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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,866
    bbiggs said:
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    Wonder if Texas will be getting large concerts again this year too. 50% at a stadium is still over double an arena show. 
    I don’t see why not. These protests pretty much put the nail in the coffin for social distancing. 
    Was thinking the same. A few weeks ago a group of 10 was a scary thought. Now groups of 10,000 are a daily occurrence. 
    Yup.  This past week in NYC you could get in more trouble for dipping a toe in the ocean than looting department stores. Weird times. I really hope NYC doesn’t see a huge spike in Covid cases the next two weeks. Just as we’re making progress here. 
    I saw you guys had zero Covid deaths yesterday for the first time in months.  Big milestone.  Hope it continues for everyone's sake.

    Thank you. After a week of over 700 deaths per day just a few weeks ago, it’s a huge milestone. 
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,950
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    Had a good laugh at this probably more than I should have. This is not aimed at anyone here btw. 
    This is so spot on! 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,715
    https://www.alumni.ubc.ca/events/covid-19-webinars/

    The above is a link to a series of covid webinars which addresses: Coping; Rebuilding a greener society; Global collaboration in drug trials/vaccine; Protecting seniors; Effective learning from home; Treatments; Anxiety; and an upcoming conversation with Dr. Henry about Infastructure.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,701
    Yup, just everyday exposure to more cleaning products being around the house because of covid. Because, you know, when mom and dad bring home more cleaning products, it’s gonna happen that folks are going to gargle with bleach, put it in their food and/or wash their bodies with it. Buh, buh, buh Team Trump Treason said it was okay or well, I just figured.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/health/bleach-americans-cleaning-covid-trnd/index.html
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,166
    Friend just got back to our NY suburbs from FL. They said it’s like a different world down there, everyone is out, restaurants airports etc all crowded and up here empty. 
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,866
    Friend just got back to our NY suburbs from FL. They said it’s like a different world down there, everyone is out, restaurants airports etc all crowded and up here empty. 
    I heard the same from a buddy who was down there for 2 months. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,701

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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,843
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    A good article from the NYT about BC's excellent Dr. Bonnie Henry, who has shepherded us through what could have been a disastrous covid outbreak - we border Washington state, have a lot of travelers from Asian countries, and in early March had a dental conference that led to 87 cases and could have been a "super spreader" event - with her calm, skilled leadership. "Be kind, be calm, be safe". 

    The Top Doctor Who Aced the Coronavirus Test

    Dr. Bonnie Henry kept the disease in check in British Columbia without harsh enforcement methods. Now, she is leading the way out of lockdown.

    That Tuesday in March was the day Bonnie Henry had been preparing for her whole life.

    Overnight, 83 people had tested positive for the novel coronavirus and three more had died. The pandemic had officially broken out in British Columbia.

    Standing inside the provincial legislature’s press gallery, the preternaturally calm top doctor of Canada’s westernmost province declared a public health emergency. Under her orders and recommendations, schools closed, bars shuttered and social distancing measures were put in place.

    “It seemed so surreal,” she said. “I felt like someone was standing on my chest.”

    That day, March 17, Dr. Henry ended her presentation with a line that would become her trademark, and a mantra for many Canadians struggling to cope under a lockdown. It has since been hung in windows, painted on streets, printed on T-shirts, stitched on shoes, folded into songs and stamped on bracelets.

    “This is our time to be kind,” she said in her slow and low-pitched voice that many call comforting, “to be calm and to be safe.”

    In the next few months, Dr. Henry would prove to be one of the most effective public health officials in the world, with lessons for nations struggling to emerge from lockdowns.

    (article continued in link)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/05/world/canada/bonnie-henry-british-columbia-coronavirus.html?action=click&module=Editors%20Picks&pgtype=Homepage

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    PJNBPJNB Posts: 12,913
    I think the obvious recipe for success and reopening is to do a better job of protecting our sick and older population. If we did that from the start in NA and Italy/Spain we would have had no wheres near the deaths we did. 81% of the deaths in Canada as of mid May came from people in LTC. We failed them sadly. Yes this virus can affect everyone but we have enough info out there now that as a child or healthy adult the chances of you dying or even being put in the ICU is slim to none. 
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,178
    Friend just got back to our NY suburbs from FL. They said it’s like a different world down there, everyone is out, restaurants airports etc all crowded and up here empty. 
    Yeah...neighbor just got back from Ft Myers and she said the same thing 
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    cutzcutz Posts: 11,490
    Not counting the employees, how many mask do you see in this video?


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    JT167846JT167846 Posts: 835
    Here in NZ we've smashed it. 0 active cases and save borders we go back to normal in three hours. The vast majority have done so well and apparently the economy is in a wee bit better shape than first feared. Of course there will be the odd case to pop up, hopefully not from the Avatar crew or the protests, but that risk should hopefully only happen when borders open up. The government is far from perfect, just like any government, but on dealing with this particular issue, Jacinda Ardern and Ashley Bloomfield have been outstanding and Ardern a leader we can be very proud of. Wishing everyone (and ourselves still) the very best of luck in getting and keeping cases down and an effective vaccine quickly.
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    JT167846 said:
    Here in NZ we've smashed it. 0 active cases and save borders we go back to normal in three hours. The vast majority have done so well and apparently the economy is in a wee bit better shape than first feared. Of course there will be the odd case to pop up, hopefully not from the Avatar crew or the protests, but that risk should hopefully only happen when borders open up. The government is far from perfect, just like any government, but on dealing with this particular issue, Jacinda Ardern and Ashley Bloomfield have been outstanding and Ardern a leader we can be very proud of. Wishing everyone (and ourselves still) the very best of luck in getting and keeping cases down and an effective vaccine quickly.
    As Murray on Flight of the Concords says, “New Zealand ROCKS!!!” ;)

    Really, that’s fantastic news. Well done!
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    JT167846 said:
    Here in NZ we've smashed it. 0 active cases and save borders we go back to normal in three hours. The vast majority have done so well and apparently the economy is in a wee bit better shape than first feared. Of course there will be the odd case to pop up, hopefully not from the Avatar crew or the protests, but that risk should hopefully only happen when borders open up. The government is far from perfect, just like any government, but on dealing with this particular issue, Jacinda Ardern and Ashley Bloomfield have been outstanding and Ardern a leader we can be very proud of. Wishing everyone (and ourselves still) the very best of luck in getting and keeping cases down and an effective vaccine quickly.
    That's great! I just came here to post about that.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-newzealand/ardern-dances-for-joy-after-new-zealand-eliminates-coronavirus-idUSKBN23F0B5
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    Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,756
    Very interesting.  Sounds like the main thing that the mass hysteria crowd has been yelling about isn't true...

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,682
    It is like eating eggs being good or bad for you...different study different day.
    This is great news if true, it would greatly impact the way things are dealt with moving forward

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    Indifference71Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,756
    It is like eating eggs being good or bad for you...different study different day.
    This is great news if true, it would greatly impact the way things are dealt with moving forward


    Oh for sure.  It's hard to know what to believe anymore.  But yeah, if this is true that would be a game changer.
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    bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,932
    Literally the exact opposite of what they’ve been saying all along.  Unbelievable. 
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    bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,932
    So the takeaways are to stay away from people with fevers, that are coughing and sneezing and you should be in good shape.  If you’re sick, stay home.  All seems pretty simple. What am I missing? 
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    F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 30,682
    That they will change their minds in about a week?
    ;)
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    bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,932
    That they will change their minds in about a week?
    ;)
    Amen!! Can’t keep up. Lol 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,831
    That they will change their minds in about a week?
    ;)

    Probably.  From the article: "More research and data are needed to "truly answer" the question of whether the coronavirus can spread widely through asymptomatic carriers, Van Kerkhove added"

    I know we like hard, unwavering answers but you're going to get evolving / changing findings.  That's science for you.  But this doesn't mean the earlier evidence was some sort of conspiracy against Trump or capitalism.

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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,701
    OnWis97 said:
    That they will change their minds in about a week?
    ;)

    Probably.  From the article: "More research and data are needed to "truly answer" the question of whether the coronavirus can spread widely through asymptomatic carriers, Van Kerkhove added"

    I know we like hard, unwavering answers but you're going to get evolving / changing findings.  That's science for you.  But this doesn't mean the earlier evidence was some sort of conspiracy against Trump or capitalism.

    No, but it was a Deep State plot to take down Team Trump Treason after the Russia, Russia, Russia and Impeachment hoaxes failed.
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    bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,932
    OnWis97 said:
    That they will change their minds in about a week?
    ;)

    Probably.  From the article: "More research and data are needed to "truly answer" the question of whether the coronavirus can spread widely through asymptomatic carriers, Van Kerkhove added"

    I know we like hard, unwavering answers but you're going to get evolving / changing findings.  That's science for you.  But this doesn't mean the earlier evidence was some sort of conspiracy against Trump or capitalism.

    I'm not a scientist or medical expert, so maybe this is how things go in the world of novel viruses.  That said, as a layman, it is incredible to me that certain parts of this pandemic have literally done 180 degree turns in the matter of a few short weeks or months.  These are topics that the "experts" announced with conviction, too.  They said flat out that this virus was transmitted by asymptomatic carriers.  Not only that, but that the transmission by asymptomatic carriers could be one of the biggest contributors to the spread of the virus.  Now they say it cannot be spread by asymptomatic carriers.  That's a pretty big one to get wrong, if they did.  Maybe should have held tight on announcing to the world that it was spread that way.

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    oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,843
    bbiggs said:
    OnWis97 said:
    That they will change their minds in about a week?
    ;)

    Probably.  From the article: "More research and data are needed to "truly answer" the question of whether the coronavirus can spread widely through asymptomatic carriers, Van Kerkhove added"

    I know we like hard, unwavering answers but you're going to get evolving / changing findings.  That's science for you.  But this doesn't mean the earlier evidence was some sort of conspiracy against Trump or capitalism.

    I'm not a scientist or medical expert, so maybe this is how things go in the world of novel viruses.  That said, as a layman, it is incredible to me that certain parts of this pandemic have literally done 180 degree turns in the matter of a few short weeks or months.  These are topics that the "experts" announced with conviction, too.  They said flat out that this virus was transmitted by asymptomatic carriers.  Not only that, but that the transmission by asymptomatic carriers could be one of the biggest contributors to the spread of the virus.  Now they say it cannot be spread by asymptomatic carriers.  That's a pretty big one to get wrong, if they did.  Maybe should have held tight on announcing to the world that it was spread that way.

    They are not saying it can’t be spread by asymptotic carriers, they are saying that this is less common than had been believed and not the predominant method of spread.  

    We have known about this virus for less than one year. This is lightning speed accumulation of knowledge, in comparison to how it usually goes. It’s completely unrealistic to expect that all preliminary findings will go on to be correct.

    If scientists had said that there was little to no risk of asymptomatic spread and it turned out that it was actually significant, I suspect that you, and many others, would be screaming about that. 
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