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pjl44 said:I'm open to the idea that this situation could have been handled better by a Biden administration, but statements like this demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding (or willful misrepresentation) of the challenge we're facing right now.0
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I'm sitting this one outdignin said:In the context of Team Trump, this tweet is bang on.0
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I'm sitting this one outAnd that's the most generous interpretation. If he actually thinks the economic argument is about the stock market and not 33 million unemployment claims, we'd have been screwed either way.0
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Bidenpjl44 said:I'm open to the idea that this situation could have been handled better by a Biden administration, but statements like this demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding (or willful misrepresentation) of the challenge we're facing right now.
edit - also remember the comments by the TX Lt Gov which are even more morbid.0 -
I'm sitting this one outmrussel1 said:I think he's saying that choosing between the economy and lives is a false choice, one that should not have to be made. This is countering the Trump statement a few days ago that some people will die because of the economy reopening. I don't think there's anything wrong with this tweet, Trump's statement left a gaping hole to take a shot.
edit - also remember the comments by the TX Lt Gov which are even more morbid.0 -
Bidenpjl44 said:That's my point. He's choosing to engage with the dumbest argument which makes me question his leadership abilities.www.myspace.com0
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I'm sitting this one outThe Juggler said:He's running against an ignoramus who constantly says dumb things that's easy to retort. There's nothing wrong with this statement.0
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Bidenpjl44 said:When we were all in consensus about it being smart of him to lay low on the coronavirus stuff, it's kinda for this reason. Trump's dumb response makes it easy to imagine anyone else with a pulse doing a better job. Popping his head up to belch that out calls attention to the fact that he may not have much better of a grasp on things.www.myspace.com0
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Bidenpjl44 said:And that's the most generous interpretation. If he actually thinks the economic argument is about the stock market and not 33 million unemployment claims, we'd have been screwed either way.0
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Bidenpjl44 said:When we were all in consensus about it being smart of him to lay low on the coronavirus stuff, it's kinda for this reason. Trump's dumb response makes it easy to imagine anyone else with a pulse doing a better job. Popping his head up to belch that out calls attention to the fact that he may not have much better of a grasp on things.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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Bidenpjl44 said:Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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I'm sitting this one outmrussel1 said:You don't think one of the KPIs for the economy Trump is the stock market? He talks about that more than unemployment numbers.0
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I'm sitting this one outmrussel1 said:These are totally different topics. Does Amash think a certain number of deaths are okay to save the economy? Trump does, Biden doesn't. Where does Amash sit?
I posted that Amash point because it's directly addressing the unemployment aspect. Beyond that I think his position is that how to re-open is a state-by-state decision. The federal government should provide guidance, but if they aren't (for ineptitude or whatever reason), it still is ultimately going to fall on each state.0 -
I'm sitting this one outGern Blansten said:That makes no sense. You just want to argue.0
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pjl44 said:You're approaching this way too broadly. If I were to answer your question directly, it's obviously "yes." A plan that estimates 5 incremental deaths but brings back 20 million jobs in a month would be covered. That is a wild exaggeration, but it's to make a point about how silly and unseriously it's being discussed by 2 Presidential candidates.
I posted that Amash point because it's directly addressing the unemployment aspect. Beyond that I think his position is that how to re-open is a state-by-state decision. The federal government should provide guidance, but if they aren't (for ineptitude or whatever reason), it still is ultimately going to fall on each state.
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pjl44 said:I'm open to the idea that this situation could have been handled better by a Biden administration, but statements like this demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding (or willful misrepresentation) of the challenge we're facing right now.0
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BidenCM189191 said:...you know who else has a fundamental misunderstanding of the challenge we're facing right now....???
The tweet's fine. Total non-issue.www.myspace.com0 -
Bidenpjl44 said:In my opinion, he would have been better off keeping quiet than saying that0
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