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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,364
    Here’s what intelligence and leadership looks like. But yea, throw him under the bus for Team Trump Treason’s very stable genius.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/anthony-faucis-security-is-stepped-up-as-doctor-and-face-of-us-coronavirus-response-receives-threats/2020/04/01/ff861a16-744d-11ea-85cb-8670579b863d_story.html
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,484
    Just find out the IT guy at my company is printing face shields for hospitals



    My printer, which is a simpler model, can make two n 1.5 hours. Imagine if a couple of thousand make 20 shells a day. It's great that together we can contribute a necessary and useful product instead of plastic figures and other unnecessary things, says Kjell Brandes.

    The Västra Götaland region has an overall responsibility to ensure that the municipalities' need for protection visas is met. VGR collaborates with Chalmers University to ensure that the visor is of the right quality and then sends it for distribution.

    - There is a huge need that we hope to meet when the industry and private individuals are helped this year. We get a very positive response so I am convinced that we will succeed, says Jonas Anselmby, who coordinates the work with the face visor at VGR.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JPPJ84
    JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    ^^ that’s pretty cool!
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Thought it was Boom at first.
  • RideRick
    RideRick Hoorn Posts: 703
     When was the EU travel ban and closing of our borders announced?
    If i told you airplanes still coming from New York to Amsterdam and no control on our borders side are made. would you believe me?
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Well worth taking an hour and 11 minutes to watch this.  Some of the best COVID info yet:



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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just when I think he can't go any lower he does.  President Trump is such a POS:  
    “For whatever reason, New York got off to a very late start and you see what happens when you get off to a late start," Trump said during his daily White House news conference. "New Jersey got off to — and I think both governors are doing an excellent job now but they got off to a very late start.”

    A spokesman for New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy responded Tuesday night by saying the New Jersey governor “was far ahead of the federal government in responding swiftly and decisively to the spread of COVID-19."

    “If anything, the federal government has been following his lead,” Mahen Gunaratna, Murphy’s communications director, said in a statement to NJ Advance Media.

    And Cuomo’s communications director, Dani Lever, responded to Trump’s comments by saying: “This is not the time to debate, but the for states were not slow to respond — the federal government was absent.”

    Unbelievable what he's saying now. He most certainly doesn't want to take ANY responsibility for his casual nature when this all started back in January. At the time I was a bit cavalier about the virus till I started to see the death count rise in Europe. 

    He's delusional for sure.

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  • rhanishane
    rhanishane NSW Australia Posts: 505
    Just a light hearted laugh to brighten the mood. This is police force and our penalties in NSW Australia that came into effect April 1. Some of these are funny, by the way the massage parlour under businesses is actually a brothel lol.

    A total of 13 Penalty Infringement Notices (PINs) were issued yesterday in relation to alleged breaches of the Public Health Act:

    INDIVIDUALS

    - Just after midnight (Wednesday 1 April 2020), police were patrolling Artarmon when they saw two men standing together on the Princes Highway. It’s alleged that as officers approached, one of the men ran – but was chased and eventually stopped by police. Both men gave varying accounts about why they were out, however neither satisfied the requirements stipulated by the Public Health Order. The men – aged 19 and 24 – were searched, issued with infringement notices and moved on. 

    - About 1.30am yesterday (Wednesday 1 April 2020), officers attached to New England Police District stopped a vehicle on Adelaide Street, Moree, for the purposes of a roadside breath test. The driver, a 34-year-old woman, was unable to provide a reasonable excuse for leaving her home in Coonamble and was issued with a penalty infringement notice.

    - About 1.30am yesterday (Wednesday 1 April 2020), police stopped a car in Coonamble containing five people and gave them a verbal warning about social distancing, public gatherings and non-essential travel. It will be alleged that at 8.45am the same morning, one of the occupants of the vehicle – a 21-year-old woman – was spotted by officers walking around Coonamble without a legitimate excuse. She was issued with an infringement notice.

    - Yesterday about 3.15am (Wednesday 1 April 2020) officers from Orana Mid-Western Police District fined a 23-year-old man for not comply with noticed direction (Section 7/8/9 – COVID-19). The man was given a warning by police the previous evening, before being caught leaving his home a second time without a reasonable excuse.

    - About 9.15am on Friday 20 March 2020, a 28-year-old man arrived in Australia from New Zealand, with two travel companions and was informed of his obligations to enter a 14-day self-isolation period in his home due to COVID-19. About 10.30am yesterday (Wednesday 1 April 2020), officers attached to Riverina Police District attended the man’s registered address in Gundagai to conduct a welfare and compliance check. The man was not home and was later stopped by police driving his vehicle on Sheridan Street. For failing to self-quarantine, the man was issued with a Penalty Infringement Notice.

    - About 4pm (Wednesday 1 April 2020), police saw two men sitting together at Caseys Beach Reserve, Batehaven, drinking alcohol. When officers spoke with the pair, it’s alleged they became abusive and claimed they were exercising. One of the men, aged 41, was charged with an unrelated offence and issued an infringement notice in relation to breaching a Public Health Order. The other 44-year-old man was issued an infringement notice, searched and moved on from the area.

    - Just before 6pm (Wednesday 1 April 2020), police attended a single vehicle crash on Union Rd, Lavington. The car’s only occupant – a 51-year-old man – was not injured, but allegedly told police he had left his home in order to visit his drug dealer. The man was arrested and taken to hospital for blood and urine testing. Checks revealed he was disqualified from driving. He was issued with a Future Court Attendance Notice for driving whilst disqualified (2nd+ offence) and given an infringement notice for contravening a Public Health Order.

    - A man and a woman were fined yesterday (Wednesday 1 April 2020), after police patrolling Scott Street, Muswellbrook, spotted the pair sitting in a car. Following inquiries, officers attached to Hunter Valley Police District found neither the 32-year-old woman or the 27-year-old man had a reasonable excuse not to be at home.

    - Yesterday, a 21-year-old man ignored two warnings to be fined $1000 for failing to comply with Ministerial directions under the Public Health Act. Officers attached to Newcastle City Police District found the man for the third time that day (Wednesday 1 April 2020), on Market St eating a kebab on a bench.

    BUSINESSES

    - Officers from Lake Macquarie Police District attended a remedial massage business on Harrison Street, Cardiff, about 4pm yesterday (Wednesday 1 April 2020), following information it was continuing to operate. Police observed several customers enter and leave the premises. The operator, a 57-year-old woman, was spoken to and issued a $5,000 PIN for failing to comply with noticed direction (Section 7/8/9 – COVID-19).

    Anyone who has information regarding individuals or businesses in contravention of a COVID-19-related ministerial direction is urged to contact Crime Stoppers: https://nsw.crimestoppers.com.au. Information is treated in strict confidence. The public is reminded not to report crime via NSW Police social media pages.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,484
    edited April 2020


    Is softly, softly Sweden heading for catastrophe? Alone in Europe, its schools, bars and restaurants are open as usual... in a maverick response to coronavirus. But now deaths are set to soar – and ministers are facing fury, writes PAUL CONNOLLY [This is actually not at all what he writes]


    When the affable, slightly dull, prime minister, Stefan Lofven, appeared on Swedish television last week, many Swedes expected him to announce, at the very least, the closure of schools for children under 16.

    But no. Lofven merely asked Swedes to take responsibility for theirs and their loved ones' health.

    So why is Lofven and his government taking such a potentially dangerous non-interventionist approach?

    Part of the reason is to protect Sweden's economy. The government is well aware of the devastating economic impact that enacting an Italy-style lockdown could have on the country. It could leave whole communities out of work by the autumn.

    But there is also one other key, far less heralded, Swedish trait that may account for the country's more restrained attitude towards containing coronavirus: the government trusts its citizens to do the right thing and follow experts' guidance.

    Sweden is still a very community-led nation, especially away from the cities. People firmly believe that community comes first, not the individual.

    /.../

    Of course, it also helps that Sweden still generally trusts its experts. During this crisis, Lofven has transparently ceded the floor to the Public Health Authority and his state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, who, together, appear to have driven this slightly laissez-faire but measured approach.

    Interestingly, both Norway and Denmark's public health authorities recently advised their respective governments to follow elements of Sweden's more restrained strategy – but both governments overruled them.

    /.../

    Though not every voice in the scientific community is so optimistic. Fredrik Elgh, a virology professor at Umeå University, recently told SVT news: 'I'd rather Stockholm was quarantined. We are almost the only country in the world not doing everything we can to curb the infection. This is bloody serious.'

    For their part, Tegnell and Lofven have not ruled out implementing stricter measures if the situation worsens.

    But in the meantime Sweden will continue to play an ambitious long game to protect its economy, citizens and society.

    And while the Swedes may not like being the centre of attention, if this risky strategy limits the loss of life and prevents the prolonged agony of a wrecked economy, they may well forgive the government for thrusting them into the global spotlight. 

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8173691/Is-softly-softly-Sweden-heading-catastrophe.html
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,992
    mcgruff10 said:
    Well almost a week after his birthday I saw my son tonight.  We air hugged and air high fived.  It was so great seeing him.  I almost starting crying because I couldn’t hug him.
     I did want to say thank you to all you people here.  You all have definitely helped me get through this crazy period of life.  I love our big disfuctional international family. So a big cheers to you guys!! Drinking Pinot Grigio with ice of course!! Stay safe and healthy.  

    Stop put icecubes in your wine man!!!!
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,992
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

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  • Tristelune
    Tristelune Posts: 318
    23scidoo said:
    Yes, that was to be expected unfortunately.

  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,937
    DewieCox said:
    Bullshit posts like that are a perfect example.


    South Korea: tested immediately and often.

    USA: didn't want to test

    Both: first case on same day

    If you want to prove your point, go ahead and post the deaths per capita of each country and where they are in their respective curves.

    If you want to prove you have courage, go ahead and post trumps comments about not wanting to test and why at that critical junction that separates SK and USA.

    If you cant, and you cant, keep your "both sides" nonsense to yourself. Because we know if obama effed up testing like this and the USA system was worst in the world at saving American lives we very much know the crap obama would be getting from Republicans 


  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    DewieCox said:
    Bullshit posts like that are a perfect example.


    South Korea: tested immediately and often.

    USA: didn't want to test

    Both: first case on same day

    If you want to prove your point, go ahead and post the deaths per capita of each country and where they are in their respective curves.

    If you want to prove you have courage, go ahead and post trumps comments about not wanting to test and why at that critical junction that separates SK and USA.

    If you cant, and you cant, keep your "both sides" nonsense to yourself. Because we know if obama effed up testing like this and the USA system was worst in the world at saving American lives we very much know the crap obama would be getting from Republicans 


    lol - didn't you see?  They're still blaming Obama for this!
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    DewieCox said:
    Bullshit posts like that are a perfect example.


    South Korea: tested immediately and often.

    USA: didn't want to test

    Both: first case on same day

    If you want to prove your point, go ahead and post the deaths per capita of each country and where they are in their respective curves.

    If you want to prove you have courage, go ahead and post trumps comments about not wanting to test and why at that critical junction that separates SK and USA.

    If you cant, and you cant, keep your "both sides" nonsense to yourself. Because we know if obama effed up testing like this and the USA system was worst in the world at saving American lives we very much know the crap obama would be getting from Republicans 


    Agreed. The both sides mantra is nonsense.
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    It’s not. Wake up. I wasn’t referring to the link. I was referring to the post. It’s not just this situation. It’s years and years of back and forth that has poisoned one side against the other. When somebody fucks up, call them on it. This attitude that Democrats are somehow morally superior or have the road  map to utopia is idiotic. 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,256
    DewieCox said:
    It’s not. Wake up. I wasn’t referring to the link. I was referring to the post. It’s not just this situation. It’s years and years of back and forth that has poisoned one side against the other. When somebody fucks up, call them on it. This attitude that Democrats are somehow morally superior or have the road  map to utopia is idiotic. 
    Don’t bother. For me, anyone that looks at either side and thinks everything is right or perfect from top to bottom, is probably insane. If you don’t disagree with anything on the side you lean towards, then that’s a huge problem. 
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    nicknyr15 said:
    DewieCox said:
    It’s not. Wake up. I wasn’t referring to the link. I was referring to the post. It’s not just this situation. It’s years and years of back and forth that has poisoned one side against the other. When somebody fucks up, call them on it. This attitude that Democrats are somehow morally superior or have the road  map to utopia is idiotic. 
    Don’t bother. For me, anyone that looks at either side and thinks everything is right or perfect from top to bottom, is probably insane. If you don’t disagree with anything on the side you lean towards, then that’s a huge problem. 
    There is a world of difference between “don’t disagree with anything on the side you lean toward” and what people are actually saying on here, though. 
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,256
    nicknyr15 said:
    DewieCox said:
    It’s not. Wake up. I wasn’t referring to the link. I was referring to the post. It’s not just this situation. It’s years and years of back and forth that has poisoned one side against the other. When somebody fucks up, call them on it. This attitude that Democrats are somehow morally superior or have the road  map to utopia is idiotic. 
    Don’t bother. For me, anyone that looks at either side and thinks everything is right or perfect from top to bottom, is probably insane. If you don’t disagree with anything on the side you lean towards, then that’s a huge problem. 
    There is a world of difference between “don’t disagree with anything on the side you lean toward” and what people are actually saying on here, though. 
    Not really. Most people here talk down to anyone who they assume support Trump just because they question certain things. I’ve never seen or heard any complaint here about anything on the left. Well, except all the venomous posts that got the debate thread shut down. 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    nicknyr15 said:
    DewieCox said:
    It’s not. Wake up. I wasn’t referring to the link. I was referring to the post. It’s not just this situation. It’s years and years of back and forth that has poisoned one side against the other. When somebody fucks up, call them on it. This attitude that Democrats are somehow morally superior or have the road  map to utopia is idiotic. 
    Don’t bother. For me, anyone that looks at either side and thinks everything is right or perfect from top to bottom, is probably insane. If you don’t disagree with anything on the side you lean towards, then that’s a huge problem. 
    Even though you keep saying that it doesn't make it true. Nobody is saying that the Democrats are perfect.

    What I'm saying is one side is a lot worse. If the handling of this hasn't made that abundantly clear, you my friend have been the one "drinking the kool-aid". Not to mention the idiocy of the last 4 years.
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