Canadian Politics Redux

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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Sadly Trudeau will never be ready.  But even sadder is that none of the major  party leaders are Ready either.  We have not had a real competent PM since Jean Chrétien...


    Give Peas A Chance…
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,989
    I’m trying to work myself into a headspace where Trudeau’s attendance at Friday’s protest as a genuine act of remorse and contrition on his part. It’s taken quite a bit of mental gymnastics to get there, since with Hussen at his side he wasn’t there as a citizen but as a representative of the federal government. And I don’t begrudge him his security detail one bit.

    Unfortunately it was all undone when I saw he’s taken the entire weekend as personal time (I’m not sure I actually believe he’s in Ottawa). There was an anniversary of a global event yesterday that my Prime Minister chose not to commemorate. I realize it wasn’t one of the “big” anniversaries (76 years) of D-day but it’s still an important day to mark.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 614
    it it was a total photo op
    a lot of talk, no action 
    just like his dealings with the indigenous peoples (throws a lot of money around but nothing gets better)

    I agree, more should have been said about D-Day

    My disdain for him grows, ah but the others
    i hope somebody steps up in the next election 
    we need somebody that is personable and humane and leads with actions and not cliches 
    I think I am dreaming lol

    1996: Toronto
    2003: St. Paul
    2005: Thunder Bay
    2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
    2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010: Boston
    2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
    2012: Missoula
    2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
    2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
    2022: Hamilton, Toronto 
    2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
    2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,989
    erebus said:
    it it was a total photo op
    a lot of talk, no action 
    just like his dealings with the indigenous peoples (throws a lot of money around but nothing gets better)

    I agree, more should have been said about D-Day

    My disdain for him grows, ah but the others
    i hope somebody steps up in the next election 
    we need somebody that is personable and humane and leads with actions and not cliches 
    I think I am dreaming lol

    I’ve already written the caption for when the image is used in the next election:  “PM Trudeau and Minister Hussen take a knee in solidarity with anti-racism protesters at a rally on Parliament Hill.”

    At least he can’t lecture us anymore about social distancing. Oh wait, that’s something he NEEDS to lecture us on and lead by example. Little wonder my sister (a big Trudeau fan) think it’s ok to associate with other households and let her boys swim in their neighbours’ pool.

     I’m honestly fearful for the covid numbers over the coming weeks. It actually occurred to me that the images of the protests could be even more powerful if they took up enough space to properly distance.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 614
    Maybe term limits for party leaders would help keep things fresh?
    2 and done like the U.S
    1996: Toronto
    2003: St. Paul
    2005: Thunder Bay
    2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
    2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010: Boston
    2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
    2012: Missoula
    2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
    2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
    2022: Hamilton, Toronto 
    2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
    2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 614
    Technically is he protesting against himself?

    he has the power to introduce change through legislation 
    again, an easy photo op to kneel, a lot more work to bring about real change

    1996: Toronto
    2003: St. Paul
    2005: Thunder Bay
    2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
    2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010: Boston
    2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
    2012: Missoula
    2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
    2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
    2022: Hamilton, Toronto 
    2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
    2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,989
    erebus said:
    Maybe term limits for party leaders would help keep things fresh?
    2 and done like the U.S
    I actually like our system in that regard, lol. It allows someone who’s doing a good job to continue doing so. It does allow for people to continue being elected who shouldn’t be, but the responsibility for that falls to the people in that riding (there may be no better options).

    If anything I might look at ways for an incoming government to be limited in undoing decisions and policies of the previous government (no idea how it might work practically) so we avoid endless resets. Unfortunately my best example is not ours, it’s Trump working to undo most of Obama’s policies.

     I suppose I’m in the minority in thinking we have a good and reasonable form of representative democracy, despite it’s sometimes skewed results.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 614
    I still think rep by pop, or some other weighted voting system would give us a more balanced government rather than the current system
    1996: Toronto
    2003: St. Paul
    2005: Thunder Bay
    2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
    2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010: Boston
    2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
    2012: Missoula
    2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
    2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
    2022: Hamilton, Toronto 
    2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
    2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,989
    Turns out I was too quick to criticize Trudeau about D-day and Armed Forces Day. He did go to the trouble of posting statements for each on the PM’s website, during his personal time no less.

    Also sad to see Toronto’s Police Chief Mark Saunders is retiring. He’s been a good and reasonable chief over the last few years.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,989
    edited July 2020
    I have to say I was not expecting this, but was pleased to receive this attachment to an email from my MP, John McKay.  File it under giving credit when it's due, lol.  The only edit I made was to remove my email address, for some reason copy and paste didn't include his signature.

    June 9, 2020
     
    Dear Mr. B:
     
    Thank you for writing to me.
     
    Thank you for your civic engagement and your concern for the current sub-optimal functioning of Parliament. I agree with your concerns and have said so publicly in a recently published article in the Hill Times newspaper. You can read my remarks here: https://bit.ly/3dwsbkE 
     
    I would note however, that the Conservatives won’t even agree to reasonable measures to reopen Parliament such as electronic voting which would help keep everyone safe. Current voting procedures are antiquated and often abused for political posturing. Many times, votes are frivolous procedural issues that interrupt other important business like Parliamentary committees, which are disrespectful to Canadians presenting before Parliament. 
     
    I have and will continue to advocate for the resumption of Parliament’s functions, particularly Parliamentary committees to scrutinize the unprecedented level of government spending. 
     
    Thank you again for sharing your views with me. I will communicate them to my colleagues. 
     
    Sincerely,
     
    Edited to remove my name, I’m usually smarter than that, lol.
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    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,989
    I find this more than a bit troubling but not at all surprising. I agree with much of what Lucki was saying before Blair chose to intervene. For a government that claims the rule of law and independence of law enforcement the Liberals seem quite eager to interfere. All week we’ve had government officials up to the Prime Minister making statements about cases that are still under investigation (but refuse to comment on their colleague’s arrest in April). Utterly inappropriate is what I’d call Blair’s intervention.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/public-safety-minister-broached-systemic-racism-with-rcmp-head-before-course-reversal-1.5611339
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,989
    edited June 2020
    Edited to delete because I don’t know what I was doing or aiming for with the post. It was in poor taste and I apologize for that.
    Post edited by DarthMaeglin on
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,989
    Starting today I’ll be sending daily messages to the PM demanding Parliament be reopened, and I urge anyone of like mind join in.

    I’ll understand if some are hesitant as one is required to provide their name and address. Guessing my name’s on a list for a re-education camp when those are enacted (or will they just send me back to public school at 46, lol?).
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,989
    Today is likely to be the most expensive in the Canadian government’s history (and that’s no hyperbole). With a whole 4 hours given to debate (said with full sarcasm).

    Guess I’ll be watching cpac today, lol.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • erebus
    erebus Posts: 614
    edited June 2020
    is this Conservative leadership debate going to be televised tonight?
    Would like to see what these aspiring leaders have

    update, looks like French debate tonight, English tomorrow. Can be live streamed, not sure if on news networks 

    Post edited by erebus on
    1996: Toronto
    2003: St. Paul
    2005: Thunder Bay
    2008: West Palm Beach, Tampa
    2009: Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010: Boston
    2011: Toronto I, Toronto II, Winnipeg
    2012: Missoula
    2013: London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014: St. Paul, Milwaukee
    2016: Quebec City, Ottawa, Toronto I, Toronto II
    2022: Hamilton, Toronto 
    2023: St. Paul I, St. Paul II
    2024: Vancouver I, Vancouver II
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Turns out I was too quick to criticize Trudeau about D-day and Armed Forces Day. He did go to the trouble of posting statements for each on the PM’s website, during his personal time no less.

    Also sad to see Toronto’s Police Chief Mark Saunders is retiring. He’s been a good and reasonable chief over the last few years.
    You mean trudope wants to spend more money...how much was spent trying to secure that UN seat at that useless bureaucracy???  All the folks with young kids will see their kids and future generations paying for this in a reduction of services particularly health and education...we will be getting closer and closer to a US style healthcare...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,989
    Turns out I was too quick to criticize Trudeau about D-day and Armed Forces Day. He did go to the trouble of posting statements for each on the PM’s website, during his personal time no less.

    Also sad to see Toronto’s Police Chief Mark Saunders is retiring. He’s been a good and reasonable chief over the last few years.
    You mean trudope wants to spend more money...how much was spent trying to secure that UN seat at that useless bureaucracy???  All the folks with young kids will see their kids and future generations paying for this in a reduction of services particularly health and education...we will be getting closer and closer to a US style healthcare...
    Well we didn’t get the seat, so there’s that. At this point though the amount spent on the bid is just a drop in the bucket compared with all the spending over the last few months (and I’m not suggesting the government shouldn’t be spending right now).

    My concern is moreso that money has been given away (as foreign aid support) to governments and regimes that can’t be trusted to deliver to their citizens. Not sure (and not confident) that accountability was built in to the funding pledges.
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,989
    Disappointing that Singh’s constituents won’t be represented on such an important day for our government. He made his own choice though, when he decided not to apologize.

    https://globalnews.ca/news/7077587/singh-booted-commons-bloc-mp-racist/
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Turns out I was too quick to criticize Trudeau about D-day and Armed Forces Day. He did go to the trouble of posting statements for each on the PM’s website, during his personal time no less.

    Also sad to see Toronto’s Police Chief Mark Saunders is retiring. He’s been a good and reasonable chief over the last few years.
    You mean trudope wants to spend more money...how much was spent trying to secure that UN seat at that useless bureaucracy???  All the folks with young kids will see their kids and future generations paying for this in a reduction of services particularly health and education...we will be getting closer and closer to a US style healthcare...
    Well we didn’t get the seat, so there’s that. At this point though the amount spent on the bid is just a drop in the bucket compared with all the spending over the last few months (and I’m not suggesting the government shouldn’t be spending right now).

    My concern is moreso that money has been given away (as foreign aid support) to governments and regimes that can’t be trusted to deliver to their citizens. Not sure (and not confident) that accountability was built in to the funding pledges.
    LOL...Canada is back...LOL

    I am not disappointed.  He’s pissed China and India off who likely influenced countries to vote against canada...

    And let’s not forget who the real racist is in the HOC...mr. blackface
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • DarthMaeglin
    DarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,989
    I thought this comment from one of the articles about the failed UN bid was pretty funny (and terrifying at the same time), lol.

    ” Fk. Now he is going to put more time into being pm.
    God help us all.”
    "The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."

    10-30-1991 Toronto, Toronto 1 & 2 2016, Toronto 2022