The coronavirus

CM189191 said:

what dreams said:

CM189191 said:

mcgruff10 said:

bbiggs said:

Can we call it the Wet Market Virus? 

I am sure someone will say “Wet Market” is racist .

There are wet markets everywhere

Here's one in Washington DC:

The Wharf in DC is a fish market. I guess it's wet?? 
I'd call this comment a fail at cultural relativism.
Edit: And by the way, it's currently closed for business

A wet market is a marketplace selling fresh meat, fish, produce, and other perishable goods as distinguished from "dry markets" that sell durable goods such as fabric and electronics. The term wet market is often used to signify a live animal market in which vendors slaughter animals upon customer purchase. 

There's one here in St Paul.  You can pick out your goat chicken or pig.  They will kill and butcher it for you there at the market.

http://www.citypages.com/restaurants/reviews/long-cheng-livestock-market-slays-your-meal-in-front-of-you-6725387

I’ve been there. Got a pig there once for a school pig roast. It’s a butcher shop.  No different from one in any small town in MN, except you can watch the animal get slaughtered if you’d like. Its not some back alley stall. They also get inspected.

 Gigantic difference between a place like Long Cheng and the “wet markets” found throughout Southeast Asia and China. You won’t find live raccoons, rats, cats, and other animals in stacked cages so they can shit and piss on each other. Also there are no health inspectors coming through these places.

bbiggs said:

^ They left pangolin and bat off the menu.  Strange. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6lRKAdvuY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI

The Juggler said:

mace1229 said:

But anyone who is calling out Trump and anyone else as racist for calling it a Chinese virus I hope they’re treating CNN and Gayle King as racists too. But I’m not seeing that.

A commons theme I have seen here and elsewhere. Trump supporters seem to be much more concerned with him being labeled a racist than they do with his overwhelmingly shitty response to this pandemic which has resulted in tens of thousands of American deaths.

Well if people would stop harping on the fact that Trump calls it the Chinese Virus, his supporters wouldn't have to be concerned with him being labeled a racist (I think they're used to that anyway), and might have to face the reality of how poor his response to the pandemic has been. 

This has been a problem with people that oppose Trump from the beginning. It's almost like a cop framing an already guilty man....you give them a way out that they don't deserve (see: Simpson, OJ). Pretend for a second that you're a Trump-fan. What would your rather argue about with a Trump-hater; his actual handling of the pandemic, or whether calling it the Chinese virus is racist? Obviously the latter. Trump, like his fans, love that liberals are upset about his words, because it distracts from his actions (or inaction).

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

mace1229 said:

But anyone who is calling out Trump and anyone else as racist for calling it a Chinese virus I hope they’re treating CNN and Gayle King as racists too. But I’m not seeing that.

A commons theme I have seen here and elsewhere. Trump supporters seem to be much more concerned with him being labeled a racist than they do with his overwhelmingly shitty response to this pandemic which has resulted in tens of thousands of American deaths.

Well if people would stop harping on the fact that Trump calls it the Chinese Virus, his supporters wouldn't have to be concerned with him being labeled a racist (I think they're used to that anyway), and might have to face the reality of how poor his response to the pandemic has been. 

This has been a problem with people that oppose Trump from the beginning. It's almost like a cop framing an already guilty man....you give them a way out that they don't deserve (see: Simpson, OJ). Pretend for a second that you're a Trump-fan. What would your rather argue about with a Trump-hater; his actual handling of the pandemic, or whether calling it the Chinese virus is racist? Obviously the latter. Trump, like his fans, love that liberals are upset about his words, because it distracts from his actions (or inaction).

I understand your point, but if Trump’s supporters haven’t yet faced the reality of the man being a racist, what makes you think they would accept the reality of how poorly he’s handled the pandemic? 

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Merkin Baller said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

The Juggler said:

mace1229 said:

But anyone who is calling out Trump and anyone else as racist for calling it a Chinese virus I hope they’re treating CNN and Gayle King as racists too. But I’m not seeing that.

A commons theme I have seen here and elsewhere. Trump supporters seem to be much more concerned with him being labeled a racist than they do with his overwhelmingly shitty response to this pandemic which has resulted in tens of thousands of American deaths.

Well if people would stop harping on the fact that Trump calls it the Chinese Virus, his supporters wouldn't have to be concerned with him being labeled a racist (I think they're used to that anyway), and might have to face the reality of how poor his response to the pandemic has been. 

This has been a problem with people that oppose Trump from the beginning. It's almost like a cop framing an already guilty man....you give them a way out that they don't deserve (see: Simpson, OJ). Pretend for a second that you're a Trump-fan. What would your rather argue about with a Trump-hater; his actual handling of the pandemic, or whether calling it the Chinese virus is racist? Obviously the latter. Trump, like his fans, love that liberals are upset about his words, because it distracts from his actions (or inaction).

I understand your point, but if Trump’s supporters haven’t yet faced the reality of the man being a racist, what makes you think they would accept the reality of how poorly he’s handled the pandemic? 

Because it affects them, which racism (that they to a large extent share) does not?

Yeah exactly. As for the racism, I don't know if a "large extent" of his supporters share racist views. I bet many do, but there's also probably many that see his racism but don't care because it doesn't effect them, and there are probably others that simply believe he's not racist. I think the largest group is the second group (seeing the racism, but dismissing it because it doesn't effect them).