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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,889
    As long as I have my job I don’t need the $, and I’m not getting it.  But I HATE the idea of sending checks to everyone. Many don’t need it. The person in NYC gets the same as the person in Montana don’t they?

    seem it would be better to work with businesses to guarantee and pay a certain % of the pay, etc to the employees to keep them on the payroll despite not working. And then shore up the systems we already have in place to move faster and provide more short term benefits.



    Pretty sure that is what they just said in the conference..and loans will be forgiven as long as kept as employeess
    Right, then why send checks to 90% of the country? 
    Fiscal multiplier. 

    They want the money to circulate in the economy. Due to this crisis and people staying home, spending is curtailed, even with those who are still employed. 

    Unemployment insurance is estimated to have a multiplier effect of 1.64. Stimulus spending would be somewhat lower, but probably still greater than 1.00



    https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fiscal-multiplier.asp
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,614
    cutz said:
    Man, I feel for you^^^ jose^^^ and NY at this time.


    It’s a fucked up situation , Elmhurst hospital which is only a few mikes from the hospital I work in had 13 deaths yesterday this is just the beginning of the darkness to come over this whole state! My wife who’s at home will start to look at rentals way upstate if shit gets really really bad we’re thinking of packing up and just moving up to the mountains for a few months..

    You are a warrior man. That’s what I called the excellent nurses who cared for my daughter last week. Hang tough, JE.
    No I’m no warrior my wife is she’s a nurse today she had to go and do an examination on a rape case she has to go directly into the fire into an ER to examine the rape victims yes women are still getting raped even in these times it’s unreal , I’m fried not sure how long our minds & nerves can take the pressure..

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  • RYME
    RYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    On the other hand I totally get this social distanceing in idea.   A humorous thing occurred at gas station when I was fulling up my semi truck.
    There was a dude ahead of us in the line, he was buying scratch-off tickets & he cannot decide how many he wants. (a middle-aged sloppy dude) So one more, one more, one more.... & so all of the patrons and all of the employees are social distancing from each other 6 feet or more and then this guy buying  lotto tickets goes ACHOOOO!!!  all over the counter.  He had no idea why people were all basically saying
    Judas Priest dude!!!!!  Go home.
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Fuck him let him go and volunteer at one of the hospitals put your money where your mouth is asshole , I’m sorry but I despise 99.9% of Republicans staring with asshole #1 you know the one who wants to just start up everything because the economy dictates it fuck you and your whole party I take it bake I despise every Republican..
    I thought it was idiotic when I heard heard about this comment. I finally just watched the clip. And I don’t think that’s what he was actually saying. I don’t think he did a good job of talking about it. But I think he was just saying destroying the economy is going to have a bigger impact and seniors can worry about themselves. He didn’t say reopen the economy today and let seniors die. He said if it’s closed more than 3 months we may have irreparable damage to the economy. I agree with that. And that Seniors can take care of themselves. I wouldn’t have phrased it that way, but I also agree. Many stores already have senior hours before they open. 
    I would say before we destroy our economy and create more harm, the economy should reopen. And those who are high risk, including seniors and those with immuno diseases, should continue to self quarantine and utilize things like senior shopping hours. Because at some point destroying the economy will destroy lives too, we need to get back to more of a normal before we get to that point. That doesn’t mean just sacrifice seniors.
    Listening to his entire segment that’s what my take was on it anyway. 
    Yep.  There’s really no need to come onto this part of the forum anymore.  Its become as sad as Facebook unfortunately.  It’s daily misinformation about everything from moronic fish tank cleaner eating people blaming trump to a Lt gov that no one cares about anyway being misconstrued for hysteria and headline purposes, to made up dossiers used by our govt to spy on folks to dismissed with prejudice Russian mueller indictments that we paid for- all acceptable as long as it’s orange guy bad.  

    Counting cheeto’s lies is always acceptable for the day’s outrage, as long as no one cares to count the lies on the other side.  “News” outlets aren’t even bothering to redact or update articles anymore once they’ve been proven wrong via twitter or other means.  There’s lawsuits abound against these publications and “news” sites, as they clamor to put to paper anything and everything relating to sir orange.

    Every time I make the mistake of coming on here I read so many misconceptions and things that have already been fact checked as false it’s truly sad.  We still have one dude talking about pee tapes as if they weren’t already established as some perverts fairy tale.  Folks are so infatuated with everything trump that they just can’t stop talking about him.  His name comes out of some folks’ mouths dozens of times a day... while their houses remain a mess.  

    Life isn’t this hard.  Stop creating difficulty for others when there's simply  no reason to do so.  Be kind.

    I was never baptized and am not a religious person in any way, but damn people, just get your houses in order.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,217
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Fuck him let him go and volunteer at one of the hospitals put your money where your mouth is asshole , I’m sorry but I despise 99.9% of Republicans staring with asshole #1 you know the one who wants to just start up everything because the economy dictates it fuck you and your whole party I take it bake I despise every Republican..
    I thought it was idiotic when I heard heard about this comment. I finally just watched the clip. And I don’t think that’s what he was actually saying. I don’t think he did a good job of talking about it. But I think he was just saying destroying the economy is going to have a bigger impact and seniors can worry about themselves. He didn’t say reopen the economy today and let seniors die. He said if it’s closed more than 3 months we may have irreparable damage to the economy. I agree with that. And that Seniors can take care of themselves. I wouldn’t have phrased it that way, but I also agree. Many stores already have senior hours before they open. 
    I would say before we destroy our economy and create more harm, the economy should reopen. And those who are high risk, including seniors and those with immuno diseases, should continue to self quarantine and utilize things like senior shopping hours. Because at some point destroying the economy will destroy lives too, we need to get back to more of a normal before we get to that point. That doesn’t mean just sacrifice seniors.
    Listening to his entire segment that’s what my take was on it anyway. 
    Yep.  There’s really no need to come onto this part of the forum anymore.  Its become as sad as Facebook unfortunately.  It’s daily misinformation about everything from moronic fish tank cleaner eating people blaming trump to a Lt gov that no one cares about anyway being misconstrued for hysteria and headline purposes, to made up dossiers used by our govt to spy on folks to dismissed with prejudice Russian mueller indictments that we paid for- all acceptable as long as it’s orange guy bad.  

    Counting cheeto’s lies is always acceptable for the day’s outrage, as long as no one cares to count the lies on the other side.  “News” outlets aren’t even bothering to redact or update articles anymore once they’ve been proven wrong via twitter or other means.  There’s lawsuits abound against these publications and “news” sites, as they clamor to put to paper anything and everything relating to sir orange.

    Every time I make the mistake of coming on here I read so many misconceptions and things that have already been fact checked as false it’s truly sad.  We still have one dude talking about pee tapes as if they weren’t already established as some perverts fairy tale.  Folks are so infatuated with everything trump that they just can’t stop talking about him.  His name comes out of some folks’ mouths dozens of times a day... while their houses remain a mess.  

    Life isn’t this hard.  Stop creating difficulty for others when there's simply  no reason to do so.  Be kind.

    I was never baptized and am not a religious person in any way, but damn people, just get your houses in order.
    Thanks for the faceturd post. Stellar job.
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  • RunIntoTheRain
    RunIntoTheRain Texas Posts: 1,032
    edited March 2020
    “There’s really no need to come onto this part of the forum anymore.”

    “Every time I make the mistake of coming on here...”

    @RoleModelsinBlood31 and yet here you are
  • Spunkie
    Spunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 7,095
    Holy hell josevolution, I can only imagine. Evertime I read about N.Y. tears swell. I think we can use this space to be kind and supportive to others. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Fuck him let him go and volunteer at one of the hospitals put your money where your mouth is asshole , I’m sorry but I despise 99.9% of Republicans staring with asshole #1 you know the one who wants to just start up everything because the economy dictates it fuck you and your whole party I take it bake I despise every Republican..
    I thought it was idiotic when I heard heard about this comment. I finally just watched the clip. And I don’t think that’s what he was actually saying. I don’t think he did a good job of talking about it. But I think he was just saying destroying the economy is going to have a bigger impact and seniors can worry about themselves. He didn’t say reopen the economy today and let seniors die. He said if it’s closed more than 3 months we may have irreparable damage to the economy. I agree with that. And that Seniors can take care of themselves. I wouldn’t have phrased it that way, but I also agree. Many stores already have senior hours before they open. 
    I would say before we destroy our economy and create more harm, the economy should reopen. And those who are high risk, including seniors and those with immuno diseases, should continue to self quarantine and utilize things like senior shopping hours. Because at some point destroying the economy will destroy lives too, we need to get back to more of a normal before we get to that point. That doesn’t mean just sacrifice seniors.
    Listening to his entire segment that’s what my take was on it anyway. 
    Yep.  There’s really no need to come onto this part of the forum anymore.  Its become as sad as Facebook unfortunately.  It’s daily misinformation about everything from moronic fish tank cleaner eating people blaming trump to a Lt gov that no one cares about anyway being misconstrued for hysteria and headline purposes, to made up dossiers used by our govt to spy on folks to dismissed with prejudice Russian mueller indictments that we paid for- all acceptable as long as it’s orange guy bad.  

    Counting cheeto’s lies is always acceptable for the day’s outrage, as long as no one cares to count the lies on the other side.  “News” outlets aren’t even bothering to redact or update articles anymore once they’ve been proven wrong via twitter or other means.  There’s lawsuits abound against these publications and “news” sites, as they clamor to put to paper anything and everything relating to sir orange.

    Every time I make the mistake of coming on here I read so many misconceptions and things that have already been fact checked as false it’s truly sad.  We still have one dude talking about pee tapes as if they weren’t already established as some perverts fairy tale.  Folks are so infatuated with everything trump that they just can’t stop talking about him.  His name comes out of some folks’ mouths dozens of times a day... while their houses remain a mess.  

    Life isn’t this hard.  Stop creating difficulty for others when there's simply  no reason to do so.  Be kind.

    I was never baptized and am not a religious person in any way, but damn people, just get your houses in order.
    hundreds of thousands have died, and all you care about are the news outlets that won't redact things and how much people talk about trump. you can't be for real. 

    i guess you forgot about the obama era, where all the right could talk about was tan suits and bare arms. 

    cheetos lies have literally, LITERALLY, cost people their fucking lives. do you get that?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Ha.  It's funny though.  Even his "fuck you" when he was pulling away,  to the car behind him,  was polite compared to the States  
  • Ledbetterman10
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    Well this is nice. During this quarantine time, my cable company is giving everyone HBO and all the other pay channels for free. 
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    edited March 2020
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Fuck him let him go and volunteer at one of the hospitals put your money where your mouth is asshole , I’m sorry but I despise 99.9% of Republicans staring with asshole #1 you know the one who wants to just start up everything because the economy dictates it fuck you and your whole party I take it bake I despise every Republican..
    I thought it was idiotic when I heard heard about this comment. I finally just watched the clip. And I don’t think that’s what he was actually saying. I don’t think he did a good job of talking about it. But I think he was just saying destroying the economy is going to have a bigger impact and seniors can worry about themselves. He didn’t say reopen the economy today and let seniors die. He said if it’s closed more than 3 months we may have irreparable damage to the economy. I agree with that. And that Seniors can take care of themselves. I wouldn’t have phrased it that way, but I also agree. Many stores already have senior hours before they open. 
    I would say before we destroy our economy and create more harm, the economy should reopen. And those who are high risk, including seniors and those with immuno diseases, should continue to self quarantine and utilize things like senior shopping hours. Because at some point destroying the economy will destroy lives too, we need to get back to more of a normal before we get to that point. That doesn’t mean just sacrifice seniors.
    Listening to his entire segment that’s what my take was on it anyway. 
    Yep.  There’s really no need to come onto this part of the forum anymore.  Its become as sad as Facebook unfortunately.  It’s daily misinformation about everything from moronic fish tank cleaner eating people blaming trump to a Lt gov that no one cares about anyway being misconstrued for hysteria and headline purposes, to made up dossiers used by our govt to spy on folks to dismissed with prejudice Russian mueller indictments that we paid for- all acceptable as long as it’s orange guy bad.  

    Counting cheeto’s lies is always acceptable for the day’s outrage, as long as no one cares to count the lies on the other side.  “News” outlets aren’t even bothering to redact or update articles anymore once they’ve been proven wrong via twitter or other means.  There’s lawsuits abound against these publications and “news” sites, as they clamor to put to paper anything and everything relating to sir orange.

    Every time I make the mistake of coming on here I read so many misconceptions and things that have already been fact checked as false it’s truly sad.  We still have one dude talking about pee tapes as if they weren’t already established as some perverts fairy tale.  Folks are so infatuated with everything trump that they just can’t stop talking about him.  His name comes out of some folks’ mouths dozens of times a day... while their houses remain a mess.  

    Life isn’t this hard.  Stop creating difficulty for others when there's simply  no reason to do so.  Be kind.

    I was never baptized and am not a religious person in any way, but damn people, just get your houses in order.
    hundreds of thousands have died, and all you care about are the news outlets that won't redact things and how much people talk about trump. you can't be for real. 

    i guess you forgot about the obama era, where all the right could talk about was tan suits and bare arms. 

    cheetos lies have literally, LITERALLY, cost people their fucking lives. do you get that?
    Hundreds of thousands?

    Seriously, nobody should be defending any of these fuckfaces. it’s seriously embarrassing, the whole climate.


    Post edited by DewieCox on
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    Well this is nice. During this quarantine time, my cable company is giving everyone HBO and all the other pay channels for free. 
    Skinemax?
  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    edited March 2020
    The US can get all sorts of military equipment around the world in a matter of hours, build outposts in the middle of the desert on the other side of the earth in a matter of days........but we can't get PPD's to hospitals in our own country. 

    Trillions spent on Defense and Homeland Security since 9/11...... Feel Safer? 
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  • rhanishane
    rhanishane NSW Australia Posts: 505
    edited March 2020
    Sydney international airport crammed with people flying in from overseas 🙄 wtf we are doomed. And 12 cruise ships lined up waiting to dock I'm sure they'll let them in to 
    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-26/coronavirus-fears-at-sydney-airport-after-video-shows-long-lines/12092796?pfmredir=sm&sf231956629=1&utm_medium=spredfast&utm_content=sf231956629&utm_campaign=abc_news&utm_source=m.facebook.com
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  • rhanishane
    rhanishane NSW Australia Posts: 505
    bbiggs said:
    Reading some of the stories coming out of New York. It is a very scary situation there.  The hospitals are starting to see what Italy has been seeing. This write up had a doctor explaining that she had to do chest compressions on 3 people; one in 80’s, one in 60’s and a 38 year old. All died from cardiac arrest. I wonder what it is that is causing cardiac arrest in some patients, being that it is a respiratory disease. Does the lack of oxygen have the potential to bring on cardiac arrest? https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-03-26/how-the-coronavirus-can-cause-serious-illness/12066396?utm_medium=spredfast&utm_content=sf231951507&utm_campaign=abc_news&utm_source=m.facebook.com&sf231951507=1#lightbox-content-lightbox-7
  • rhanishane
    rhanishane NSW Australia Posts: 505
    bbiggs said:
    Reading some of the stories coming out of New York. It is a very scary situation there.  The hospitals are starting to see what Italy has been seeing. This write up had a doctor explaining that she had to do chest compressions on 3 people; one in 80’s, one in 60’s and a 38 year old. All died from cardiac arrest. I wonder what it is that is causing cardiac arrest in some patients, being that it is a respiratory disease. Does the lack of oxygen have the potential to bring on cardiac arrest? https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2020-03-26/how-the-coronavirus-can-cause-serious-illness/12066396?utm_medium=spredfast&utm_content=sf231951507&utm_campaign=abc_news&utm_source=m.facebook.com&sf231951507=1#lightbox-content-lightbox-7
    Sorry it posted on your comment haha bit yes it causes cardiac arrest I read this today
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662

    It's hard to say what's real info and what's not.  This seems very real to me.  Osterholm is brilliant.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/21/facing-covid-19-reality-national-lockdown-is-no-cure/

    "We are in uncharted territory. But the best alternative will probably entail letting those at low risk for serious disease continue to work, keep business and manufacturing operating, and “run” society, while at the same time advising higher-risk individuals to protect themselves through physical distancing and ramping up our health-care capacity as aggressively as possible. With this battle plan, we could gradually build up immunity without destroying the financial structure on which our lives are based.

    Very soon, we may have to acknowledge that attempting to stretch out cases in the hopes of keeping the curve reasonably flat is unworkable. Then, as we wait for either our scientific or natural redeemer to come, we can start trying to put things as back to normal as we can — doing our best to protect those at high risk, but acknowledging that people will get sick, some will die, and our health-care system is going to be overrun to a great extent no matter what we do.

    There is no black-or-white option here. We will have to figure out what shade of gray we can accept and apply. We will get through this, but hard and painful choices are inescapable."






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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:

    Fuck him let him go and volunteer at one of the hospitals put your money where your mouth is asshole , I’m sorry but I despise 99.9% of Republicans staring with asshole #1 you know the one who wants to just start up everything because the economy dictates it fuck you and your whole party I take it bake I despise every Republican..
    I thought it was idiotic when I heard heard about this comment. I finally just watched the clip. And I don’t think that’s what he was actually saying. I don’t think he did a good job of talking about it. But I think he was just saying destroying the economy is going to have a bigger impact and seniors can worry about themselves. He didn’t say reopen the economy today and let seniors die. He said if it’s closed more than 3 months we may have irreparable damage to the economy. I agree with that. And that Seniors can take care of themselves. I wouldn’t have phrased it that way, but I also agree. Many stores already have senior hours before they open. 
    I would say before we destroy our economy and create more harm, the economy should reopen. And those who are high risk, including seniors and those with immuno diseases, should continue to self quarantine and utilize things like senior shopping hours. Because at some point destroying the economy will destroy lives too, we need to get back to more of a normal before we get to that point. That doesn’t mean just sacrifice seniors.
    Listening to his entire segment that’s what my take was on it anyway. 
    Yep.  There’s really no need to come onto this part of the forum anymore.  Its become as sad as Facebook unfortunately.  It’s daily misinformation about everything from moronic fish tank cleaner eating people blaming trump to a Lt gov that no one cares about anyway being misconstrued for hysteria and headline purposes, to made up dossiers used by our govt to spy on folks to dismissed with prejudice Russian mueller indictments that we paid for- all acceptable as long as it’s orange guy bad.  

    Counting cheeto’s lies is always acceptable for the day’s outrage, as long as no one cares to count the lies on the other side.  “News” outlets aren’t even bothering to redact or update articles anymore once they’ve been proven wrong via twitter or other means.  There’s lawsuits abound against these publications and “news” sites, as they clamor to put to paper anything and everything relating to sir orange.

    Every time I make the mistake of coming on here I read so many misconceptions and things that have already been fact checked as false it’s truly sad.  We still have one dude talking about pee tapes as if they weren’t already established as some perverts fairy tale.  Folks are so infatuated with everything trump that they just can’t stop talking about him.  His name comes out of some folks’ mouths dozens of times a day... while their houses remain a mess.  

    Life isn’t this hard.  Stop creating difficulty for others when there's simply  no reason to do so.  Be kind.

    I was never baptized and am not a religious person in any way, but damn people, just get your houses in order.
    hundreds of thousands have died, and all you care about are the news outlets that won't redact things and how much people talk about trump. you can't be for real. 

    i guess you forgot about the obama era, where all the right could talk about was tan suits and bare arms. 

    cheetos lies have literally, LITERALLY, cost people their fucking lives. do you get that?
    ??? Are you sure?

    more have died from the flu than will die from this virus.  


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