The coronavirus

Halifax2TheMax

jeffbr said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Worth a scroll through reality but how depressing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/politics/trump-coronavirus-statements/

Thanks for posting this. Recommended reading. It isn't simply a typical list of contradictory Trump quotes. It is a pretty interesting timeline with some info graphics of confirmed cases & deaths, as well as little stock market charts for each phase of Trump's (mis)management of this pandemic along with his ever-changing public posturing. 

And the WaPo has made Coronavirus coverage free so no paywall.

jeffbr

mfc2006 said:

mcgruff10 said:

Just when I think he can't go any lower he does.  President Trump is such a POS:  
“For whatever reason, New York got off to a very late start and you see what happens when you get off to a late start," Trump said during his daily White House news conference. "New Jersey got off to — and I think both governors are doing an excellent job now but they got off to a very late start.”

A spokesman for New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy responded Tuesday night by saying the New Jersey governor “was far ahead of the federal government in responding swiftly and decisively to the spread of COVID-19."

“If anything, the federal government has been following his lead,” Mahen Gunaratna, Murphy’s communications director, said in a statement to NJ Advance Media.

And Cuomo’s communications director, Dani Lever, responded to Trump’s comments by saying: “This is not the time to debate, but the states were not slow to respond — the federal government was absent.”

POS President. Fuck him.

Agreed. Fuck him. When this thing started in the US in Washington State, our governor, Jay Inslee was essentially alone on an island yelling for help from the Feds, while Trump was telling us it would go from 15 to zero and that even if people got COVID-19 it would be mild and they should keep going to work. I can tell you that without solid leadership from some governors at the state level, this would have been WAY worse than it is. Trump had to be pulled kicking and screaming into doing something about this, and only did so after it was too late. Every hour matters with this (or any) pandemic. Every delay results in death. Every indecision or denial of reality means exponentially more community spread. Anyone who thinks that Trump has shown leadership during this pandemic has their head way up their ass. Big thanks to the governors with the guts and fortitude to take on the virus and the Feds at the same time. They should not have to be fighting two big battles concurrently, but they are. Trump faces the first real crisis of his presidency (at least the first one that he didn't initially create) and he fell on his face. People are dying, the virus is spreading like wildfire, we are still unprepared as far as tests, PPE, ventilators. All of his bragging rights went up in smoke as well - unemployment back to pre-Trump days. The markets back to pre-Trump days. He's got nothing left to hang his hat on. 

mcgruff10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

josevolution said:

Hell here in NY a major hub for people from every corner of earth do people really believe this virus was not already here by the time the no flights from China was issued , it was already to late to totally contain it!!

As Johan Giesecke says - closing borders is a "swing into thin air", if you already have a virus spreading by itself in your community.

I would think it is better to keep more people out who could potentially have and spread covid19.  

rgambs

Thank you for giving us this day our daily Giesecke.

Spiritual_Chaos

In these coronation times, many may feel anxious about going out, choosing instead to stay home. This is something that Johan Giesecke strongly discourages.

- There are a lot of people sitting at home and you shouldn't do that. You should go out and walk in the spring sun. Take fresh air. Bring a friend and walk with a meter between you. Don't hug the neighbor. Bring a thermos and sit on a park bench. It is dangerous for the health to just sit at home too, he says in the Morning Studio.

Regarding alarmism and public voices saying that one must stay completely isolated, Johan Giesecke replies:

- But that must be possible, also outside? Choose a park, round people and not walk into them.

"Seems a little exaggerated"

Recently, Germany introduced new rules that stop public gatherings in the public environment with more than two people.

- It seems a little exaggerated. Infecting people outdoors you don't have to think too much about. The spread outdoors is small, children are kept outside in kindergartens for the reason of not infecting each other.

So when can you expect the corona crisis to be over?

- That is impossible to know. But my gut says it will calm down at the end of May. This is based on the fact that I have been dealing with infection protection for 40 years. This is the fifth major pandemic in the world that has hit Sweden that I have been involved with, ”he says.

josevolution

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/pentagon-seeking-100-000-body-bags-for-civilians-in-virus-crisis
The body bags have already been ordered I don’t think there’s any back orders in these!

bbiggs

A friend of mine claims that he heard on the news that if you freeze something with coronavirus on it, that it can live for up to two years.  I have not seen or heard anything that lends to the legitimacy of this.  This could be important because with many of us trying to avoid going to the grocery store often, stocking up on foods that you may end up freezing could be commonplace.  I wipe everything down from the store, but it's still worth knowing.  Has anyone heard this from a credible source?

josevolution

bbiggs said:

A friend of mine claims that he heard on the news that if you freeze something with coronavirus on it, that it can live for up to two years.  I have not seen or heard anything that lends to the legitimacy of this.  This could be important because with many of us trying to avoid going to the grocery store often, stocking up on foods that you may end up freezing could be commonplace.  I wipe everything down from the store, but it's still worth knowing.  Has anyone heard this from a credible source?

I haven’t but it’s good practice to wipe down your items before storing them ..

bbiggs

josevolution said:

bbiggs said:

A friend of mine claims that he heard on the news that if you freeze something with coronavirus on it, that it can live for up to two years.  I have not seen or heard anything that lends to the legitimacy of this.  This could be important because with many of us trying to avoid going to the grocery store often, stocking up on foods that you may end up freezing could be commonplace.  I wipe everything down from the store, but it's still worth knowing.  Has anyone heard this from a credible source?

I haven’t but it’s good practice to wipe down your items before storing them ..

Agreed.  I never thought bringing in groceries could be such a process lol

josevolution

bbiggs said:

josevolution said:

bbiggs said:

A friend of mine claims that he heard on the news that if you freeze something with coronavirus on it, that it can live for up to two years.  I have not seen or heard anything that lends to the legitimacy of this.  This could be important because with many of us trying to avoid going to the grocery store often, stocking up on foods that you may end up freezing could be commonplace.  I wipe everything down from the store, but it's still worth knowing.  Has anyone heard this from a credible source?

I haven’t but it’s good practice to wipe down your items before storing them ..

Agreed.  I never thought bringing in groceries could be such a process lol

No doubt me neither I never thought I’d have to master the art of opening doors with my elbows! 

Spunkie

I agree, it is a process. I get stressed every time I go in to the kitchen. (Today I thought that life isn't even worth living like this.)  Damn, I thought if I left items for days/weeks they'd be okay. Now, I have a new worry about my freezer food. I am debating not refuelling on food or making due with the supplies I have and not getting more perishables. The kid wants some candy. She still thinks only old people die and we'll just have a flu symptoms. 

In January, when I was looking a PPE for our travels, I decided I wouldn't bother getting the adult hazmat suit, as there were none for my kid in child sizes. The best I could have done was get the kid a throwaway rain coat, like that picture, but in child size.

dankind

josevolution said:

bbiggs said:

josevolution said:

bbiggs said:

A friend of mine claims that he heard on the news that if you freeze something with coronavirus on it, that it can live for up to two years.  I have not seen or heard anything that lends to the legitimacy of this.  This could be important because with many of us trying to avoid going to the grocery store often, stocking up on foods that you may end up freezing could be commonplace.  I wipe everything down from the store, but it's still worth knowing.  Has anyone heard this from a credible source?

I haven’t but it’s good practice to wipe down your items before storing them ..

Agreed.  I never thought bringing in groceries could be such a process lol

No doubt me neither I never thought I’d have to master the art of opening doors with my elbows! 

I can't live my life that way. If I die because I didn't wipe down my Pop Tarts, then I guess I'll just have to die because I didn't wipe down my Pop Tarts.

F Me In The Brain

rgambs said:

Thank you for giving us this day our daily Giesecke.

Hahahaha.  

bbiggs

josevolution said:

bbiggs said:

josevolution said:

bbiggs said:

A friend of mine claims that he heard on the news that if you freeze something with coronavirus on it, that it can live for up to two years.  I have not seen or heard anything that lends to the legitimacy of this.  This could be important because with many of us trying to avoid going to the grocery store often, stocking up on foods that you may end up freezing could be commonplace.  I wipe everything down from the store, but it's still worth knowing.  Has anyone heard this from a credible source?

I haven’t but it’s good practice to wipe down your items before storing them ..

Agreed.  I never thought bringing in groceries could be such a process lol

No doubt me neither I never thought I’d have to master the art of opening doors with my elbows! 

Haha!  Isn't that the truth.  My wife looks at me like I'm crazy because I use my elbows to turn on/off lights and turn on/off water.  That or the backs of my hands.  How the hell did we end up here?

Spiritual_Chaos

Even inside your home?

I wash my hands when I get home. And then I just live like normal IN MY PALACE.

Malroth

Thanks to those of you that had input on shutting things down for a while.

I have the next three days off (does anybody remember why)to figure some things out.

brianlux

Malroth said:

Thanks to those of you that had input on shutting things down for a while.

I have the next three days off (does anybody remember why)to figure some things out.

I remember what you posted.  How's your elderly boss doing?

Good idea to take some time to make decisions.  Best wishes with whatever you decide.  Meanwhile, stay safe.  Same for everybody here!

Spiritual_Chaos

https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1245467940390133760?s=20

bbiggs

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Even inside your home?

I wash my hands when I get home. And then I just live like normal IN MY PALACE.

The only place I go is my home lol.  I'm somewhat exaggerating the elbow usage, but I have done it from time to time.

Spiritual_Chaos

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1245477781754064906?s=20

https://youtu.be/dZLfasMPOU4