27% herd immunity in NY with 2.7million positive tests for antibodies. Extrapolated globally thats over 2 billion Rona cases. This thing is 99.999% harmless. Lets fucking get shit open. This is the dumbest shit ever.
Wrong. You often need >50% immunity in the population for herd immunity. For SARS-2 that threshold may be as high as ~80%, a larger number than was even projected to get the virus at one point.
27% herd immunity in NY with 2.7million positive tests for antibodies. Extrapolated globally thats over 2 billion Rona cases. This thing is 99.999% harmless. Lets fucking get shit open. This is the dumbest shit ever.
15,740 dead in New York State. So fucking dumb.
The downfall of western civilization vs. 50,000 deaths. Seems legit. GO on though. Talk about how important everyone is in the scheme of human history.
Cool. I volunteer you.
PS - You don't post much, but you could post less.
You know the only way to get herd immunity is to leave your fucking house? Me leaving my house along with thousands of others won't cut it. They need to open it up. Those who are afraid can stay home. Free will. It's a big thing in America.
Returning to your last point, if I can be pedantic for a moment (and far be it from me to miss an opportunity for that), I think you’re using the phrase “free will” incorrectly. Philosophers and religious scholars have debated the concepts of free will vs predetermination for centuries, and while the issue is not yet settled, one thing that people do agree on is that if free will exists then all humans have it. Not just Americans.
I think the concept you’re reaching for is more like “legally protected rights”, which of course come with responsibilities.
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People are not literal enough with the word "ignorant." It's often not an insult but an observation.
I don't watch CNN or care to start watching it now, but it sounds like perhaps Anderson Cooper meant it quite literally and that the internet took it as an insult on the mayor.
I don't care enough to watch even 10 seconds of Anderson Cooper to clarify this, but for those of you who do watch, maybe bear in mind the literal meaning of the word ignorant before getting it twisted.
I think maybe I started this Anderson Cooper thing. It was an EXAMPLE in response to someone else's point that the media is out of control.
My concern is way larger than the "both side-ism" people like to engage in. I'm concerned that our democracy depends upon a responsibly functioning free press, and it's totally out of control. This is what I care about when I choose my news sources, courtesy of the late Jim Lehrer, one of the best role models out there (may he RIP). I've bolded the ones especially pertinent to some of the responses I've received to the AC 360 example I gave:
Jim Lehrer's Rules for Journalism
Do nothing I cannot defend.
Cover, write and present every story with the care I would want if the story were about me.
Assume there is at least one other side or version to every story.
Assume the viewer is as smart and as caring and as good a person as I am. Assume the same about all people on whom I report.
Assume personal lives are a private matter until a legitimate turn in the story absolutely mandates otherwise.
Carefully separate opinion and analysis from straight news stories, and clearly label everything.
Do not use anonymous sources or blind quotes except on rare and monumental occasions. No one should be able to attack another anonymously.
Finally, I am not in the entertainment business.
I'm not sure all of those rules necessarily apply to AC360 and the like -- they don't purport to be straight news shows.
I was just thinking, while momentarily doing something else, that this forum actually is just a different form of what we see on the networks. Shifting attention spans, gotcha moments, using memes and soundbites to narrow ideas...
Religious nut/one of the biggest farmers in Illinois/IL state senator, from my podunk hometown just filed suit against Pritzker to open up southern IL. It’s clear restrictions could be adjusted but this guys just a total bonehead. About as stereotypical republican as you can imagine.
I just watched the video of the Idaho woman who was arrested for "taking her kids to a playground" She was being ridiculous. Kept blathering about the Constitution and blah blah blah. They recorded it and uploaded it thinking it makes the police look bad but it really doesn't. They were patient and understanding and she pushed until they had enough. Then she insisted she be arrested, and acted shocked when they obliged her lol
Folks, we're in the second month of this as a full-on crisis. I don't think this guy has the slightest clue what's going on, and doesn't care to find out.
Folks, we're in the second month of this as a full-on crisis. I don't think this guy has the slightest clue what's going on, and doesn't care to find out.
Clearly she’s thinking, “WTF, I spent my whole life, dedicated my career, my life, my reputation, to have it end like this, for this dumb, POS. My god, what have I done, how did it end this way for me, what was I thinking, will I ever be forgiven, still loved?”
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Folks, we're in the second month of this as a full-on crisis. I don't think this guy has the slightest clue what's going on, and doesn't care to find out.
Clearly she’s thinking, “WTF, I spent my whole life, dedicated my career, my life, my reputation, to have it end like this, for this dumb, POS. My god, what have I done, how did it end this way for me, what was I thinking, will I ever be forgiven, still loved?”
Remember too this is the shit he says in public, imagine what meetings are like. It’s beyond bizarre and crazy
Folks, we're in the second month of this as a full-on crisis. I don't think this guy has the slightest clue what's going on, and doesn't care to find out.
Clearly she’s thinking, “WTF, I spent my whole life, dedicated my career, my life, my reputation, to have it end like this, for this dumb, POS. My god, what have I done, how did it end this way for me, what was I thinking, will I ever be forgiven, still loved?”
Remember too this is the shit he says in public, imagine what meetings are like. It’s beyond bizarre and crazy
His acting Director of the FDA wouldn’t come out and straight up condemn what Team Trump Treason said at the podium about injecting disinfectant or using light to kill the virus. Had at least 8 chances to do so and instead kept saying well, it’s a conversation between a patient and their doctor or a variation of that. Have these “experts” been threatened with GITMO or sign some legal document where they can’t publicly refute the very stable genius? It’s fucking bizarre.
Folks, we're in the second month of this as a full-on crisis. I don't think this guy has the slightest clue what's going on, and doesn't care to find out.
Clearly she’s thinking, “WTF, I spent my whole life, dedicated my career, my life, my reputation, to have it end like this, for this dumb, POS. My god, what have I done, how did it end this way for me, what was I thinking, will I ever be forgiven, still loved?”
Remember too this is the shit he says in public, imagine what meetings are like. It’s beyond bizarre and crazy
His acting Director of the FDA wouldn’t come out and straight up condemn what Team Trump Treason said at the podium about injecting disinfectant or using light to kill the virus. Had at least 8 chances to do so and instead kept saying well, it’s a conversation between a patient and their doctor or a variation of that. Have these “experts” been threatened with GITMO or sign some legal document where they can’t publicly refute the very stable genius? It’s fucking bizarre.
They're all in danger of being sacked in the night if they hurt Trump's feelings. A lot of people work in these roles because they legitimately want to serve, and you can't do that if you get fired. I can't imagine trying to toe that line in the midst of a 100-year crisis.
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Former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke again praises the Swedish Corona line.
In an interview with German Bild, he says that "the difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now."
Johan Giesecke, former state epidemiologist and current WHO adviser, participated in a large interview this weekend with British UnHerd.
He highlighted the Swedish path as more science-based, and that Britain did the same - before Prime Minister Boris Johnson made "a 180-degree turn".
Now the former state epidemiologist is being interviewed by the German tabloid Bild. He says there is no scientific evidence that "lockdowns" have an actual effect.
- People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
- The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.
Giesecke says that there have been exaggerated forecasts of death rates and places of care, and that most EU countries have adequate healthcare capacity.
- Our healthcare system has not collapsed and will not collapse, says Giesecke.
Instead, the former state epidemiologist believes that death rates between different countries can only be compared in a couple of years, and that deaths will increase in countries that have had severe restrictions and in different ways open up.
- The only difference with Sweden is that the deaths in these countries will occur later, after they have eased their measures.
In the interview with British UnHerd, Giesecke resembled the corona eruption with a tsunami that swept across Europe, and that countries will need to test different paths when it comes time to ease restrictions. If an eased action leads to more deaths, it is withdrawn. Then one must test another route until restrictions can be lifted without death. In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says.
- People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
- The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now. money over humans??
First, Giesecke is not a spokesperson for the swedish Public Health Agency.
Second, "destroying economy" from a public health perspective is not about money, it's about humans.
The holistic approach to public health.
Notice the last part: " In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says." - if that is the perception, then wrecking the economy and all that comes with that could be a measure to not take.
" In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says." that is tottaly wrong..do you think at the end of this for example, Italy will be at the same level with my country??.. i'm not working for 40 days and i know very well the economy impact..
No I do not.
Okey, 40 days. Add a few years, and then lets see where different Europeans countries stand in relations to how they combated the virus.
People dying NOW..
Sounds to me like you are not taking in what Giesecke is saying.
Really don't care about what this guy said..it's your country and your people are dying..2021 deaths in Sweden.. take care my friend and stay safe..
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Folks, we're in the second month of this as a full-on crisis. I don't think this guy has the slightest clue what's going on, and doesn't care to find out.
Clearly she’s thinking, “WTF, I spent my whole life, dedicated my career, my life, my reputation, to have it end like this, for this dumb, POS. My god, what have I done, how did it end this way for me, what was I thinking, will I ever be forgiven, still loved?”
Remember too this is the shit he says in public, imagine what meetings are like. It’s beyond bizarre and crazy
His acting Director of the FDA wouldn’t come out and straight up condemn what Team Trump Treason said at the podium about injecting disinfectant or using light to kill the virus. Had at least 8 chances to do so and instead kept saying well, it’s a conversation between a patient and their doctor or a variation of that. Have these “experts” been threatened with GITMO or sign some legal document where they can’t publicly refute the very stable genius? It’s fucking bizarre.
They're all in danger of being sacked in the night if they hurt Trump's feelings. A lot of people work in these roles because they legitimately want to serve, and you can't do that if you get fired. I can't imagine trying to toe that line in the midst of a 100-year crisis.
I hope Trump lives long enough after his term for people to write their books about how collosally (is that how you spell that? Is it even a real word? Im not awake yet lol) stupid he is behind closed doors.
The unfortunate thing is that one of his followers will actually try to inject it into his or her body.
Some will say "The fortunate thing is that more of his followers will actually try to inject it into there bodies..."
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She was being ridiculous. Kept blathering about the Constitution and blah blah blah. They recorded it and uploaded it thinking it makes the police look bad but it really doesn't. They were patient and understanding and she pushed until they had enough. Then she insisted she be arrested, and acted shocked when they obliged her lol
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he also asked the doctors to investigate use of ultraviolet light to be shined in the body through the ear, or the mouth, or somewhere else.
how long until someone shows up in the ER with an ultraviolet light stuck in their cornhole?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Yeah, I thought it had to be a spoof. Nope. He said it. The man has become totally unhinged.
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How can people support Trump?
Like the crazy uncle at holidays who drinks too much.....
Except he doesn't drink.
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Maybe instead he shoots up disinfectant?
We're doomed.
Time to inject disinfection to stay safe.
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Sounds to me like you are not taking in what Giesecke is saying. Really don't care about what this guy said..it's your country and your people are dying..2021 deaths in Sweden..
take care my friend and stay safe..
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14