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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    Thinking about our farmers this morning.

    https://www.fb.org/newsroom/farm-bureau-highlights-immediate-challenges-facing-the-agriculture-sec3

  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    I am pissed at China and I hope in the future they have better health codes/some sort of enforcement/rules for these wet markets.  I am pissed at the US government because they definitely dropped the ball. I'm even more pissed at the morons who are still not taking this seriously.  I'm pissed at the idiots who buy 258 rolls of toilet paper.  And finally I'm pissed off that I am not in quebec city right now.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    A supermarket here in Sweden put up a sign "One package of toiletpaper - regular price. The second package 100 SEK (Like 11-12 dollars that is)" to stop the people buying it all up.

    Pretty smart.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    mcgruff10 said:
    I am pissed at China and I hope in the future they have better health codes/some sort of enforcement/rules for these wet markets. 
    Focusing on just China and their wet markets, and not see the bigger picture of the overall meat consumption culture (and our civilizations reckless relationship to animals) is so unnecessary shortsighted. But I guess it stems from people not wanting to change themselves, and it is easier to just attack those, over there on the other side of the world.

    https://youtu.be/G20cooZOiYE

    The key cause for emerging "plagues" - number one (1, as in the first) on that list:




    Also: 


    https://www.dagensarena.se/opinion/din-middag-ar-varre-an-corona/
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    edited March 2020
    As in, STOP EATING MEAT = STOP EMERGING VIRUS PANDEMICS


    lowest common denominator
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I am pissed at China and I hope in the future they have better health codes/some sort of enforcement/rules for these wet markets. 
    Focusing on just China and their wet markets, and not see the bigger picture of the overall meat consumption culture (and our civilizations reckless relationship to animals) is so unnecessary shortsighted. But I guess it stems from people not wanting to change themselves, and it is easier to just attack those, over there on the other side of the world.

    https://youtu.be/G20cooZOiYE

    The key cause for emerging "plagues" - number one (1, as in the first) on that list:




    Also: 


    https://www.dagensarena.se/opinion/din-middag-ar-varre-an-corona/
    Who is attacking? It is short sighted to want change in those wet markets? You really are a moron. Please stop responding to my posts.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    edited March 2020
    That’s not really what that says.



    How can someone say “don’t blame China” and “blame Trump” in the same sentence?
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    mcgruff10 said:

    You really are a moron.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    DewieCox said:
    That’s not really what that says.



    How can someone say “don’t blame China” and “blame Trump” in the same sentence?
    Blame Trump for not taking his briefings seriously in Jan and Feb about the risks, and downplaying it to the American people.  It's not Trump's fault that the virus is here, but he shoulders blame for the slow response, lack of preparedness, and overall lack of leadership.  We don't have control as to whether the wet markets in China are closed down.  We do have control regarding who will be president come 2021.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    mrussel1 said:
    DewieCox said:
    That’s not really what that says.



    How can someone say “don’t blame China” and “blame Trump” in the same sentence?
    Blame Trump for not taking his briefings seriously in Jan and Feb about the risks, and downplaying it to the American people.  It's not Trump's fault that the virus is here, but he shoulders blame for the slow response, lack of preparedness, and overall lack of leadership.  We don't have control as to whether the wet markets in China are closed down.  We do have control regarding who will be president come 2021.

    He is not prioritizing the federal govt resources in emergency assistance for medical supplies and ventilators, and seemed indifferent about price gouging. Yesterday. 

    Why are we not talking about the 25th amendment?


  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I am pissed at China and I hope in the future they have better health codes/some sort of enforcement/rules for these wet markets. 
    Focusing on just China and their wet markets, and not see the bigger picture of the overall meat consumption culture (and our civilizations reckless relationship to animals) is so unnecessary shortsighted. But I guess it stems from people not wanting to change themselves, and it is easier to just attack those, over there on the other side of the world.

    https://youtu.be/G20cooZOiYE

    The key cause for emerging "plagues" - number one (1, as in the first) on that list:




    Also: 


    https://www.dagensarena.se/opinion/din-middag-ar-varre-an-corona/
    Who is attacking? It is short sighted to want change in those wet markets? You really are a moron. Please stop responding to my posts.  
    Ignoring the source is really dumb. Using a pandemic to spread your cause, really ignorant.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    DewieCox said:
    That’s not really what that says.



    How can someone say “don’t blame China” and “blame Trump” in the same sentence?
    And plenty of time once this is done.

    But certainly China is to blame for lighting the match. And trump admin is to blame for watching it burn.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    cincybearcat said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I am pissed at China and I hope in the future they have better health codes/some sort of enforcement/rules for these wet markets. 
    Focusing on just China and their wet markets, and not see the bigger picture of the overall meat consumption culture (and our civilizations reckless relationship to animals) is so unnecessary shortsighted. But I guess it stems from people not wanting to change themselves, and it is easier to just attack those, over there on the other side of the world.

    https://youtu.be/G20cooZOiYE

    The key cause for emerging "plagues" - number one (1, as in the first) on that list:




    Also: 


    https://www.dagensarena.se/opinion/din-middag-ar-varre-an-corona/
    Who is attacking? It is short sighted to want change in those wet markets? You really are a moron. Please stop responding to my posts.  
    Ignoring the source is really dumb. Using a pandemic to spread your cause, really ignorant.
    Thank god someone else sees this. I just can’t argue with stupid anymore. 
    Lers, why would the 25th amendment be used in this case?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    mcgruff10 said:
    I am pissed at China and I hope in the future they have better health codes/some sort of enforcement/rules for these wet markets.  I am pissed at the US government because they definitely dropped the ball. I'm even more pissed at the morons who are still not taking this seriously.  I'm pissed at the idiots who buy 258 rolls of toilet paper.  And finally I'm pissed off that I am not in quebec city right now.  


    During elections and at other times, republicans make fun of regulations. They and their voters tout making stuff “cheap in China.” This is not the first disease that China has gifted the world. How cheap is all that Chinese product now?

    this election needs to put that entire thought process on trial. Regulations are not funny. Poor regulations can kill millions. 

    Buying stuff cheap from China? Sometimes we get what we pay for.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,860
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I am pissed at China and I hope in the future they have better health codes/some sort of enforcement/rules for these wet markets. 
    Focusing on just China and their wet markets, and not see the bigger picture of the overall meat consumption culture (and our civilizations reckless relationship to animals) is so unnecessary shortsighted. But I guess it stems from people not wanting to change themselves, and it is easier to just attack those, over there on the other side of the world.

    https://youtu.be/G20cooZOiYE

    The key cause for emerging "plagues" - number one (1, as in the first) on that list:




    Also: 


    https://www.dagensarena.se/opinion/din-middag-ar-varre-an-corona/


    Cmon sc... that’s really not necessary-

    “sometimes raw fruits and vegetables contain harmful germs that can make you and your family sick, such as Salmonella , E. coli, and Listeria, CDC estimates that germs on fresh produce cause a large percentage of U.S. foodborne illnesses.”
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    edited March 2020
    cincybearcat said:

    Using a pandemic to spread your cause, really ignorant.
    Pounding the table you are. As Yoda would have put it.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    "It's an extraordinary situation," says Helena Olsson, program commissioner for News and Society at SVT to Expressen.

    - Power holders are usually in situations where it is possible to question, check facts and comment on what is being said. This is an exception to the formats we usually work with in journalism with politicians and other authorities, says Helena Olsson.

    The last SVT sent speech to the nation was in 2003 when Foreign Minister Anna Lindh had been assassinated. Then Göran Persson spoke from his service room in Rosenbad.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,385
    dignin said:
    mickeyrat said:
    speechless.....

    dont be put off by the headline, its really about pharmacists looking to be ethical where as some doctors dont seem to be....


    Thanks for sharing. My mom has Lupus and is on that drug.

    Trump is such a snake oil salesman, doing more damage than good.
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    edited March 2020
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I am pissed at China and I hope in the future they have better health codes/some sort of enforcement/rules for these wet markets. 
    Focusing on just China and their wet markets, and not see the bigger picture of the overall meat consumption culture (and our civilizations reckless relationship to animals) is so unnecessary shortsighted. But I guess it stems from people not wanting to change themselves, and it is easier to just attack those, over there on the other side of the world.

    https://youtu.be/G20cooZOiYE

    The key cause for emerging "plagues" - number one (1, as in the first) on that list:




    Also: 


    https://www.dagensarena.se/opinion/din-middag-ar-varre-an-corona/


    Cmon sc... that’s really not necessary-

    “sometimes raw fruits and vegetables contain harmful germs that can make you and your family sick, such as Salmonella , E. coli, and Listeria, CDC estimates that germs on fresh produce cause a large percentage of U.S. foodborne illnesses.”
    Truth is truth. 

    And it is not about me not putting blame on China, just read the last page on that topic. 

    Seeing the bigger picture is still valid. 

    But maybe only morons are able to do so.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    edited March 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    DewieCox said:
    That’s not really what that says.



    How can someone say “don’t blame China” and “blame Trump” in the same sentence?
    Blame Trump for not taking his briefings seriously in Jan and Feb about the risks, and downplaying it to the American people.  It's not Trump's fault that the virus is here, but he shoulders blame for the slow response, lack of preparedness, and overall lack of leadership.  We don't have control as to whether the wet markets in China are closed down.  We do have control regarding who will be president come 2021.
    Absolutely, I’m not saying blame shouldn’t be assigned, I’m saying it’s as divisive and distractionary regardless of who is blamed. There’s a better time for it and it’s not changing minds.
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