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Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,132
    Biden
    I'm not a Joe fan.  There is a lot to not like about him.  And yet, I cannot find one reason not to vote for him in this coming election.   It's bad and it's getting worse.  Joe isn't a savior.  Joe really isn't even that great.  He is creepy.  He is old and has certainly lost mental acuity.  And yet in this matchup, by comparison, he looks great, he barely registers as creepy, he still seems old, but he seems less senile!  Joe ain't a savior, but I'm hope he saves us anyhow.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,007
    Biden
    I'm not a Joe fan.  There is a lot to not like about him.  And yet, I cannot find one reason not to vote for him in this coming election.   It's bad and it's getting worse.  Joe isn't a savior.  Joe really isn't even that great.  He is creepy.  He is old and has certainly lost mental acuity.  And yet in this matchup, by comparison, he looks great, he barely registers as creepy, he still seems old, but he seems less senile!  Joe ain't a savior, but I'm hope he saves us anyhow.
    I have liked Biden even back when I was a republican.  I always thought he came across as honest and you could tell that he really cared about people.


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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,132
    Biden
    I'm not a Joe fan.  There is a lot to not like about him.  And yet, I cannot find one reason not to vote for him in this coming election.   It's bad and it's getting worse.  Joe isn't a savior.  Joe really isn't even that great.  He is creepy.  He is old and has certainly lost mental acuity.  And yet in this matchup, by comparison, he looks great, he barely registers as creepy, he still seems old, but he seems less senile!  Joe ain't a savior, but I'm hope he saves us anyhow.
    I have liked Biden even back when I was a republican.  I always thought he came across as honest and you could tell that he really cared about people.


    He's a lot of what I dislike about politicians.  And I never thought he came across as honest.  Just an idiot.  And a creep. Really creepy creep.  But then the republican party told me to hold their beer....
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    I'm guessing Kamala and Amy have been eliminated from VP consideration based on circumstances in the last week.  
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,359
    Biden
    Jason P said:
    I'm guessing Kamala and Amy have been eliminated from VP consideration based on circumstances in the last week.  
    Amy probably. Kamala's stock appears higher in my opinion. ?
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,185
    Biden
    yeah amy is done. i was not super excited about her anyway. i do like kamala, and warren, and abrams. glad i am not the one having to pick, especially in this current climate.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    Jason P said:
    I'm guessing Kamala and Amy have been eliminated from VP consideration based on circumstances in the last week.  
    Amy probably. Kamala's stock appears higher in my opinion. ?
    I'm thinking her previous job is not the first thing she list on her resume these day.  District attorney that increased conviction rates seems to be a liability these days.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,359
    Biden
    Jason P said:
    Jason P said:
    I'm guessing Kamala and Amy have been eliminated from VP consideration based on circumstances in the last week.  
    Amy probably. Kamala's stock appears higher in my opinion. ?
    I'm thinking her previous job is not the first thing she list on her resume these day.  District attorney that increased conviction rates seems to be a liability these days.
    I'm thinking the color of her skin supersedes that. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,185
    Biden
    i think people are willing to forgive if they feel like you are on their side. just my hunch.  but i think that is politics 101.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,831
    Biden
    Jason P said:
    Jason P said:
    I'm guessing Kamala and Amy have been eliminated from VP consideration based on circumstances in the last week.  
    Amy probably. Kamala's stock appears higher in my opinion. ?
    I'm thinking her previous job is not the first thing she list on her resume these day.  District attorney that increased conviction rates seems to be a liability these days.

    Yeah, a lot of justice-reform minded pundits have disliked her this entire time for that reason.  Given that Biden isn't great in this area, historically, she might be a bad match.  And Amy has to be done.  He connection to Chauvin is to be the end of her shot.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,359
    Biden
    i think people are willing to forgive if they feel like you are on their side. just my hunch.  but i think that is politics 101.
    I agree. Bigger problem for her is being from a liberal state, but I think she will be a solid choice for VP.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    Jason P said:
    Jason P said:
    I'm guessing Kamala and Amy have been eliminated from VP consideration based on circumstances in the last week.  
    Amy probably. Kamala's stock appears higher in my opinion. ?
    I'm thinking her previous job is not the first thing she list on her resume these day.  District attorney that increased conviction rates seems to be a liability these days.
    I'm thinking the color of her skin supersedes that. 
    I don’t understand why predetermined dna outweighs personal decision making, but Biden set the rules for who is applicable so technically she is one of the few remaining candidates.  
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,001
    Biden
    Harris is supremely effective during hearings. She needs to stay in the senate.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,359
    edited June 2020
    Biden
    Jason P said:
    Jason P said:
    Jason P said:
    I'm guessing Kamala and Amy have been eliminated from VP consideration based on circumstances in the last week.  
    Amy probably. Kamala's stock appears higher in my opinion. ?
    I'm thinking her previous job is not the first thing she list on her resume these day.  District attorney that increased conviction rates seems to be a liability these days.
    I'm thinking the color of her skin supersedes that. 
    I don’t understand why predetermined dna outweighs personal decision making, but Biden set the rules for who is applicable so technically she is one of the few remaining candidates.  
    Well, because HRC lost 6% of Obama's black vote. If Biden gets just half of those back and keeps those feisty suburban women who flipped the house two year ago, he glides to victory. 

    Sorry, that's just the way it is .
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,359
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    Harris is supremely effective during hearings. She needs to stay in the senate.
    I know but her seat is safely democratic. I think she would be just as effective as an advocate on the campaign trail and on the debate stage. 

    Then again, I thought she'd do much better than she did last year so who knows...
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    Jason P said:
    Jason P said:
    Jason P said:
    I'm guessing Kamala and Amy have been eliminated from VP consideration based on circumstances in the last week.  
    Amy probably. Kamala's stock appears higher in my opinion. ?
    I'm thinking her previous job is not the first thing she list on her resume these day.  District attorney that increased conviction rates seems to be a liability these days.
    I'm thinking the color of her skin supersedes that. 
    I don’t understand why predetermined dna outweighs personal decision making, but Biden set the rules for who is applicable so technically she is one of the few remaining candidates.  
    Well, because HRC lost 6% of Obama's black vote. If Biden gets just half of those back and keeps those feisty suburban women who flipped the house two year ago, he glides to victory. 

    Sorry, that's just the way it is .
    She seems the most human of the bunch.  I'd take her over Warren for sure.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    Probably good that Amy is most likely out.  I could never vote for someone that ate a salad with a comb.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,359
    Biden
    Jason P said:
    Probably good that Amy is most likely out.  I could never vote for someone that ate a salad with a comb.
    I was a big Amy fan. Oh well...
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    darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 5,889
    Biden
    Jason P said:
    Probably good that Amy is most likely out.  I could never vote for someone that ate a salad with a comb.
    I was a big Amy fan. Oh well...
    +1 ‐ I hope she sticks with it. May very well become the first female president of what is left of the U.S.A.
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,574
    Biden
    These are the 5 people on here who admit they will vote for the lying racist xenophobic piece of shit....


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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    edited June 2020
    ahhh
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    i won't be be coerced to vote by fear
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,359
    Biden
    These are the 5 people on here who admit they will vote for the lying racist xenophobic piece of shit....


    If they haven’t changed their minds after yesterday, shame on them. 
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,132
    Biden
    I honestly can't believe religious people can see what he does and still support him.  Shame on them.  There seems to be only 3 voting groups he has:

    1) Racist
    2) Gun owners that want to be able to do whatever they want and buy whatever they want
    3) Anti-abortion voters that can ignore everything else
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,574
    Biden
    I honestly can't believe religious people can see what he does and still support him.  Shame on them.  There seems to be only 3 voting groups he has:

    1) Racist
    2) Gun owners that want to be able to do whatever they want and buy whatever they want
    3) Anti-abortion voters that can ignore everything else
    Yup the so-called "good christians" will continue to support him and ignore his obvious unchristianity as long as he claims to be a lover of christ and guns and hater of abortion and immigrants.

    Shame

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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,007
    Biden
    Biden speaking now....sounds great
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    I'm sitting this one out
    I was ready to quit my job and volunteer for Kamala before the condition of being broke forced her out of the running. If she's on the ticket, I would no longer sit this one out.

    And I'm not sitting out the election, by the way, I'll likely just leave the top item blank, as I've done in the past three election days in which a choice for US president was on the ballot. I still vote for propositions and other local, state, federal candidates.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,185
    Biden
    dankind said:
    I was ready to quit my job and volunteer for Kamala before the condition of being broke forced her out of the running. If she's on the ticket, I would no longer sit this one out.

    And I'm not sitting out the election, by the way, I'll likely just leave the top item blank, as I've done in the past three election days in which a choice for US president was on the ballot. I still vote for propositions and other local, state, federal candidates.
    again, a non vote is a vote for fascism, but by all means, you do you.
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,753
    edited June 2020
    Biden
    dankind said:
    I was ready to quit my job and volunteer for Kamala before the condition of being broke forced her out of the running. If she's on the ticket, I would no longer sit this one out.

    And I'm not sitting out the election, by the way, I'll likely just leave the top item blank, as I've done in the past three election days in which a choice for US president was on the ballot. I still vote for propositions and other local, state, federal candidates.
    The republicans love people like you. They count on you to be so butt-hurt by the primary results that you refuse to vote for the general election candidate. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,185
    Biden
    dankind said:
    I was ready to quit my job and volunteer for Kamala before the condition of being broke forced her out of the running. If she's on the ticket, I would no longer sit this one out.

    And I'm not sitting out the election, by the way, I'll likely just leave the top item blank, as I've done in the past three election days in which a choice for US president was on the ballot. I still vote for propositions and other local, state, federal candidates.
    The republicans love people like you. They count on you to be so butt-hurt by the primary results that you refuse to vote for the general election candidate. 
    exactly. try to explain that to your grandkids.

    "sorry kids, i was unwilling to decide between trump and biden."
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