would not be surprised if the viral load was much lower. There might be very little replication. 

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

and herd immunity is irrelevant if you can be reinfected. the jury is still out on that one, so suggesting herd immunity at this stage is utter lunacy. 

It’s not irrelevant, and the two are separate concepts. The few documented cases of reinfection at this point suggest that the reinfections are much less symptomatic or asymptomatic, so quite possibly not much to worry about with reinfection. 

i'm aware of that, but you don't become immune if you can be reinfected. so i don't see how those concepts are separate. 

The immune system is complex and multifaceted. It doesn’t generate a forcefield that prevents viral particles from approaching you; instead, it involves a number of different processes to deal with the virus when it’s in the body, both before and after it enters the cells. I would think we would all agree that if the immune response generated is robust enough that the individual doesn’t actually become ill, then the immunity is effective. 

of course. but you can still spread the virus even if you are asymptomatic, right?

You’re still contagious if you’re asymptomatic with what we’ll call a “regular” infection. Not sure if we know yet if you are contagious with an asymptomatic reinfection. The viral load might be too low to be contagious. The research hasn’t been done yet, but I would not be surprised if the viral load was much lower. There might be very little replication. 

interesting. i thought we did actually know people who are asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic were in face contagious. that would be great news if that what you are saying is/comes to be true. 

That’s not what I’m saying. 

We don’t know if people with asymptomatic reinfection can infect others. We do know that people with an asymptomatic initial infection can. They are different situations.